Will the Misery Never End?
Hillary agrees to what would be the 964th debate of the 2008 campaign, in Pennsylvania.
Late Update: It gets worse. Obama has accepted and proposes yet another debate, this one in North Carolina, with Katie Couric moderating.
Eyes. Glazing. Over.
Translation: I'm b-o-o-o-o-o-r-e-d. I wanna be en-ter-t-a-i-n-e-d.
What a WATB
. Fucking Villagers, they suck.
God. Candidates debating each other! In a democracy! Imagine that! Question for Dave:
If voters like the debates, and they do, who gives two shits what a wannabe Broder thinks? And think of it this way: It's good for Obama, because he's still pretty slow on his feet. If he manages to game his way to the nomination by supppressing the vote in FL and MI, he's going to look back on this debates with gratitude for the experience he gained, believe me.
Meanwhile, over at Big Media Matt's, the same disease seems to have another set of symptoms:
In terms of pushing things through congress, I'd say the most important factor is this. Ted Kennedy and George Miller chair, respectively, the Senate and House education committees. They're the main Democratic architects of No Child Left Behind, and they're both supporting Barack Obama. Hillary Clinton, by contrast, has gotten a lot of support from the American Federation of Teachers which has been generally hostile to the broad thrust of what Kennedy and Miller have been doing. So while it's far from clear that either would-be president would, in practice, do anything noteworthy on K-12 education, an Obama administration would create a situation in which all the White House and the main legislative players regard each other as allies.
R-i-g-h-t. For Villagers, conflict bad! Consensus good! That's what Broder tells us, anyhow, and who is a vociferous, foul-mouthed blogger to disagree? What could go wrong?
After all, the last time Kennedy and a President worked together on a Bipartisan, consensus basis, we got NCLB....
NOTE It never ceases to amaze me how fast the mindrot set it. It's like when my squash plants got mildew. One day, green and glossy leaves. The next, everything's wilted and grey. In a week, nothing but a brown and curling mass of corruption. Sigh.
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Gawd, what a wanker
Shorter Kurtz: "What this nation needs is a coronation."
Most teachers and educators I talk to....
...............recognize NCLB as what it is: The last push by conservatives to destroy the public school system. The fact that Captain 'Hopey' Obama supports it surprises me not at all as judging from his book the Audacity of Hope he's educated at about junior high level. At least in so far as he understands anything about the nation's political history.
He absolutely does not. And the fact that he got honors at Harvard just shows me that Harvard ain't what it used to be.
Anyone in education knows that NCLB really stands for No Child Learns Bupkis.
My disgust of Obama, already very high, is reaching the projectile vomiting stage.
A. Citizen
Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.
Is it the water, or the cocktail weinies?
I wish CD were here. She could explain what it is...
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Spitting Upwind
--Absolutely true, A.Citizen. I retired from teaching public school last year because I could not take it anymore-fighting the dumbing down was like spitting upwind into a category 4 hurricane.
And believe me all levels have been lowered-it virtually takes an act of God to fail a kid now.
Not that I am bitter and cynical. Not much.
It almost seems as if there is a hidden agenda to keep us all stupid -now who could that possibly benefit?
kc
AC,
I haven't read "Audacity" yet, but Obama strikes me as very sharp.
He's buying into a truthy world where people create their own realities, which is quite distressing to me. But it has a well-demonstrated appeal, so I don't see it as a sign of questionable intelligence or education, so much as something potentially worrisome, should he turn out to be less than a perfectly insightful and benevolent reality-maker.
Obama is brilliant
I don't have a lot of use for him, but clearly he is very sharp.
Sometimes the irony hits like an iron skillet
"It has a well-demonstrated appeal..."
Yeah, like for the last eight years. Jeebus.
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi
"like for the last eight years"
Yes, that's exactly what I meant.
Comments on HRC: Free Republic vs. TPM
Honestly, I can no longer tell the difference. They are both digital public stonings of a scapegoat.
Well......Ms. Ferraro don't happen to agree with some of you....
...................and just like a woman she just refuses to admit she is wrong, wrong, wrong. See her be so right here:
http://takeaction.wordpress.com/2008/03/...
Be sure and clik on the linky for extra goodness!
Heh....heh.....heh.....
A. Citizen
Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.
"Mistah Kurtz"
Uh...you guys realize this is David Kurtz, one of JMM's first weekend fill-ins (formerly "TPM Reader DK"), not Howard Kurtz, the right-wing "media critic" for CNN and the Washington Post, right?
(For the record, my state's primary is over, I picked neither Clinton nor Obama, and I haven't been watching the debates either because especially with moderators like Timmeh! and Katie Couric, I know it's the idiocy of the questions that will cause the pain, not the boredom of hearing the same answers again. I'm all in favor of the voters in upcoming primary states having as much access to the candidates as they want, but the thought of Timmeh! pontificating for three days about how one or the other of them didn't conjugate a verb properly in Latin and how that dooms that candidate, well, that's enough to make me turn off the teevee until the convention.) --Matt
--Matt
mattd, are you sure it's not the same guy?
The similarity of their incuriosity is striking.
I didn't watch the early debates
because I knew it was pointless. Most of the candidates wouldn't even be around by Feb. 5th when I finally got to vote.
Not only that, I knew that the highlights (and lowlights) would be covered in the blogomedia.
I wouldn't be surprised that many people did the same, especially considering that most people aren't political junkies like me.
What I don't understand is why the media needs to cover the debates. If people are interested, let them watch. But immediately after each debate we have a bunch of bloviating gasbags tell us what we just saw.
Why do we need someone to tell us what we saw and what it meant?
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“I don't belong to any organized political party. I'm a Democrat.” - Will Rogers
Yes, I realize which Kurtz I'm dealing with
Though it seems to be a distinction without a difference.
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi