can you just shut the fuck up with the gawd babble, obama? krist. at least leave out the parts about what “we” can all do together. i am most decidedly not taking part in the rapture.

…religion being a really great stimulus for the conditioned response of war.

There’s nothing like those high selfless ideas to get the weak-minded to march off and lay down their lives for the good of the CEO.

It’s one of the oldest Sith Lord mind tricks around.

No Hell below us
Above us, only sky

Hillary’s a Neo-Liberal, Globalist, CONSERVATIVE “Democrat”-Corporatist-War-hawk. One Clinton was plenty.

Obama’s a little less Neo-Lib (though still well within the fold), a Globalist, and a CONSERVATIVE Corporatist God-hawk.

Neither Edwards, nor anyone else, will get the nomination as long as the former two are alive.

So I’ll likely stay home.

A Quick Study, But A Slow Learner

I hope the Republicans remember to thank you for your non-vote.

I’ll vote for the merely bad as opposed to the batshit insane any day of the week, especially since the Kool-Aid drinkers will be out in force….

We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan

The franchise is no better than a political kabuki, designed to reassure the yokels, but not much else…
(Tinfoilly) I’m pretty sure the Pukes engineered their “losses” last year to ensure the Dems HAVE to bear some reponsibility for the Bushevik world-wide disasters.
You may not have noticed (mebbe you’re younger than me? i dunno), but in the almost 50 years I’ve been watching this stuff, things almost never—really, “never”—revert to their earler, more innocent, idealist conditions. The Pukes have learned how to manipulate the counting, reliably. As Stalin (is reputed to have) said: It doesn’t matter who votes; what matters is who counts the votes. They’ll never abandon the technology of electoral corruption; it’s worked so well. And the Congress will ALWAYS leave a loop-hole in ANY legislation it passes to regulate future conditions.
I always knew the American Democracy was delicate, and that its opponents were numerous. But I never really thought I would watch it fall.

A Quick Study, But A Slow Learner

… about the state of American democracy and the Democratic Party.

But if I have an opportunity to help sway us toward the lesser of evils — or, should an Edwards or a Gore get the nomination — much better than that, I’ll do it in a heartbeat.

If Hillary and Obama aren’t models of progressive thought and action, they aren’t evil or batshit crazy like the GOP’s cast of characters, and whichever survives our badly compromised primary process will get my vote over any Bush’s Third Term candidate.

I like that one, VL. Let’s propagate it.

We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan

http://correntewire.com/bushs_third_term

I wish MoveOn would work on making it go viral.

If only there was a way to make it rhyme with “Petraeus”…

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We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan

If Hillary and Obama aren’t models of progressive thought and action, they aren’t evil …

I have yet to be convinced of that.

who cannot reliably be called evil at this time.

If you want a good President, go with Edwards.
Gore isn’t going to run. He’s smarter than that. There’s no upside to running for him.

Thompson is a nonstarter financially as well as philosophically. Really, the guy thinks he can parlay his lawnorder role into the White House? I don’t think even GOP voters are going to stay that delusional.

We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! Knowing that we’re not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0

all their worldly goods are left behind as well.

Be cool to put a load of that crap on E-bay and use the profits for national good, won’t it?

C’mon: Rapture the GOP — SOON

We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! Knowing that we’re not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0

Other than “Saving The Whole Fucking World?”

Me? A Quick Study, But A Slow Learner

… if Thompson will benefit from his Chauncey Gardiner empty-suit approach. People will be wowed if he says one vaguely witty or sensible thing.

As for whether Hillary and Obama are as evil as the Repubs, I suppose it’s like pornography, you know it when you see it. They’re compromised equivocators, to be sure, but they don’t lie awake dreaming of ways to kick the poor, the women, and the dark folk, do they?

We’ll there’s that, sure.

To quote an unbelievably obscure song, “Girl from Pluto” by Reggie Knighton, where the contented narrator sings:

“She could have saved the human race, but instead she settled down with me.”

I hope Tipper will encourage her man to do the former.

That’s POSSIBLY true, though their commitment to the wonders of Globalization, Neo-Lib economics, and their clear affinity for CorpoRat hegemony suggests they PROBABLY don’t lie awake nights trying to figure out how to HELP those people, or ways to restore the Constitution, or to heal the wall between State and Church, either.

btw, i liked your reply to “perky” on DU. I’m 86’d there since like 2004, so i couldn’t endorse you post, though I wanted to.

