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Thanks to the wonder of Corrente Mail, I was having a conversation with Hipparchia earlier this evening.
As part of a long exchange, I said this: ~I have bought just about everything I need except shoes, socks and underwear at VV (local thrift store chain) over the past 20 years, and if not for that I would be in a load of debt for the necessities- I mean household items, books and clothing. ~
Hipp said: (I hope you don't mind being quoted w/o permission, Hipp) ~and yes, books ARE a necessity!~
That got me thinking about what kind of books I read. Or more specifically, what novels I read. I have a preference for detective/ mystery fiction. Then again, if I had to name a single favorite author, it would be Jane Austen.
Among my list of favorite writers in the detective genre, John D. MacDonald is in the top six. A little ping of delight went off in my head when Lambert quoted him here , referring to Eric Schneiderman.
~“I tried to like you, boy, and I just couldn't work it out.” --John D. MacDonald, Bright Orange for the Shroud~
Lambert comes up with some great quotes, mostly for his D and counting series. I'd like to know how he does it. And, Lambert, please tell me you are a reader of John D. MacDonald (lol).
But, that's not the point of this post, although the quote gave me a cosmic shove. That, plus I've been clearing out my novels, deciding which are keepers, and which go to the thrift store.
So, all, I am really interested to know- considering "low brow" ;) novels only, what is your favorite genre and within that, who are your favorite writers? And, among the "classics" (fiction), what is your "best book" or your "best author"? And, of course re: the above, "why?"

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"The Decline and Fall of Practically Everybody"
By Will Cuppy. I read this when I was 8 years old (yes I was bright, but it captured my interest, while having so many layers). I've read and reread it many many times-hysterical, sarcastic, cynical, yet true-all of the characteristics I learned to love and appreciate, and this was the start. Link here.
I love fantasy and science fiction.
In particular I've grown a great love, lately, for sword and sorcery tales, old pulp stuff with pulse-pounding action. In that department I've yet to meet a writer who surpasses Robert E. Howard. His writing has the magical ability to effortlessly conjure images before my mind's eye, so that as I read I seem to be watching a movie made of words. I'm also a huge fan of Edgar Rice Burroughs' John Carter books.
Not exactly progressive media, but I love it.
I cut my fantasy teeth on Weis & Hickman
And the Dragonlance series they started is STILL going strong.
A Song of Ice and Fire is now on my list, since Game of Thrones caught my attention.
Jacqueline Carey is tops on my fantasy/alternate history list, well built worlds with an incredible religious structure, paralleling our Dark Ages. Good stuff, her straight fantasy novels, Banewreaker and Godslayer weren't that good, but everything after that is incredible.
Sara Douglass' Wayfarer Redemption series for the sword and sorcery type(does some good stuff with alternative Christian and Greek mythology too).
Marjorie M. Liu for my urban fantasy.
At the moment, I am finally completing Christopher Paolini's Eragon series. Book one wasn't too bad, was not real happy with Book Two, but was curious to see where the story went, so I picked up Three and Four at the local book exchange for $6(in hardback!).
And I am impressed so far, the third book is the best by far, his writing improved by leaps and bounds, and the detail of the story is getting to be less tedious. He has spent a LOT of time building up dwarven society, which tends to get ignored a lot in fantasy(where the idea of "Eh, they're dwarves, what do we need to explain?" has taken root), and shuffled elven society to the sidelines, which doesn't happen often.
I used to read serious books and magazines....
... but now I do most of my serious reading online in real time.
I think, in retrospect, that is a knock-on effect from 2008, because both the New Yorker and the New York Review of Books were "feeder systems" for book reading, and they were both so Kool-Aid addled that I gave them up. In addition, I have no reasonable bookstore in walking distance, and the University Bookstore isn't serious.
