[Slightly updated below]
Kidz, I'm here to give you some harsh news. I was part of this blog before the horserace, I expect to be part of it long afterwards. Lambert is my Brother, and no matter what he says or does, he has my love, and knows that. Same with the rest of the MCB Sr. Fellows, past or present. But I've been on the phone, a lot, lately with higher ups and people in the know, and it's no more or less than I've been saying: it's not up to "us" anymore, and the people in whose hands it is...well, they won't "let her win." As the Princess, the ahead of the curve evil bitch, the sad, sick Edwards supporter of old, and Deaniac before that, I'm telling you. Nah. Gunna. Happen. It's time to deal.
This is the best blog you'll ever read, and not because of me. But because even as I expect some to jump all over my ass for this post, I'm fairly sure that my "different" opinion will be welcomed, and stimulate some minds. Because you all are the best, all of you, even those I think are wrong and clouded and uncritical and the rest. Unlike the rabble, I know you Listen.
At this point, for a long time now, I haven't cared which one is picked. I still don't. And: I could be wrong, very, very and publically wrong. I've tried, for all these long months, to "believe" something different could happen. I no longer believe it can. I won't bore you with why, except to say that smarter and more in the know people in my life are telling me so. I'm going out on a small limb and trusting them, and as much as I don't like it for feminist reasons (you will never convince me she got a fair shake, even as I know for a fact how she fucked it up herself in some ways too), I'm asking you all to Sober Up, Let Go, and Be Real. It's time.
Go Ahead with the remaining WWTSBQ
posts and the like. I'm not offended. I'm annoyed; some of you posting here lately are way below Correntish standards and we've tolerated that, for various reasons. But I'd really like to bring things back up to snuff, which is to say, in and up to Reality World. Even my Divine friends who've been behind her for a long time, have let go. So I ask you, as one who has long argued that a "Black" man will never win the prez race (heh) in this country, what are you going to do when the HrC party is over? It's coming to an end. I know this as one who's thrown many successful parties and knows when it's time to kick out the stumblers. Don't let that be you.
I'd like my balanced blog back, I'm tired of reading about the horserace. Soon, none of what you've put so much effort into will matter. I tried to say this in a "nice" way, months ago, and got ignored. Well, you won't be ignoring me soon. It's over. The moderate, UChicago econ advisor-having, throw the progressive under the bus, guy is going to win. It's not your fault. Don't feel guilty, or sad. As a Deaniac, I'm telling you: I've been there and you can get over it. But, more importantly: you and I both know why it's going to be very rough this fall for BHO. So. It will soon be time to put your $ where your mouth is, and stand up for Kerry, I mean BHO and make a difference. Are you ready? It's time for you to get ready. I'm tellin ya true. In love, and with compassion. Trust me, we've been here before, and this time, I'm really Hoping (heh) we can do better.
But without you, we won't. Are you willing? Or is being Bitter and Right more important to you? Flame away, I can hack it.
and let me stress again: thanks for all your efforts. Most of you here are on the side of Good and Right, and don't think I haven't noticed. FWIW, but more than that. Fighting spirit Always scares the bullies, cronies and cowards. Are you ready to turn that on McShame? I am. Cause he's hardly even that, and is a pathetic, "mature" man who looks so weak and stupid in person, well...let's just go for his jugular now. He needs putting down.
UPDATE: I have to apologize. I sort of started to lose it in the comments last night, and that's all my fault. I'm sorry. Some bullet points:
-I'm not well. Sometimes, it causes me to lose my temper. That's what happens when I'm afraid. I'm sorry and I'll try to control it better.
-Lambert is right. It's up to all of us to make Corrente what it can be. I've just not had the energy to contribute like I used to. I want to, believe me I love writing and arguing and blogging, but it's harder these days, for a lot of reasons.
-I've lost friends over this horserace, and that makes me sad and angry. I don't want to lose any more.
-My motto in politics: Everyone fights; no one quits. If you do, I'll shoot you myself. Heh, OK, that's not really my motto, but I'm getting more and more frustrated with people who want to "fight" over things that don't make any difference. I believe that this horserace crap has really hurt the blogosphere, and taken away from the power we were "growing." Again, that makes me sad and frustrated.