A Quick Study, But A Slow Learner

what, exactly? Faith that the words written by Semitic Temple Priests during the Bronze Age, and the Part II: New and Improved words agreed upon by vote at Nicaea have some fairy dust in them? Ever wonder why, when people are praying in public, they shut their eyes? It’s so the facts don’t get in the way.

++++

Note to vl re Tipper: After his galactic epiphany beneath the Bodhi Tree, Gautama Buddha had a choice between nirvana and coming back to teach the world what he had learned. Jesus had to be sacrificed to satisfy the requirements of a particularly sadistic contract, but Buddha was under no such obligation.

That being asserted, I will vote for Clinton over any Republican candidate. I would vote for Gore above all other candidates. More Buddha, please.

++++

Because if an honest person runs for president, and gets elected, you can be sure that person will soon be invited onwards by the military-industrial-contractor complex.

Although we will be told the deliverer of the invitation is a lone gunman.

Again.

No Hell below us
Above us, only sky

Fight for what’s right or die trying?

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Confessions of an Economic Hitman?

The way it works is, a national leader gets elected with great public support.

S/he assumes office.

Within a week or so, somebody shows up with great letters of recommendation to advise said leader.

the conversation goes like this: “I can make you and your family incredibly rich. Just do as you are told.”

unspoken, but known to everybody in the room is the knowledge of what happens to people who don’t take the money. Folks like Torrijos, Arbenz, Allende: They don’t have to tell you.

Something of the same sort happens to everyone who aspires to prominent national office in this country, too.

A Quick Study, But A Slow Learner

Edwards is doing just fine. Buck up.

“If Hillary and Obama aren’t models of progressive thought and action, they aren’t evil …

I have yet to be convinced of that.”

You do know that the burden of proof stands with the accuser not the accused?
Well unless its a republican doing the accusing.

October being a long time ago from here in December.

Whatever happened to Woody, dammit? People are starting to wonder. I don’t remember any major dustups but haven’t seen him around in weeks.

Zee, I like your post most of all. It holds up the best over time. Edwards is getting ridiculous stories written about him today, which tells me that The Powers That Be are getting worried about him again.

This is oddly not what I expected. Hillary gets bashed on a regular NYT schedule, about every week and a half; Obama gets a sort of praising-with-faint-damns story on about the same schedule, but mostly they want to keep the horserace coverage between the two of them.

I really expected a rah-rah-Edwards push around now to balance out the pro-McCain campaign that has popped up like a midwinter mushroom as Guiliani and Romney have been sinking like stones.

Edwards still seems to be the one they fear the most. Heh heh heh. :)

Leah, you should have at least one and possibly four messages.

Xan, I just answerered your question above.

We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan

hillary supported DOMA, the law barring gay marriage, and now only supports a partial repeal. while obama wants to get rid of the law altogether. obama wants states to recognize other states’ laws who allow gay marriage. this is hardly the scary picture of a christian ideologue you are trying to paint of him.

from chicago tribune 2004:

Obama said he would not let his religious beliefs dictate the way he approaches public policy. He said he would supports civil unions between gay and lesbian couples, as well as letting individual states determine if marriage between gay and lesbian couples should be legalized.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/print…

have you heard about hillary’s prayer group?

Through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the Fellowship. Her collaborations with right-wingers such as Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and former Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) grow in part from that connection.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/…

i worry more about somebody being secretive about their conservative christian ties.

she was a Young Republican in her college days.
she remains a conservative.
she remains committed to ideals that don’t advance the cause of the poor in this country — and the poor in this country is the fastest-growing demographic, regardless of religion, age, or gender.

What Atrios refers to — the mounds of sewage being flushed about between enormous financial confidence enterprises around the globe now — is eating away at the value of homes, farms, and even commercial real estate.
The “bubble” hasn’t just burst, folks. It’s exploding, like a septic tank gone systemic and rupturing to the gaseous bellow of a spewing interaction between rotary wings and fecal material.

Credit checks are available at the ER now, to see whether you can be counted on to pay your bill in a timely manner in order to determine how quickly you need to be treated.

Not only can your “health care coverage provider” now override your doctor on matters of prescriptions and procedures — anybody heard about the California girl, Nataline Sarkisyan, denied a life-saving (and proven) transplant because her insurance considered it an “experimental” procedure? — but soon whether you’re behind on your student loan payments will figure as much into how you’re treated post-traumatic-event as will your injuries’ severity, extent, and the availability of qualified treatment specialists.

Just imagine. We’re headed for a new Gilded Age.

Gilt, by the way, is not really gold.
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! Knowing that we’re not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0