However, I still (re-)read a good deal of grade B fiction including but not limited to:
1. Yes, John MacDonald. I too am taking my retirement a little bit at a time, though without Travis McGee's toolkit.
2. The Aubrey/Maturin series by Patrick O'Brien (far, far better than C.S. Forester because the characters are rounded)
3. Terry Pratchett but only with Sam Vimes and Lord Vetinari
And a great slew of detective including Christie, Connelly, Cross, Dexter, Marsh, Sayers, Simonen, and Stout.
SF I read little of. Why, after Phillip K. Dick? Although I like Richard Morgan's Takeshi Kovacs series a lot. It's beautifully written.
Fantasy just doesn't do it for me, unfortunately. I can't see the point after Tolkien.
Oh, on the epigraphs, I do it because I'm marinated in it through a lifetime of reading. Sadly, an obsolete culture that had its graces.
Mysteries
with a penchant for historical series:
Ancient Rome -- Steven Saylor's Roma sub rosa series about Gordianus the Finder, John Maddox Roberts' SPQR, and to a lesser degree Lindsay Robinson's Falco series.
Renaissance -- C.J. Sansom (I also liked his Winter in Madrid set in the Spanish Civil War.)
There are a number of decent World War I and aftermath series. I like both of Charles Todd's series.
Walter Moseley's Easy Rawlins series is a take on the African-American experience in Los Angeles from about the 50s on.
There are a number of good series that focus on the protagonist trying to understand his/her own and society's past and its relationship to present injustices -- James Lee Burke's Dave Robichaux, Dennis Lehane's Kenzie/Gennaro series, Ian Rankin's John Rebus. I think probably Denise Mina's Garnethill trilogy and her Paddy Meehan series would fit here.
And there are some that have good complex protagonists firmly situated in a specific community -- John Harvey's Charlie Reznick, Henning Mankell's Kurt Wallender, and Peter Robinson's Ian Banks.
I am also a huge Pratchett fan, with a particular fondness for Sergeant Angua.
Among the classics, it's Jane Austen. Pride and Prejudice is a virtually perfect book, so apparently effortless. I'm in awe of her ability to depict human failings without being mean-spirited. The other 19th c. book that I reread regularly is Dickens' Our Mutual Friend. Well, it's a mystery, of course, but mainly it gets at obsession and the modern wasteland as well as any book I can think of. T. S. Eliot, after all, originally planned to call The Wasteland "He do the police in different voices", a quotation from Our Mutual Friend
Like Lambert, most of my
Like Lambert, most of my serious reading is online analysing events and responding to them.
I used to like to read historical mysteries. I got the Brother Cadfael series (medieval England) just as it was starting. There were a couple of Roman ones. My favorite was Didius Falco. There was Egyptology with Amanda Peabody and ancient Egypt with Lauren Haney's Inspector Bat. All of these were quite successful series. The best ones tended to be early on with what seems to be the inevitable running out of steam in the later ones.
I used to read Leonardo Sciascia in Italian. He was a master at describing the atmosphere of corruption that infected Italian society and institutions. I guess I mention him because he could really evoke the claustrophobic nature of it and it reminds me so much of what is happening now. I liked Umberto Eco. Not sure his stuff went anywhere but it was always a fun ride. I liked his wealth of language. He had scads of words that never showed up in any Italian dictionary I ever knew of.
In Spanish, I started out with some of Arturo Perez-Reverte's other novels and then settled into his capitan Alatriste novels. I like these because they are Siglo de oro. They capture the futile sense of honor of two men serving people and an empire that aren't worth it and which they know aren't worth it.
In English, I started reading the Sookie Stackhouse novels before they got turned into Trueblood. I read the Harry Potter novels in English and several in French, and even a couple in Latin just for kicks.
Because of the unreasonable length of copyright laws, projects like Gutenberg have all of this old fiction from about 1850-1920. And as a kind of mindless relaxation, I have created my own e-editions of some of it. I can't say I have read that many of them. I sort of skim them as I manipulate them. But what interests me is the B grade literature of the period, especially in French and English: all the vintage science fiction, mysteries, and adventure stories that aren't just Verne, or Conan Doyle, or HG Wells, although I have these too. I think you learn a lot about the people of a particular time by looking at how and what they daydream about.