-On a similar note, I think it's a Sign, that this blog has finally made the cut, and gotten the attention of Mrs. $175m, 6 years of free PR, married to the most popular Dem alive, former front runner. Doesn't that tell you something, that now she's finally reached out to us all? It tells me: desperation. Believe me, some folks couldn't be bothered with us, back when it could've made a difference. This blog was Toxic, and I was proud of that, in the way that contempt for people who won't listen to reason makes one proud.
-This isn't about me. It's about you, and Lambert, and the rest of the fellows. And you. HRC, just like BHO, isn't going to be there for us all When It Matters. Not that she doesn't care (I don't think he does), indeed, I perceive underneath it all a caring, liberal woman of great moment. If she could be Queen of the World, a lot of shit I don't like would get changed, stat. But that's not going to happen. More importantly, there's literally nothing she, or anyone, can do to fix the Shit That's Coming. And it's coming. That is really what I'm trying to hammer home here. Is your support for HRC all these long and painful months going to put gas in your tank, get you a job, or give you health care? No. But here's the thing, the original thing that made me fall in love with the blogosphere in the first place:
We can help each other. I'll talk about that more, in future posts. Because again, It's Time.
-I'm very proud of HRC not giving up. Let me stress that. Fuck the SCLM, you Go Grrl! Don't quit. I'm just trying to speak of the future, and what comes after. You blew it with your war vote, and you should've run in 04, when that choice could've helped you. Just sayin.
-Rather than get angry, as I woke up and headed towards, let me back down and remind everyone: this year is the year to truly and significantly Elect More and Better Democrats. Really, our chances are pretty good. Also, BHO isn't going to be able to control his hoardes. They are way more liberal and progressive than he is, and it'll be funny/sad/amusing to see him come back to them, hat in hand, when his moderate and Republican and warmonger and UChicago friends drop him like a hot plate. Assuming he can beat McStain. Which I'm not at all sure he can.
-Corrente means a lot to me. Can you all, esp you newer people, please try a little harder, in terms of quality, diversity, tone and tenor? This is a special place, and I won't give up on it until I'm dead. I'm showing you all, publically, what Loyalty is all about. I'll tell you true: I've had Offers. From "A List" blogs, from backroom insider types, from People with Power; if I'd been willing to leave/slam publically/detach myself from this place, things could've happened for me, things a lot of bloggers want. I didn't take up any of those offers for a reason, and although that may prove a "stupid" choice, I'm not sorry. I'm going to fight to keep this place the unique, amazing, forward looking, ahead of the curve, honest people's blog it's always been. Are you with me?
-Propaganda works. I've seen it here, all over the blogosphere, across Amurka. It's long past time for the blogging community to realize, the SCLM is designed to make you think and talk and (not) act about this and not that. Blogging is like teevee to me; I know when I blog, I'm not really doing all I can to Make a Difference. Sometimes, blogging really does make a difference. But a lot of the time, most of the time, not so much. But we can change that! Still! Even, each and every day. So let's try. My garden posts are political, I suppose they bore and annoy some of you, but they really are meant to lead, and help people accept What's Coming/Already Here.
-Finally, let's all stop beating up on our friends. We Librul Blogging Types are a family. One big, ugly, drunken, beat down, bitchy family. We're all We've Got. I have really and truly hated the way that some of us have turned on each other, over two people who don't waste a moment's thought about us or our lives except when it suits them, politically. Matt Stoller is not your enemy. Chris Bowers can be an ass, but he's not your enemy either. Even GOS, bless him, isn't really so bad. They are wrong sometimes, bullheaded and sucked into the Village Game, like any of us can and would be sometimes. But Booman, the crew at the Agonist, Pam, Glenn, Duncan...jesus krist these are some of the best people I've ever known. Let go of your anger. Embrace unity. Not "Unity," but the real kind. Agree to disagree. Make up, put up, and shut up. Or, scream more loudly about what you really care about and ignore everything I've said. Either way, the only way to get there is together. Or we'll all hang separately.
