Building a New Consensus

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[I think there are some important ideas here for the unterbussen "going forward," and so I'm going to leave it sticky for another day. --lambert]

Recently on Corrente there has been a discussion about how we can best recruit or build bridges with the disaffected elements of the right, commonly known as the tea partiers. I propose that we make efforts to build a left-centered new consensus that incorporates rightists, without trying to convert them over completely.

It is fairly unlikely that we will be able to "convert" significant elements of the right over to a whole heartedly leftist point of view. There are a variety of reasons for that, some of which have to do with personal temperament, and others which have to do with fundamental disagreements about values, what some would call moral values, or others would call ethical values, regardless these are basic differences. When I say consensus what I mean is a general shared system of core values, about which there can be some differences.

In the postwar era, there has been , or there was until it was broken by the Vietnam War, what was known as the bipartisan consensus. Democrats and Republicans agreed to pursue an interentionist anti-communist strategy overseas, with divergent social policies at home. And so in order to support this bipartisan consensus, Lyndon Johnson chose to continue to escalate the war in Southeast Asia, while nonetheless pursuing what might be characterized today as social democratic policies at home.

The reason that this is relevant is that there have been quite a number of discussions on Corrente regarding what we call the "very serious people" or the sphere of acceptable discourse. What I propose is that we create a new sphere of acceptable discourse. Now some people will say , gosh you're talking about excluding other people. The fact is there is always some kind of limit to any discourse. For example, I don't think it would be a controversial notion here that we should exclude the KKK.

What we really want is a new left-centered consensus. If some like David Brooks have said that the US is a center right nation, well then what we are looking for is to turn the United States into a left-centered nation. We can do that by creating a new center based around leftist ideas while understanding that many of our conservative brethren are always going to be conservative. They will always be opposed to gay marriage, to the removal of prayer from schools, to abortion, and they will have a variety of issues with, for example, increased government funding for the arts. There were the enormous culture wars in the 90s over things like the "Piss Christ" and all of these other artistic projects which were portrayed as violating good taste and common decency. And that may well be true. It may well be true that these things do violate a lot of people's norms. Enough with the exposition.

What I propose is that we have a new left centered discourse around bringing the FIRE sector to heel, and building a political economy that enriches and strengthens all Americans, an America that is more economically equitable, and produces a stronger and more vibrant economy that doesn't waste resources. Professor Bill Mitchell in Australia has been very eloquent in stating that when you have mass unemployment, those are human abilities going to waste. Those are people sitting at home who could be doing productive things. Worse yet, we are never going to get that time back. That's 40 hours a week something could be doing productive work.

We want to maximize the utilization of resources in our society, out of the efforts of humanity. We're not doing that right now.

How are we going to do that? As we've discussed, we want MMT. We want a political economy centered around an MMT understanding of our financial system. What that will do is remove the ability fo the financial elite to run the economy strictly for their benefit and not for the benefit of others. And then come things like ending the sale of Treasuries, national health care and a job guarantee. These things alone would do wonders at reversing the economic crisis in which we find ourselves.

Of course the other part of our new consensus would also be civil rights issues. There are many people in the Tea Party who are concerned about the TSA searching their stuff, grabbing their junk, zapping them with pornoscanners, and wiretapping. Many of the people who are fervent 2nd amendment supporters are concerned about these issues. I think they have hard time joining with us to articulate these concerns. Part of the problem is finding a way to explain to them how the rise of the military-industrial-financial complex has created these perverse incentives to drive the increasingly authoritarian nature of American life.

We want to reach out to the right and say we want MMT , which we want to use to break the back of the FIRE sector. We want this because it will give space for small businesses to thrive. We want to reign in the military industrial complex and the way it has led to TSA overreach and pornoscanners. We want a genuine multiparty system. We want something more than the two party monopoly. Why is a multiparty system a winner for the right wing? First of all, people could have a Christian party if they wanted. They have them in Europe and I don't see why we shouldn't have one here if that's what people want. That would also give a space for the hardcore atheist libertarians to have their own party. Many of them don't want to sit in the same party as a bunch of religious fundamentalists if they can avoid it. Naturally this would give a chance for the Green Party and socialists to be heard too.

Once we roll out this new consensus it makes it easier to reach across the aisle to the right and say look you're also being excluded from the discourse, you're also concerned about the FIRE sector, so join with us. Certainly you won't get everything you want. Some of them may say , cool, we like Warren Mosler, we like tax cuts, but we're kind of concerned about full employment. We can say, sure, I can see your point, but we think this is a way to break the back of the FIRE sector. And furthermore, if you say to people "we want to give you a job" , many of them will lunge for that. There are many people who are small business owners who are no longer able to profit from that, and they're looking for a day job. We can say to them look we'll pay 10 bucks an hour and you'll get national healthcare. So don't worry if you get hurt on the job or it turns out your kid has cystic fibrosis.

