UPDATE: Events overtook this post so the note of optimism no longer holds. I am still publishing it because the points about failed leadership, failed lawmaking strategies and the need to not be frightened into relinquishing our values all still hold. I have also posted a table with the list of yes voters, their home pages and a quick search link for their challengers next month. Throw all of 'em out.
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After the bailout died on Monday there was a chorus of wailing, but its failure meant some very good things. It wasn't the final word of course; a new version could still pass. However, any member switching from "no" is possibly committing political suicide. Those in close races voted against it (via) and retiring GOP members became a focus as the clock wound down. Anyone up for re-election shortly will have a hard time getting out from under a "yes" vote. And November 4th will not be the last you hear of it, either. Some issues, especially if big enough or egregious enough, flare back into public consciousness if given a reason. All that said, an equally bad bailout could still pass. In the spirit of optimism though, I will note the following happy consequences and hope they endure.
It was a rebuke to the people who created the mess. A better Congressional leadership would have told the administration to not submit anything since Henry Paulson is entirely discredited. He is the same gentleman who insisted (via) over and over for the last eighteen months that we have hit the bottom, no bailout is necessary, the damage is contained. Any proposal from him should be presumed to be nonsense. Nouriel Roubini, on the other hand, clearly knows what he is talking about. Why couldn't Pelosi and Reid have told the administration to spare us more heckuva job hackery and consulted with someone who actually appears to have a grasp of the situation? If they had done that, and Roubini turned in the same proposal - verbatim - that Paulson did I would have supported it. (He would not have, though.) It is called credibility. You gain it by being right over time, and lose it by being wrong. There is no reason to believe that any proposal originating in the White House will have even the barest levels of competence. Congressional leaders should have pronounced it dead on arrival when word of it leaked.
It was also a repudiation of the rushed and reactionary approach to legislation. Whether it was for the initial authorization for the Iraq war, or the Protect America Act, or various appropriations, the preferred method is to wait until some deadline is imminent and then charge in. It prevents Congress from going through complex issues in an orderly fashion and it largely cuts the public out of the loop. Laws passed as part of a proper deliberative process with adequate transparency to the public are blessed with the magical power of consensus. It means that even those who disagree with it vehemently do not contest its legitimacy. The bailout bill had all the earmarks of a boondoggle because we were not given the opportunity to scrutinize it and the normal legislative process was being hurried along at a sprint. We should not support such actions even if we agree with the underlying legislation.
Finally, it might give us the opportunity to dispel some fog and give us clarity, even if it is unpleasant. Ron Suskind wrote on page 125 of The Way of the World of a longtime clandestine agent afflicted by "the schizophrenia that comes from chasing ghosts." Our leaders have tried to frighten us over and over in the last eight years with apocalyptic visions, and many of us are tired of it. We no longer want to fear what is around every corner and lurking in every shadow, and we no longer want to jump every time a conniving politician says "boo". Some of us are ready to say, let the dread come; it is better than constantly worrying. If this latest Armageddon really does come to pass and the blind pig finally found an acorn, so be it. Maybe, as the President warns, this sucker really could go down. Speaking as a member of the sucker, Mr. President, I can assure you that we are made of sterner stuff than you suspect. We are stronger and more self-reliant than you seem to give us credit for. We know hard times have already begun and may get worse. We will adapt. If we need to we will carpool or ride bikes, eat out less, stretch the clothes an extra year, maybe plant a garden. We will do what we need to, and perhaps the hardship will have some good effects as well. Maybe we will become more solicitous of those around us, and see our neighbor not as a stranger or a competitor but as our fellow (wo)man. Maybe it will give us a better understanding that, yes, we really are all in this together. Maybe it will make us better people.
I could go on. I want to go on. But I'll leave it at that.
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And for good or ill
The Dems now totally own this one. If it suceeds, good. And if it fails (and many think it well), good too.
[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
thanks for this!
(but fix "opponent" in your table) : >
they all need to be challenged.
Fixed
Thanks for the correction!
(Think I was in a hurry?)
oops--
the opponent links weren't working for me, but now they do--
thanks!