Thanks so much for the patience and attention. Love me, hate me, don't think about me. But go over to your right and press that little button so Lambert can keep this place going. Thanks.
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thank you
you said this a thousand times better than I ever could.
also, I hope Leah, xan, and xenathon will come back
Xenophon.
People should be called by their right handles.
Yup. What CD said. Praise the Goddess and pass
the ammunition and can we for chrissakes start aiming it outside the circle of our friends, colleagues, partymates and beloveds?
DCb, thanks for the kind words. I'm back, or will be back, as soon as there sets in a realization that there are things more important than "Hillary winning." Like maybe, "McCain losing."
I remember the days when we used to bare our fangs and rend the flesh of corrupt thieving Republicans. I liked those days and can't wait for them to come again. :)
Er, the date of your last McCain post was....
... when? Just to point out that if that was truly the "more important" than anything else, then you would have been fighting out along that line.
In any case, I welcome your incipient return to an audience double its previous size, if we don't manage to lose them all by insulting the quality of their writing, and a funded server (or at least much better funded).
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
CD, I appreciate where you're coming from
I publicly folded my tent a couple of weeks back only to find that there were still, IMHO, a few fights worth fighting -- especially the disgraceful display of disinformation that captivated the MSM and the leftysphere this weekend.
I will say that "Let Go" is a message that has so often been foully laid upon those who fight the good fight, that it's not an especially welcome construction.
I can't account for why some loyal progressives are absolutely livid about what's gone down in this campaign, and others are still in the "two good candidates" or "two crappy candidates" mode.
At the end of the day, we all have to trust our lyin' eyes.
Do me a favor, if you would. Watch the entire ten minutes-and-change of this Keith Olbermann clip.
Yes, I know, the usual caveats about turning off the TV. But this is what now passes for mainstream progressive thought. Just please watch for ten minutes, and you'll perhaps understand why some of us feel our reality has been befouled just as bad as it was in the run-up to the Iraq War.
I don't disagree with your conclusion about the conclusion of this campaign, and I know I've disappointed some folks here by making that point.
I know we're fucked. But I also know that something's gone horribly wrong in progressiveland, and that while people are pushing back on it, I think they ought to have a little support. It may be quixotic, but it's just. And there are many worse things than that.
What you said
Quoting VastLeft:
Personally, I think that's a task worth taking on once the nomination is decided. Back to the ol' Overton window....
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Well, maybe so
Lost my local guy to Obama last week, he said the same thing, that the bus is pulling out of the station and he didn't want to get left behind. Can't be angry with him, it is his job to know what to do and he's a damn good guy, but still; I was sorry to see him fold.
I have one more moderately rational numbers-based argument for why she ought to be the nominee; hopefully I can still put that up without lowering the standards too much. If I get out of line, you know how to handle it.
Should it actually end up Obama - and August 28 is a long, long ways away - I will do everything I can to help drag his sorry ass over the line; he's going to need all the help he can get, and the alternative is too horrific to contemplate.
No flames from me on this one; another time, maybe. :-)
fucked? well, fuck it then!
i made this one sticky just to see if anyone is still awake.
vast, i hear ya. like i said, i was never one of Hers. anyway, i'm just talking hard stats, facts, and the ugly truth of the undemocracy we all live in. This Is What I'm Told By Those In Power. i happen to know some of those. i'm trying to share it with you all.
i could be wrong. it'd be funny, and interesting, if i am. but here's what's i was told today: supreme court, or veep, or senate chief. she's negotiating for that, at this point. or so insiders tell me. we'll see if i'm wrong. either way:
i want the old corrente back. stat. step up, yo? newbies, you can stay. but it's time to put out, or shut the fuck up. what else can you do but bitch (heh)?
something substantive, i hope. or, let lambert die. he gave his blog/life to you, and HRC. it's time to pay up.
You can't put your hand in the same river twice
And, as a consequence, you can't have the old Corrente back. Life goes on, people change, new ideas come into being, and new tasks emerge.