The tougher part are some of the cultural issues. I know there are a lot of people on the left who really want to see gay marriage legalized in all states. Well we may not be able to include that as part of the new consensus. It will remain contested. We may not be able to have arts funding to the degree that people want. But I think if we can agree on these economic issues, the other things will take care of themselves. Even though something like drug legalization might be subsumed under the reducing authoritarianism aspect, but it might be a tougher sell than decriminalization.

The real point of this new consensus is giving people something around which they can organize, and to understand that when we reach the point when we achieve our consensus goals, that politics as usual will begin again. People will then go back to vociferously arguing the cultural issues, and that's fair. But there isn't any point to having it out over these cultural issues when so many people are going hungry, food stamp usage is reaching record proportions, and so many people don't have jobs. Even graduate professional programs are finding that only one or two people out of hundreds have a job lined up at the termination of the program. These aren't acceptable outcomes, and if we want to do something about this, we will have to build a new consensus with others who may never fully agree with us, but nonetheless are willing to come aboard to successfully address the economic issues that are crippling the United States.

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letsgetitdone's picture

I completely agree

We should try this.

lambert's picture

Funny thing...

... I just sent off a long email on this topic. So POGM, and I bet others are thinking along the same lines.

Couple of very random thoughts because I'm going to bed:

1. The emergence and normalization of gay life if not of marriage is one of the great triumphs of this generation and it was achieved, moreover, without a militant wing (at least nothing like South Africa, say). Not to say things are perfect, as that will never be, but surely things are much, much better. If we want to learn from success, rather than complain about failure, that would be one place to begin.

2. I talk about rents all the time exactly because I want to break the back of the FIRE sector. If this is turned into a "lifestyle" change and adopted by millions, that's a big, big thing.

3. And we self-identify as... AbolitionISTs? ProhiitionISTs? I think that's half the problem, at least. We want to strike out on our own, but don't know what to call ourselves... I think this will emerge, and I don't think the thread needs to go down in the weeds on it, but at some point we really have to be enable people to say "I will ____ because _____ believe...." Trying to avoid tribalism, here.

Good things, thanks.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

Valhalla's picture

on #1

you're sort of skipping over ACT-UP, who were certainly considered militant by many in the 80s, but pushed a lot of the debate forward.

On the post, reaching out to those with common economic interests is a good idea, but:

1. you know, madwoman in the attic and all. Not really a "cultural" issue, like preferring the symphony to NASCAR on a Saturday night.

2. multiple parties -- there are structural obstacles to minority parties here versus in Europe. Just discussing that today.

3, not sure going for the Tea Party or "the right" is the best way to go, that's starting at the hard end. Ds in 2008 won over some significant part of the working class/"rest of us" by talking like, well, Democrats. It was just talk, of course, but people were into it. Easier and more effective to start with those: a) already somewhat like-minded; and b) not already fairly committed to an ideological opposite, in terms of economic policies.

4. rather than the "say look" approach, probably some mouth-shut hardcore listening is in order. That's part of real reaching out -- not assuming you understand "their" concerns first and pre-shaping the arguments to what you think you understand, but listening so you really do understan. Plus I'm not sure pressing the point that we need to break up the FIRE sector because it means we'll be "maximizing our resources." Being more "productive" is a goal of corporations, not people.

To madwoman, add cranky and tired. All in all, yes, common cause where it can be discovered is good, and lots of good points here.

Because the problem is not that we have too little condescension from our tribe. -- okanogen

votermom's picture

+1000 on this

That's part of real reaching out -- not assuming you understand "their" concerns first and pre-shaping the arguments to what you think you understand, but listening so you really do understan.

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wuming's picture

I probably should have been more precise

I understand that reproductive rights are important and I, obviously, support a woman's right to choose and so on. I classified it as a cultural issue because it's tied to the sexuality/purity discussions, and I don't see there being widespread agreement about those. Without me forking the thread too much, the rhetoric of feminist individual choice has been twisted to support oligarchic interests. Reproductive choice gives women more autonomy, this is unquestionable. However,those individual choices take place in the context of an overall economic system. My interest is in changing the overall economic system. In my conception of an inclusivist new consensus, those who advocate for reproductive rights could certainly continue to do so.

