About Mike Ross

lambert's picture

Hey, I'm at least part way there with today's Mike Ross. Open up Medicare, like Ross -- believe it or not -- says he wants to do. That's what Kennedy's original bill did, after all; his bill is the source of the idea to lower Medicare eligibility by five-year increments.

Medicare is simple and proven, so make Medicare for All the starting point. Ross is right about that.

Forget about the pissant public option -- besides being a bailout for the insurance companies, the health exchanges and all the "nudge" programs on healthy lifestyles are just bailouts for IT people and consultants in the "creative" [cough] "class." Not to mention Democratic strategists.

Plus Medicare is already up and running, so it would be easy to understand. None of this nonsense about taking 5 years to do it right (with the insurance companies, the IT people, and the consultants billing by the hour for the whole time).

Now, Ross wants to have the buy in reimbursements for Medicare high.

The last sentence is key: reimbursing providers who treat the new enrollees at market rates (which are, on average, about 20-30% higher than Medicare rates) satisfies the provider community and conservative politicians from rural states who argue that their hospitals would close if they were reimbursed at Medicare rates.

So make your battle beating down the buy-in price. Then you get rid of the insurance companies, instead of building them into the system for the next thirty years, like "progressives" want to do.

Note that all the arguments -- every single one of them -- that public option advocates make for an incremental approach apply with equal force to Ross's Medicare concept. We'll just tilt the playing field over time -- except with Medicare, the field is more favorable to us to start. Heck, I bet Ross's constituents don't even think it's a government program!

UPDATE Hipparchia corrects me on buy-in. It's late, and I don't know where I got that idea; maybe from Politico which also covered it. I still say that if we have to compromise, and get out of "a bad bill is worse than no bill" mode, it makes sense to go with a proven system that we can implement immediately and go full force against the insurance companies, instead of this health exchange crap.

UPDATE I'm guessing Ross's constituents gave him an earful (just like Jello Jay's WV constituents gave him a spine). And since they don't think of Medicare as a government program -- because anything that works can't be a government program -- it's all good!

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hipparchia's picture

sorta, but not quite right

Now, Ross wants to have the buy in for Medicare high.

ross wants medicare to pay doctors and hospitals more than it does right now. which makes some sense where he's coming from, because hospitals in rural areas generally have a harder time of it, money-wise.

this could indirectly affect how much you pay in premiums if you buy in, but he's not asking the public to directly pay higher premiums.

and yes, i'm happy to see him raise this issue too.

lambert's picture

Thanks, my head was spinning too

I don't think we have to worry about motive; why not take it and run with it?

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi

hipparchia's picture

yep, take it and run with it

i'm not worried about his motive, but nancy pelosi is reportedly offering to put higher medicare reimbursement rates for rural hospitals into hr3200 to woo his vote.

but mostly, i didn't want corrente accidentally spreading the idea that mike ross was proposing to charge a high premium for those who want to buy into medicare. that's not what he was saying, but that's what your post made it sound like he was saying.

danps's picture

So who will be the single payer Martha Griffiths

To Ross' Howard W. Smith?

Valley Girl's picture

my head is spinning, so this is FWIW

but this article at "some other site" mentions Ross and B. Clinton in the same breath, or sentence, or....

Is Bill Clinton Raising Money For Mike Ross? UPDATED: Yes

lambert's picture

Cue the CDS!

Yay!

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi

hipparchia's picture

i could forgive bill clinton

for his overly-complicated managed care scheme FAIL of the 90s if he convinced the democrats to make the 'public option' a direct medicare buy-in.

The Scarlet Pimpernel's picture

Well I'll Be Damned! Socialism Is Alive and Well

This from the moron who doesn't want a public option? Has anyone told him yet that what he is proposing is single-payer universal health care just like those commie pinkos in Canada, England, France and Germany? Well, if not, would someone please take away his access to any form of information from the outside world until he can propose this in the House. Then he is sorta embarrassingly stuck with it.

JNH

lambert's picture

Medicare is not a government program

Therefore, it's not socialism.

Remember that.

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi

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