Huh? Some "nationalization" this turned out to be:
Paulson Lacks Leverage to Compel Banks to Put New Cash to Work
Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson persuaded nine major U.S. banks to accept $125 billion in government investment. Getting them to lend it out may prove a tougher sell.The equity stakes the government is purchasing in Citigroup Inc., Morgan Stanley and seven other big institutions come with no guarantee that the investments will spur lending and unfreeze credit markets. Nor do they give the government board seats or any other leverage to demand that that the firms actually use the money to help the economy.
``The truth of the matter is, they can't put a gun to their head and say you have to lend this money,'' said Charles Horn, a former official at the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, part of the Treasury Department, and now a partner at the Mayer Brown law firm in Washington.
Treasury officials acknowledge they can't force banks to get the taxpayer money into the hands of their customers. Instead, officials are betting that the government's investment will create conditions where banks have a greater incentive to earn profits from lending than to hoard money to shore up their balance sheets.
Is this some kind of weird spin? What are they going to do with the money if not lend it? Fondle it in their vaults? Buy toxic assets after all? Snap up small banks to eliminate competition? WTF
?
I mean, everywhere I hear guarantee this, guarantee that, but the taxpayers hand a trillion dollars to the big banks, and they get no guarantee of liquidity? I thought one reason for the, er, plan was to unfreeze lending?
Is there some piece of fabulously sophisticated financial engineering I'm missing, here? Granted, that's entirely possible, but somehow I don't think so:
``What you'll see most large institutions saying is, `We will certainly listen to the government but our decisions are what's in the best interest of our shareholders,''' said John Coffee, a securities law professor at Columbia University.
Er, but the trillion isn't the stockholder's money. It's mine.
This whole thing is starting to look more and more like Iraq, to me, and not just in the decision-making that got us there. In Iraq, it would have been simpler, cheaper, and, I would argue, far more effective simple to airdrop a few billion in cash on pallets all over the country. Same deal here. Not only are we giving a trillion to the same guys who got us into the mess, we don't have any control over them at all. Why not just airdrop the cash all over the country? At least then the money would go to work...
UPDATE Which is why I have to disagree with Ezra Klein, who writes:
Brad DeLong has a pleased, if slightly eccentric, take on the plan. By contrast, my take on this will make David Broder cry: The liberals were right. Not the Democrats. The liberals. They were right that deregulation had gone too far. They were right when they spent the last few years offering unpopular predictions that the Housing Bubble would pop. They were right that a liquidity problem had become a solvency problem. They were right that government intervention on a massive scale was needed to stabilize the capitalist system. They were so right, in fact, that Hank Paulson and George W. Bush couldn't hold the line, and will now sign into law the most profoundly socialist measure this country has seen since the 1930s.
The bailout isn't even superficially socialist, let alone profoundly, if the government has no control over how the money is spent. How hard can this be to understand?
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I'm glad to find out that Paulson has such a fine pedigree
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10...
Well, now we know why the "confidence," eh?
Krugman truly is God, though.
[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
almost everyone is an old Nixon/Ford person
in this administration---and all horrible.
Of course, Obama's gonna keep Paulson and others on, i'm sure.
And brilliant help is on the way!
http://www.moderateindependent.com/v6iOC...
i hope that's satirical--
if that guy is serious, he's a fool--we would never use easy money to pay down debts. we spend money, whether we have it or not.
this whole thing is just a way to
enrich those already rich--companies and stockholders alike.
They're going to sit on the money because it'll raise their stock prices and give them a cushion (that regular people don't have now, and will lose via govt services and programs due to the fact that they're purposely bankrupting the budget)
Plus, the government (us) is also taking bad assets off their hands, which will help them too--we take all the burden in every single way and get nothing in return.
Planet Money discussed this last night
You're not going to like the answer but apparently they can give the money to their shareholders in the form of dividends. And this will reward the shareholders for not bailing on the bank and everything will be hunky dory and things will return to normal, ie, all effed up.
See, wasn't that fun?
Come together at The Confluence
Come together at The Confluence
Well, damn, I have to give credit to a GOP congresscritter
for voting against this abomination -- the first time it came around.
Here's the email I got in response:
Thank you for contacting me regarding the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act, H.R. 1424, which Congress recently passed and President Bush signed into law on October 3, 2008. I appreciate knowing your thoughts on this important issue.
We are facing financial difficulties that have not been experienced in a long time. There is no shortage of blame to go around - from those who purchased homes they could not afford, to lenders who made bad loans, to investors who bought securities backed by these loans or sold those troubled securities on to others and also to the government for not slowing lax lending practices sooner. Financial institutions are holding large amounts of assets backed by mortgages and others loans that there is now essentially no market for, making it difficult for them to lend, borrow and raise new capital. There is no market for these complex assets because their value and integrity are difficult to determine in this uncertain market.
Our markets are not functioning normally, and problems within the credit markets now threaten to impact those who did not create them. Money that would normally be flowing through our financial system to allow people to get mortgages, small businesses to get loans, or families to buy a car is drying up or has become more costly to borrow. It is extremely frustrating that we find ourselves in a position to have to consider continuous extraordinary government interventions that will cost all taxpayers, not just those responsible for these problems.