Re: multiple parties, I wasn't clear enough that what I am talking about is removing the structural/legal elements that keep a two party system in place. That may mean constitutional amendments at the federal and state level.

Actually regarding mouth-shut listening-- I have done a lot of that. I have more than a few friends who sympathize with the Tea Party. I worked blue collar jobs during high school and college so I got to meet a lot of right wingers. Also, I grew up participating in NRA sponsored shooting sports programs, and still go to the range occasionally. I've been an NRA member in the past. I get a chance to chat with people at gun counters pretty regularly. So, yes, I am confident that I do have a good idea what right wing populists think, because I often talk with them over our common sporting interest. As far as the "say, look" approach, I have found that people respond well when I listen, and then state a forceful opinion. People who work in blue collar jobs, on the right, or come from military and law enforcement, don't respond well to equivocation. They view it as a sign of weakness.

I hear you on the frustration. Reading the newspaper or watching the MSM is an exercise in frustration for me as well.

i know you don't mean to be

i know you don't mean to be revisionist, but...

otoh, i do realize you're talking about this year, or right now, and not about the various arcs of recent history.

lambert's picture

To repeat

The Stonewall Riots and ACT-UP-- and I really am not ignorant of this history, and lived through a good deal of it -- are in no way comparable to the armed wing of the African National Congress. I guess I need to work on my qualification and contextualization skills, because apparently "without a militant wing (at least nothing like South Africa, say)" failed to do the job, not once but twice.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

... "without a militant wing

... "without a militant wing (at least nothing like South Africa, say)" failed to do the job, not once but twice.

yes, it did.

wuming's picture

What about...

Inclusivist? It would give people the option of a second political identity. Even if they self identified already as a rightist/leftist/pastafarianist they could still take up the Inclusivisist flag.

When you said militant wing, I knew exactly what you meant. Umkhonto we Sizwe, the armed wing of the ANC. That's a pretty far cry from people chaining themselves to the railing at the NYSE.

votermom's picture

I love this, as long as we talk about CORRUPTION too

Every shiny idea is a pie in the sky if we don't think about how we handle corruption, crooks, bribery (aka lobby money) and people who are out to use any agenda to simply line their own pockets.

I have a feeling insisting absolutely on campaign finance reform and public financing of campaigns is essential.

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annabellep's picture

Absolutely

Reform as a concept needs to be resurrected.

votermom's picture

Disgusting example of corruption right here

Obama appoints GE's Immelt to head WH Jobs panel
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...

Very openly banana-republic style appointment.

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lambert's picture

Since consensus needs to be based on something...

... how about not promulgating idiotic lies for gain? (this connects directly to a college Dean not wishing to express an opinion on whether cows evolved to eat grass and not corn is exactly the kind of thing that needs to be destroyed. (Corn: New world. Cows: Old world...)

I guess where I'm going is two places:

1. Let's not make the assumption that we're putting together existing "blocks" of voters/constituents. The existing blocks are set up to make and keep us powerless! So we need to think about how to dissolve and re-assemble them. (Another way to putting this is that we experience a chaotic feeling outside the two legacy parties not because there is a structure we have not yet found, but because there is a structure it is up to us to invent.)

2. For that reason, I urge a strong focus on individual practice (like AA!). "We ____ don't ____ because ______ we _____. " "We don't make up Big Lies about cattle because...."

UPDATE Adding, I think the focus on personal practice would be attractive to the right. "Values," in fact.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

DCblogger's picture

I know from experience that MMT

appeals to many conservatives and even right wingers.

economic populism is a winner where i live

'conservatives' and tea partiers love socialism -- if you can talk about the policies without labeling them as such.

2/3 of conservatives i talk to love the idea of medicare for all. half of those love the idea of pure socialized medicine.

they love the idea of lots of good-paying govt jobs, as long as they've got a decent chance of getting one of those jobs.

they do worry about saddling their kids and grandkids with ginormous debt [because they've been told this for so long], but they still love social security.

they love the idea of govt guaranteeing that their bank won't go bust.

etc.

like valhalla, i'm not going to join any political party or movment or group that doesn't fully support reproductive rights, so i'm wondering what you mean exactly by 'consensus'.

i'm more than happy to talk to conservatives [and do the hard-core listening that valhalla mentions] and get them to thinking about [and maybe even liking] leftist ideas -- i live in a very republican part of the country, so it's not hard to find people to talk to. i'd be happy to work with any of them on pressuring congress and the white house on just the issues we have in common.

if by 'consensus', otoh, you're talking about the hard left and the hard right coming together to form the peoples populist party or something, i'm not so sure about that.

gqmartinez's picture

Irony, idn't it?