A gardener should know this? Eh?
Nor is it up to you to allow the newbies to stay, or not to stay. The ones who write well and can stand the pace will survive; the ones who write badly and are lazy will drop away, like always.
And I've done what I do without the expectation of payment.
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
They must be kidding. I mean, really, really kidding.
After what they've done to her public reputation? The Supreme Court? The only reason the DNC would propose such a nomination is to give a clear shot to all those who've been threatening to assassinate her for the past 16 years, before she sets foot in court.
Same with VP. How can Randi Rhodes walk back the accusation that the Clintons have killed people (viz Bartcop for the details, and the mp3), then say we should support her in September? And Pelosi's going to give up her power without doing the same disruptive tactics we've seen in this election, but within the Senate chambers?
I think your sources are doing the equivalent of patting you on the head, trying to soothe Clinton supporters their own version of fairy tales. After the energization of hatred nationally, I wouldn't be surprised if Clinton faces challengers to her Senate seat beginning in January. Too much damage has been done to give her any power worth having.
and only for you, only for you, VL, will i watch
teevee. clicking now. it better be good.
Obama will be the nominee --> President McCain
I am realistic in realizing that the Powers That Be will ensure Obama is the nominee, but I also realize that it guarantees McCain will win the presidency. Obama is too weak a candidate for "us" to make a difference--especially against McCain, a man too easily underestimated by the left.
Fighting for principles is a worthy endeavor
No matter what the odds (and I don't think the odds are that great, whatever these unnamed "higher ups" say). Rather than flame I'll just point out that if I listened to folks tell me to quit, I wouldn't be a day and a half away from getting my PhD. I'm glad I didn't listen to the naysayers then. I won't listen to them now. Some people are worth ignoring, especially those who don't want to give democracy a chance.
Well, since I'm one of the newbies...
Personally, I think that there are still battles to be fought. And I don't think that the dirt dumped last Friday should have been left unanswered.
But hey, I'm a guest here and if I do bring down the level of writing and analysis,then, fair enough. this place belongs to the people who built it.
"i want the old corrente back. stat. step up, yo? newbies, you can stay. but it’s time to put out, or shut the fuck up. what else can you do but bitch (heh)?"
And I'm certainly not one to overstay my welcome since I do think the level of hysteria and dirt from "the other side" has reached new low and will continue to do so, I make it a matter of principles worth fighting for to strike back. I just won't do it here.
I understand your reasoning, CD.
Go Global!
Frenchdoc, don't go
It is not for CD to kick you out. I've liked your posts, and I like the discussions we've had.
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
I know I may be part of the problem
but I can't talk about this anywhere else that I've frequented online. Not the boards I've been part of for years, not at work with friends. They are all for Obama, and saw Clinton as a destructive nuisance in January. I literally had to step away from a lunch conversation because I knew if I said anything, I would be pointed out as unmutual, and life's hard enough.
But I am not sorry for what I believe about this election, and how I responded here to deliberate provocation by legitimate Obama supporters and jobbed-in trolls.
"I can’t talk about this anywhere else..."
Exactly. Same deal with me.
17 million voters with no place to talk? That's a remarkable result, and the sign of an extremely sick society.
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
FrenchDoc,
If my voice means anything here anymore, I would be very, very disappointed to see you leave.
The obots
are always loudest when Hillary is going to win. Those "in the know" have been talking about how Hillary's planned to get out for months. Is two weeks really too long to let democracy play out?
But hey, if I'm not welcome. So it goes. MSM/Obama has tried to shut us out of every other venue, this is nothing new.
Exactly
Seen it before.
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
no, not you! i lurv your work, frenchdoc!
you've done a lot of good stuff, in and out of the horserace. please, stay! i thank you for being here. i really, really do.
sorry, VL. KO just pisses me off. like all the rest of them. i grok your point. he's a teevee creation, and i've never thought otherwise. is he biased against her? of course! and will he be all super-brother-pro-obama in the fall? of course! will it make a fucking difference? fuck no?
you already knew i was going to say this: turn it off. convince your family and friends and neighbors to turn it off. or, die. your choice.