You bet they own it, lambert
I haven't made any secret of my enthusiasm for Obama but this is disgraceful. I'm already hearing about how it'll get fixed later. I'm sure that will happen right after the war crimes trials get underway.
Yeppers!
I think I'm simply farther along the trajectory to complete, er, realism, than you are ;-)
Anyhow, please forgive the occasional love tap, since your postings are, on average ;-) very, very good.
It's been quite a week....
[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
yeah, I fixed that too
Like I said...hurried. See why I normally just do one post per week?
Nice Post
I wish it hadn't been overtaken by events.
I don't know how you fix this since the $700 billion will be gone before January. So whatever comes next, that's $700 billion less to spend on it. That's not something that can be fixed or undone. If they really thought they couldn't get anything decent through and had to do something, they should've given Paulson a fraction of what they did. More importantly, they could've started making the argument for the better action NOW, so that there would be time to build support for the next Administration.
The most depressing thing about this very depressing week is how little Obama or the Dem leadership had to say about future actions. They didn't pass this with specific promises about what else they'd do. They just insisted that this bill be passed. When all you'll commit to is to "study" HOLC, you really haven't committed to anything.
I don't think I've ever been more pessimistic about the next few years. And whether he realizes it yet or not, I have a feeling Obama just tanked his own presidency. Love to be wrong about that and have it merely be constrained by this mess, but I suspect the damage done today was much worse than that. And while I don't like Obama, we really can't afford another failed presidency. Yet, I now fear more than ever that that's what we're going to get. If we're lucky.
"Do what you feel in your heart to be right -- for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. " - Eleanor Roosevelt
"Failed" for who?
The bankers are doing very well out of it!
[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
True
But I'm not sure it's going to be any more sustainable for them in the long run as it has been for the rest of us (or hell most of us never got anything to be sustained). And when it crashes, it's going to be ugly. Even the GOP gave up on trying to restore Herbert Hoover's image. They happily go after FDR, but even they couldn't salvage Hoover. And I fear we're entering Hoover territory for the next President and he hasn't even been sworn in.
The current President is worse than Hoover, IMO. His legacy is, as a friend of mine put it, as if Hoover presided over the Depression while launching the war in Vietnam.
"Do what you feel in your heart to be right -- for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. " - Eleanor Roosevelt
Well yippee skippy
All my guys voted for it (House and Senate) and they all have their seats for life in my one-party state.
I said all along that my main strategic (as opposed to ideological) reason for not voting for Obama was because I didn't want to see the Democrats lose the WH in 2012 and then for the next 2 or 3, or 4 or 5 terms. I was basing that on a probability that just went way higher. What a clusterfrak.
You don’t know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you’ll be awake, you’ll be facing me, and you’ll be armed.
-Malcolm Reynolds, “Serenity”
me too-except 1--but they're all getting old--
most of NYC's Reps (and Schumer too) are in their 60s or older.
Mixed Feelings About My Rep's Yes Vote
He voted no on Monday and changed it today. Can't decided how angry to be with him. On the one hand, it's an awful vote and he knows it (see Monday). On the other, it was clear once the Senate passed the bill that this sucker was a done deal and I'm not sure I want my district to be punished (and those who voted against this do risk punishment).
"Do what you feel in your heart to be right -- for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. " - Eleanor Roosevelt
if it's awful he shouldn't have changed his vote--
what got better for the district since Monday? was anything added as pork for you guys locally?
if not, then he should be punished.
maybe the lobbyists got to him?
".... Republicans and Democrats who voted no on Monday heard from constituents, business lobbyists, the White House and even the presidential candidates. Some who had voted yes were consumed by second thoughts. ..." -- Reconsidering a Critical Vote, Under Intense Pressure -- http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/busine...
My Congressman and One Senator...
voted against this thing. The rep voted against it both times. My other Senator (the most liberal of the three), who is essentially Senator-for-Life, here, voted it for it.
I hope that for our sake danps is right about this. I hope every yes vote leaves each respective Senator and congressperson stained. The war was bad enough, FISA just added insult to injury, and then this leaves me nearly hopeless. I just don't get it. These aren't 'lunatic fringe' issues. If they can't come through with us on these kind of basics, what does anything else matter?
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...