I voted against this legislation because I do not believe purchasing these risky assets is the best way to solve the problems in our economy and because alternatives should have been more fully vetted. This legislation grants extensive authority to the Treasury Department with a large amount of money, adding significantly to the national debt. It also sets a precedent that those who made poor decisions can rely on the taxpayers to step in and cover their mistakes.
As this legislation was put together, I talked with numerous people with first-hand experience working in the financial markets, economists and the Treasury Department. My conversations led me to believe there is no consensus this is the right, best or only solution to the problems the markets are experiencing. When Congress is making this large of a commitment of American tax dollars, we should have had a better idea of how this plan would be implemented and whether other interventions would work better.
Although I voted against this bill, I am committed ensuring the Treasury Department implements this plan in a responsible manner. Now is the time to roll up our sleeves and ensure this plan maximizes benefits to our economy and taxpayer protections.
On October 14, Treasury outlined plans to use $250 billion of its authority under this legislation to purchase preferred stock shares in financial institutions in order to increase their capital and lending ability. An additional $100 billion is available for purchases of troubled assets from financial institutions, such as those backed by mortgages, after Treasury reports to Congress. Congress retains the authority vote to withhold the final $350 billion of the $700 billion authorized. The legislation also requires the establishment of an insurance guarantee program that, instead of purchasing assets with taxpayer funds, insures assets at no cost to the taxpayer through premiums paid by the holders of the assets.
After purchase of stock shares, Treasury will receive dividends on the stock, and financial institutions may repurchase the stock from the government after raising private capital or after three years. With regard to any assets purchased, Treasury has authority to hold, reprocess or sell them, with any proceeds from the sale or income from the assets going to reduce the national debt. Financial institutions that participate in the programs must agree to limits on executive pay and severance, and the legislation specifies a reporting and oversight process. The authority to purchase shares or assets expires at the end of 2009.
In addition, the legislation increases the amount of bank deposits insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation from $100,000 to $250,000 through 2009; the FDIC has taken separate action to provide full coverage for non-interest bearing deposit accounts. While the Securities and Exchange Commission has taken initial steps to relax "mark-to-market" accounting rules for assets that currently do not have a market, H.R. 1424 requires them to consider further changes.
Even during this time of uncertainty, I am confident our economy can regain its strength. Families, Main Street and Wall Street all need to take another look at how they use debt and credit and use it more responsibly. I hope we will see some fundamental changes and go back to the basics of lending and borrowing in which decisions are made based on the ability of the borrower to repay. I also pledge to work tirelessly with my colleagues in Congress and the current and next Administration to help put America's financial system back on track and to ensure those who created the problems take more responsibility for paying to fix them.
Sincerely,
Randy Neugebauer
Member of Congress
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! Knowing that we’re not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18
Call on line one
He says his name is Mr. Margin.
Banks are holding on to the cash to prop up the stock price for investors (sure, sure) and especially the top execs whose lifestyles are dependent on borrowing money agains the stock options in the companies they run.
That is only partially true. The part about "bought shares on margin" should be "were awarded shares as compensation and borrow money against it".
That is also true, but more importantly look at examples like these:
Info to know:
Ho ho!
Har.
Here is how it works (though their math is a little off).
And the "money" quote:
That would be in the "Oops, I buried the lede" Department.
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Flim/Flam and Scam, Uncle Sam I Am
One need look no further than Obama's largest
investorscontributors to see why he is this year's favorite flavor.The name of the game is always "who controls the U.S. Treasury?". They hated Clinton because he took his job as being building equity for the country and adding to the Treasury, not drawing it down as fast as possible and directing the flow to the elite few. Hilary would have done the same, and thus had to be cut down at any cost. Obama is their boy. McCain is a wild card, one with an occasional conscience, no less.
They will not (willingly) let anyone win who does not guarantee their unfettered control of the treasury. And with their consolidation of the media and now - in a brilliant strategic maneuver -
ownershipcontrol of the Democrats, they have guaranteed their uninterrupted hold on the country's purse strings.Till now the most efficient way to effect the flow of funds to their pockets was war. Just where do you think the great majority of the trillion dollars for the two wars has gone? And the financial crisis is yet one more opportunity to loot the taxpayer's piggy bank. It always happens right in front of our eyes, way too big to be a conspiracy. Tin foil? Fuck
that. If it smells like shit, don't eat it, ok? Just read the Bloomberg piece...we're being robbed with our eyes wide open. And who is leading the charge? Bush and Obama (who said Bush is a lame duck? Not for the money guys, he ain't. He's still busy as a beaver.)
The same people who control Bush and controlled the Republicans lo these many years, have now literally purchased the Democrats and are the people to whom Obama answers. With the Republicans falling into disfavor and already fat beyond imagining, the flip-flop to the other side, hungry and willing to do their bidding, was a shear master stroke.
totally--
the real crime is that our party is now willingly going along with all this and making it easy--we could probably light up all of the country with the electricity generated by FDR and LBJ and millions of others spinning in their graves.
What a great idea!
We could accomplish energy independance too.