I've learned from your work here.
Thank you.
I'd like to know if they have a General Election Plan?
I believe that Obama is unelectable. I'm not going to hang out here bugging you about stuff no one can help. But I'm also not going to hang out with the Democratic Party if they knowingly accept an unelectable nominee.
I don't hear anyone discussing the issues that are lurking out there.
Do your powerful friends have any ideas?
I don't want to drag the place down, so I'll leave know. I just thought I'd share those questions before I go.
It was a blast. Thanks.
Katiebird, don't go
It's not for CD to say whether you stay or leave.
I enjoy your comments, so don't go, please.
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Then you need to be the change you seek
Those who seek balance need to add their own weight to the scales, and not seek to silence others.
For me, this primary turned into a justice fight long ago. I am in this 'til the last dog dies.
And if there's something preventing anybody from posting on McCain, I'd like them to explain what it is.
Have at it. Be the change you seek. Do the work. Because that's what I've done. Now there's a funded server and double the readers we used to have. So to those who were absent while that was accomplished and say "I don't recognize my blog," I answer "And?"
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Positive trajectories
Lambert, my view on the world is simple: you can't keep positive reform down forever. Some may seek to prevent dissent, but eventually "this wall" will come down. You can push those seeking positive reform to the smallest cracks and corners of society, but you can't stifle justice indefinitely. We may have to bounce from nook and cranny to nook and cranny, but we will always be there. When dissent is not allowed, rotting is inevitable. The eternal struggle will never end no matter what the oppressors want to make the people think.
The great thing about PB2.0 as I envision it, is that the tyrannical elements soon lose their influence. The internet has increased the speed at which people can congregate which can be used for good or ill. We have yet to master it's potential for good when it comes to politics. But I'll promise you this: we eventually will.
I see social work and technical work that needs to be done
And it needs to be done regardless of the Republican or the Democratic candidate for President. I plan to do part of my work on that topic here.
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
What Lambert said
If everyone who's not writing in support of Hillary stops posting and says "why is everybody just writing in support of Hillary?" that's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy, isn't it?
Also, I'm not too thrilled to see fine commenters/posters like FrenchDoc and Katiebird be made to feel unwelcome. But why should this spot be different than the other 95% of the leftysphere?
gqmart: don't be a whining bitch, and welcome to Corrente
yeah, that's right. i'm a sr fellow here too. stop your whining. i'm only trying to Get It Done, m'kay?
blah, blah, polysyllabic blah (that's a fav teevee quote, look it up) i'm so fucking sick and tired of horserace whining and bitching and race baiting and all the fucking rest of it. and you know what? you whiners have ruined my fucking blog. you. ruined it. fuckers. there, it's late and i'm that fucking angry. but you know what?
what the fuck have any of you done, beyond hold back the oborg? and yes, i agree with you, they are "the oborg." we'll get to that, in 09, and you won't be sorry to have been outside of it. i know this, i've said so, i grok that, etc.
this. isn't. about. him.
this is about the war/occupation. the reality that the SCLM
picks our Leaders for us, despite our aims and goals. for krist's sake, i live in MI. did my vote count? was this primary "valid?" do you think it can't happen to you? does anyone here remember dukaukis? kerry? dean? hello, anyone?
...that's my angry side. it gets worse when i drink. lucky for you, i'm trying to Get Sober. want to help? go work for...oh, here's a crazy idea: someone KO never, ever speaks of. you know, those meaningless people in "congress" who fund the fucking war that is fucking taking food out of your fucking grandkids' mouths. ready for that? ready to get out, off your ass, off your computer, and give real and painful time to elect a "more and better" dem in your state? more than one, even? that's what i'm doing, who the fuck cares if it's BHO or HRC or whomever moderate, middle way rethug lite dem we have next year.
gas is 4 fucking dollars a gallon here. it's not even july. wake the fuck up, people. that's really the point of this post, sorry go all nukyular but i tried, and failed to hold the Real Me in on this subject. we got fucked, royally, in MI, and it's happening to the rest of you. wake up and smell it, or die. your choice.