Then there are my "forever" books, like reading the first half of the Odyssey or Antigone a few lines at a time then setting them aside sometimes for months at a time. Or that phase a while back where I translated 30-40 of my favorite Tang poems, including that one Lambert cited once by Li Bai: We Fought South of the Walls.
I do not think I will ever have enough time to read everything I would like to.
Hugh, noting your command of many languages
Have you kept copies of your series on FDL as to why English should be first language? I had them via bookmarks, lost to a computer crash. I might have saved the texts somewhere, but that would take a lot of computer forensic work.
I know that this is no longer a subject of hot debate, but your apparently effortless essays were brilliant and hilarious.
Never mind, I found the English series in a corrente comment!!!!
sorry for duplicate
Never mind, I found the English series in a corrente comment!!!!
http://www.correntewire.com/leaving_fire...
At my request, I believe. I mean, the reprise.
"Seven Defenses of English"
macbeth
there, that takes care of "the classics."
now for the classics... some of the authors represented:
agatha christie
dick francis
tony hillerman
marcia muller
joan hess
ngaio marsh
rex stout
dorothy sayers
janet evanovich
lilian jackson braun
marcia muller
this does not begin to cover my list of favorite authors but it sure reveals my favorite genre. after i got out of college, i swore i'd never read another "serious" book ever again. i can't say i've kept that promise entirely, but i've been pretty good.
to further quote that conversation, valley girl noted that her list of b-grade authors didn't include many [any?] women, and that she had a theory about why that is. not that she ever actually shared that theory. of course, i've got a theory on that too, and i'd be willing to bet it's the same one. :)
Hi Hipp!
I was typing comment below when you put yours up.
Wow! Your list includes many familiars that I would have noted, given time for a longer list. I have read them all, but not all of each.
So, are you willing to share your theory? I mean, would you go first? Because after I told you via email that "I have a theory", I realized that it was not so easy to articulate.
btw, I am really gratified to see Dick Francis on your list.
not so easy to articulate
mine is reasonably easy to articulate, so i guess i was wrong about it being the same one.
i loved the harry potter series, but damn it, why couldn't it have been the hermione granger series? the stories would have been just as good.
my theory, in broad generalizations -
male authors write about male characters, and even when these characters are fairly stereotypical and 2-dimensional, they're still well-rounded and do stuff. and the stuff they do is serious, or fun, or exciting, or adventurous, or worthy, or intellectual, or...
female authors write about female characters, and even when they're well-rounded and do stuff, they still spend a lot of their time being stereotypical females: doing housework, or taking care of the kids, or worrying about their love lives, or...
Yep, Hipp
You said it differently than I might have tried to. But, along the same line of thought, I guess that I am so familiar with the stereotypical female life that it's no revelation to me to read such. I mean the books that have these details.
Interestingly, my male friends who love mysteries vastly prefer the works of female authors. I dunno. Maybe the interest is in the female details. And, the best women mystery writers do paint "ordinary" life with humor and vividness.
And, the point about "doing stuff". That is true. It's always interesting to see how the males step out of line, and stir things up. As for being stereotypical, yes, true also, although the Dick Francis' males do seem to be a cut above the usual. Reflective, true, etc.
I'm surprised not to see Amanda Cross on your list
Amanda Cross is the pseudonym for Carolyn Heilbrun, and English Professor IIRC at Columbia, as is her detective, Kate Fansler.
Amanda Cross
Lambert, not sure if comment was meant for me or Hipp.