Conservatives loving socialism. But few Americans these days know what socialism is or means.

The right has spent a lot of time and money setting in place inaccurate stereotypes about liberalism. Once those fallacies are brought to light, there is actually a ton of overlap. Rather than "outreach" per se, I think the first step is combating the lies and distortions about liberalism. Hell, the legacy parties are getting by these days based on an equating of the Democratic Party with liberalism. You know the world is askew when Obama gets called a socialist for passing the Heritage Foundation's health insurance handout.

Getting beyond the word fogs and lies--a decades long, billion dollar conservative enterprise--is, to me, the very first step.

Only tyrants rig elections.

wuming's picture

Consensus

It's not the hard left and the hard right coming together to form a new political party. When I say consensus, I mean a common political values system that is in the background of other discussions. Right now the prevailing consensus is the neoliberal economic values system, along with some regard for freedom of speech and a few other elements of the bill of rights.

When I say new consensus I mean something that parties agree on , even as they have other disagreements. It definitely isn't a third party-- it's more like a social movement to change the entire character of the political system. In that sense it would be more like a temporary alliance. When the political movement successfully achieved it's goals (mmt, etc) then there would be no more need for the alliance. Does that make sense?

beowulf's picture

Fair Trade tax cut / Alaska-style annual dividend

Levy Institute plan to eliminate trade deficit and cut taxes is rather awesome. Its an iteration of Warren Buffett's import certificate plan that would have Tsy auction off ICs and use tariff revenue to allow for revenue-neutral payroll tax cuts (4.8 points of 12.4% SS tax, per Levy estimate).
http://www.levyinstitute.org/publication...

Alaska pays an annual dividend to every Alaskan. Just fill out the online form and your share of the oil loot hits your bank account on October 6.
http://www.pfd.state.ak.us/

Florida businessman John H. Perry, Jr. (now deceased) lobbied Congress for a similar plan on a national scale. Perry suggested using corporate income tax revenue to fund a national dividend payable to every registered voter (we're through the looking glass people, excluding kids, felons and noncitizens is a feature, not a bug).

I'd add to that revenue, ($150 billion, all numbers here are annual) the taxes recovered from tightening tax code to collect corporate revenue that's parked offshore ($123 billion in lost taxes per Tsy estimate) plus the $78 billion in Federal Reserve profits, after all, everybody hates the Fed. To take it to the next level, allocate savings from budgets cuts to the national dividend (say, the $120 billion that the liberal USPIRG and conservative NTU agreed on). There's also the $100 billion lost, per David Cay Johnston, by allowing corporate officers to defer income over and above the 401(lk) limit. Of course this list could be expanded in any way, especially if revenue from all (or, say, 50%) future spending cuts or tax hikes must go towards the dividend trust fund. Lets add up the above numbers:

$571 billion divided by 168 million registered voters, on October 6 (to follow Sarah Palin's shining example to the letter), every voter is wired $3,398.81. The per-voter amount goes up if the payout is limited to voters in most recent congressional election (90 million in 2010, so $5777.44), I leave it to the reader to determine which groups would be then be most incentivized into voting. The beauty of a national dividend is it easily makes any tax cut (or spending hike) a binary choice... cut estate tax (or increase farm subsidies) or allocate the same dollar amount to the national dividend.

There's one feature of the Alaska permanent fund dividend worth pointing out, the state gives citizens a choice of allocating a portion or all of their dividend share to charity instead. After all, any conservative will tell you that nonprofits should take the lead in addressing social problems. Knock yourself out. http://www.pickclickgive.org/index.cfm/about-the-program

lambert's picture

That "permanent fund" idea is worth a post

In fact, all this is worth a post.

What are a country's resources? What is in the land? Or the people?

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

annabellep's picture

A very interesting read

I'd like to see more of this. Adding to your excellent ideas, what I think we also need (and by we I mean people who would like to see a return to our national values of consensus-building and compromise) are specific policy points that we can present in a non-partisan manner.

For example, I was talking to a long-time conservative friend yesterday who was saying he realized something had to be done about health care, but he couldn't stomach the mandate. He didn't care, he's a vet and pays for supplemental insurance, but he didn't think it was fair to make people pay an industry when that has really never been done on the national level before. He wished for a compromise. This vet told me he wished the health care plan had been a plan to combine and expand veteran health services and medicare/medicaid and allow people to buy into that system. I looked at him and said, "You realize you just wished for a kind of public option, right?" He was floored. But he conceded it. There is a way.

Thanks for the thoughtful read! I'm going to Facebook this one.

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