There's nothing that can be operationalized here, CD
and if you can explain how getting "the old Corrente" back -- however you define that -- is going to achieve what you want (which I don't understand) I'd be very grateful.
In the same way, I would be very grateful if you could explain to all the new accounts we now have why making them feel unwelcome is a good idea.
Is the idea that anything on the internet should be shut down?
Is the idea that as the SCLM
picks our President for us we should lay back and enjoy it?
Is the idea that we should cease being "resistance historians" even though what you expect to happen has not happened?
And can you possibly imagine that I don't have a reasonably clear idea of how fucked things are?
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
I only discovered Corrente/BoldlyShrill
recently in my haste to exit the big orange cheatopia haka. It had been the only politcal blog I read for years.
I only gradually realised that I was only bookmarking or quoting Lambert posts...then I noticed there are other Senior Fellows of the Mighty Corrente Building...so now I see that no dissent may be brooked by one fellow, surely that doesn't mean the others have to fall in line a la dailykos?
And especially as this superduper topsecret inside knowledge of the giant will of the Superdelegate Oneness is without any attributions...
I would bet that just as theres four times as many Clinton voters per delegate (kudos to Axelrod for clever gaming of a stupid system) I would also bet theres many Supers who are likewise horrified by this creepy Orwellian takeover of the Democratic Party.
I don't believe that we as a party are stupid enough to throw away this election.
CD, his name is Mark Udall
and when I saw him in action in 2006, working with DeGette to keep polling places open past the deadline due to the total collapse of the Denver election computer system, I knew he'd be the man Salazar isn't. If the wave of Obama can get him into office and turn Colorado blue, then that will be a consolation.
I will work for him, even if I can't mention Obama's name in any positive way until the convention.
For real?
chicago dyke: …i’m trying to Get Sober.
It would explain a lot. [no snark or sarcasm intended.]
Gimme Some Truth
If I could have embedded that video, I would have, because it seems a goddamn crying waste of time and energy to link away from TMCB. ITMT, be sure to come back because Lennon is always worth going for.
Gimme some truth
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Lambert, Thanks.
1971!
Lost my local guy to Obama
Same Democratic expedience that brought us Five Fabulous Years in Iraq.
Awesome.
Same high-school clique mentality which rules the lives of those in the Village
.
Awesome.
How about we just let the nominating process finish?
arrogance
yours. get over it
katiebird: my real friends stay with me, in hard times
as well as in those that are flush. if you really mean that crap, fuck off and go away, and don't waste our time anymore. seriously.
disagree with me? go work for HRC. hate me? say so, and why, and with reason and logic. but give up? what a lame bitch you must be, if you wimp out over one fucking post. grow up. or, recognize that those of us who are in this for the Long Haul are real, and we don't need or want you.
hate me? tell me why. or run away like a little grrl. your choice. your turn.
There's a little more to friendship than toleration
I'm just saying.
Je repete
Katiebird quotes CD saying:
And as I said:
The way to maintain the standards is to moderate the threads and give feedback to posters. If you don't want to invest the time in that, then don't complain about the result--or ask others to invest the time to meet your demands.
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
we're stuck with goolsbee no matter who's nominated
he's the senior economist for the dlc, as well as obama's economic advisor.
unless of course, we end up with mccain.
tony, play with me
Same high-school clique mentality which rules the lives of those in the Village
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Awesome.
hey, brilliant, i've got some news for you.