I've read a lot of the Cross novels, and enjoyed them. But, for whatever reason, I don't keep them to re-read. I know the terrain, plus they put weird ideas about academic mayhem in my mind. I started looking at my colleagues through a slightly different filter. As in, hmmm..... I'd like to .... (fill in the blank) but I probably couldn't get away with it...
kate fansler!
i [heart] kate fansler, and yes, i have all of them.
i only listed the authors represented in the photos i linked to, rather than go through either my physical library or my faulty memory of said library.
Hipp! great photos at your link
Love the photo of your book shelf plus cats. I should have known! lol
Thanks all!
Thank you all for responding in such detail. There are some great ideas here for me to check out for my reading list- I was running out of ideas. It would be tough to comment in detail on the posts, because of the wealth of information everyone gave.
I said I had a preference for mysteries/ detective fiction. My quick list of favorite authors there, which I wrote before to Hipp, is thus, in no particular order- Ross MacDonald, John D. McDonald, Robert B. Parker, Dick Francis, Dashiell Hammett, Raymond Chandler. But, I've read them out, so I'm casting around. btw, my list is hardly inclusive, and expanded includes most of the authors Lambert mentions re: detective fiction. I haven't read Simonen, and I had to look up Dexter. Colin Dexter, I assume. And, Hugh mentions Amanda Peabody in Egypt- wonderful and entertaining series by Elizabeth Peters (Barbara Michaels)- read them all, alas- alas in the sense that I don't have the pleasure of discovery to look forward to.
Mysteries- why? Because I like the puzzle, and often the ability of the author to direct and misdirect ones' attention, while still "playing fair". If I remember correctly, the idea of "playing fair" as a mystery writer arose with Christie's books, which set that standard. Thus the great howls about "Who Killed Roger Ackroyd".
Heck, I'm getting off into the weeds! Better stop.
Except to say to my fellow lover of Jane Austen- in college I remember, after having read "Pride and Prejudice" for Eng. lit. course, that aha! moment- Ah, these books are called "classics" for a reason. Oh, and P&P is stellar, but my favorite is "Emma", for the humor, and the unceasing wrong-headedness of Emma. And more!
BTW Lindsey Davis writes the
BTW Lindsey Davis writes the Didius Falco series and nihil obstet names the other two I follow. And Lauren Haney's protagonist is Lieutenant Bak and he lives in the time of Hatshepsut.
Thanks Hugh- will check out
As said above, I am on the lookout for new ideas.
Italy- mysteries
Hugh, I've only listened to 2 of this series as "books on tape", from the library, and not books that appear in my thrift store shopping. Your earlier mention of Italy reminds me to seek out more, in print. I've really enjoyed them. Local color, interesting characters, etc.
Donna Leon- The Commissario Guido Brunetti Mystery Series - set in Venice.
I have a sister who is a big
I have a sister who is a big fan of the Brunetti series. She also likes Evanovich, JD Robb, and there was also a series where Jane Austen is the detective.
the Jane Austen detective series
I was thinking of mentioning those. Thanks for the reminder. They are very much fun reads.
Author is Stephanie Barron.
"Barron channels Jane Austen beautifully in this charming series...Austen fans, cozy lovers, and historical-mystery readers will all enjoy this delightful story."
—Booklist
Oops!
Thanks for clearing up Lindsay Davis' name. As I was writing that, I was trying to decide whether to include Lynda Robinson's Egyptian series, set in Tutankhamen's court, and the Robinson invaded where it shouldn't have. The charms of the other Egyptian mysteries have always eluded me. Like virtually all historical protagonists, Robinson's Lord Meren is ahistorically egalitarian in outlook, but otherwise the mindset and assumptions are convincing, and I picked up a lot on the Egyptian belief system. The series got weaker as it progressed, and then stopped, I think because it was headed towards the murder of Tutankhamen, and then more high tech examination of Tutankhamen's body showed that he almost certainly died of complications after an accident, and that kind of derailed where the series was going.
Hugh, when I finally launch this fershuggeneh upgrade
you will find UTF support ie Chinese characters.