bowers' mindbending "logic"

Z's picture

Good grief ...

http://openleft.com/diary/16520/the-poli...

If Progressives and progressives were to defeat the health care bill, it would provide an opening for the White House--which has repeatedly demonstrated its willingness to enter into primaries--to outflank progressive and Progressive candidates in primaries with more right-wing candidates. With the backing of the White House, those more right-wing candidates could argue against progressive and Progressive candidates who opposed the health care bill, and as a result win the liberal, Democratic rank and file that still overwhelmingly supports both the bill and the White House.

Z's interpretation: bowers to "open""left" followers: don't stand in the way of the obama white house's terrible health care legislation becoz we are not powerful enough to change it and the obama white house will take away our power ... to not change things ... by backing non-progressive candidates ... which they already do. Basically, the only way that the rahmbama team will tolerate progressives is if we have no power, so let's lay down our swords so that they don't take any power away from us.

Of course, there is no consideration as to the ramifications of this bill to the American people ... it is almost like progressive-ness is like a hobby or a board game with nothing at stake ...

Waiting for the rain to come ... Z

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basement angel's picture

Two Words

Stockholm Syndrome

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Z's picture

I might suggest that he personally benefits more ...

... than the people he tries to round up to join him in the cage. Z

Z

lambert's picture

This is good, too

Man oh man:

[T]he only solution I can think of right now is to sit out the remaining health care fight, not attack the progressives who are trying to defeat the health care bill, "hang out in the tall grass for a while" and look ahead to future fights. I know that is pretty dissatisfying, but it is the best I can think of right now.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

gqmartinez's picture

"the tall grass makes it hard to see beyond my property"

Bowers is from PA, right? There's a former and from PA that has a song that makes me think of what OL is saying these days.

Only tyrants rig elections.

Z's picture

By bowers' logic, what future fights ...

... can they "affect" that are against the interests of the democratic party and the obama administration when he concedes that his "progressive" base has no power within them. It is more or less a strategy of "lying in wait" anxiously looking for the opportunity to pop out from hiding to support the democratic party again ...

Come out, Chris ... you might as well get out from behind the high grass and put on your donkey outfit ... we can already see you ... Z

Z

Valhalla's picture

thanks for the interpretation

because I couldn't make anything of that paragraph at all.

Because the problem is not that we have too little condescension from our tribe. -- okanogen

Z's picture

It's hard to make sense when ...

... you are trying to avoid stating what you mean. Z

Z

letsgetitdone's picture

Please throw us in the briar patch

Now let's see if we successfully defeat this bill, the Administration will run right wing Dems in our safe progressive districts against progressives, who will blame them for defeating a bill that would have mandated their constituents to pay insurance companies for coverage that would have cost people up to 22% of their incomes each year, even after the subsidies were available, and which provided them no subsidies for the first four years after the bill was passed? Please throw us in that briar patch, Rahm. We can't wait.

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