"high school clique mentality" runs the fucking country. or didn't you notice? i work for the party, for others in the Biz. i've live in DC. i've been on the fucking floor of more "capitols" than most people here ever will be, including this state and the "nation's," how about you? is it fair? is it right? of course, no it isn't. am i arrogant? fuck yeah, i am.
when was the last time you spoke with the senate majority leader? i can tell when i have. recently. and others.
tell me again: i don't know what the fuck i'm talking about. tell me again how Purity and Truth will beat out corruption and money. i'm sure there are some songs. i'm so fucking sick and tired of pie in the sky, we don't have to think abou that, la la la, dems.
as it happens, i too don't think BHO can win in the fall. i'm just like him, i've lived his life. i can't "prove" that to any of you, but it's true. i've also accepted: "maverick" is working. well, hard, whatever. this is the point of this post. are you ready to give up your own, interblogospherical battles that no one cares about? when will you be? people who read the political blogobullshit are like .00006% of the electorate. what about the rest? have you worked with, GOTV'd, funded, etc., any of those? people are dying, starving, motivated for Hope and Change.
obama won't bring us that. not willingly. so. are you ready to give up and die b/c it won't be HRC? or try to do something to make a moderate "black" candidate a true progressive?
trust me, i'm going to get mean on this one. i'm sick and fucking tired of the bitching. people are dying. like, me. so it's time to do something about it, or just be a lame Consumer who makes no difference. but myself: i won't go down without a fight. so now you have one. let's join together and direct it at the Real Enemy: mccentury.
Perhaps...
Someone might try telling BHO to consider to making Boomers, feminists, atheists, Reagan-haters, and Bubbas feel a little bit welcome.
He might have a little leverage in this situation.
You know, since you're in touch with the movers and shakers and all.
And one really good way to do that...
... would be to make all the Hillary supporters here feel as welcome as possible. Eh? Journey of a thousand miles, and all. (If Obama in fact wants to to do that, which I doubt.)
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
CD, can you give me the date of your last post on McCain?
Just asking.
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
when was the last time you
As the nuns in school used to say, "Did you bring enough for everybody?".
And I'm thoroughly unimpressed with your name-dropping.
Hey, I'm all for holding my nose and keeping my eye on the ball. As a gay man, I've tucked it under for years to vote for folks like Gore, Edwards, and Kerry who were far from perfect, but had the redeeming quality that they were vaguely LIBERAL and had records of service and long-term issues and fights which defined them, and had the economic interests of my people at heart. They sure weren't tort-reforming deregulators. But the Democrats are always several years behind the ball (being so un-chic, not like the kewl kidz in your rolodex) and in 2008 they wanted the perfect candidate ... for 2004. So we have the candidate with less fag and More Jayzus. Fine, I could see myself as hanging with this again until I saw that BO does this all so very, very, very badly. He's a BAD candidate, an upfront caver, and all around carries the stench of mediocrity.
But back to the glbt front - which frankly, should be enough in my book to end this conversation as far as someone like Obama is concerned - on that front and so many others this year over time, Obama has asked the fundamentally nuclear question: "Where the fuck are YOU gonna go?"
Well, now he gets to find out.
The last refuge of a political scoundrel in 2008 is not to wave the flag, but to hold up a giant blue "D", and shout "J'accuse!" at me. But it's this party which has offended and disappointed me, and which is (IMHO) on a fast fast track to solidifying the political center of this country as something barely to the left of Glenn Beck. I will not reward the party elders for this chicanery. Donna B. says it can all be done without me, anyway, so I don't matter.
So stop bugging me.
What you said, TonyRZ
I quote:
Yep. The Blue Dogs and the Republicans are going to get more powerful, not less.
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
totally--
we're preemptively told we don't count--us and millions and millions of others.
How is that in any way ok?
You have a job where you can make a difference.
And right now, you are fighting an interblogspherical battle, for your own blog.
For your job, for this blog, when you are successful, what do you expect to see?
And please tell the party that you work for that the ammo, and money, and media resources that were wasted was not done on the whole by us: If they direct their fire at the Real Enemy, I will, too.
(sniff) I'm probably way to sensitive
But I've come to love this place: the posters and commenters have become important to me.
So, finding a lead story that battered my sense of Democracy (forget the votes -> Hillary's lost) and then says people like me are barely tolerated. Well. I took it personally.
I'm sorry about that. But, it's been that sort of day at other blogs too.
[Edited] I wrote the above before I saw your comment Lambert.
Thank you -- you are wonderful. And I will stay. But what is going on? Why has this weekend been so unbearable?