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If you have "no place to go," come here!

Call (202) 224-6472, and say: "Hi, is this the number I call to get retroactive immunity for my past illegal acts?"

That's Senator Jay Rockefeller's office. He's the weak-chinned author of the abomination that gives the telcos retroactive immunity for their lawbreaking under Dear Leader's warrantless surveillance program.

They'll just hang up on you, but you'll have made your point.

Be polite, even though Rockefeller is a hopeless loser and a bought-and-paid-for shill.

Oh, and if you actually have a conversation, feel free to write it up in comments.

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Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

Another travesty by this yellow bellied low life scum of a congress!
Every one of these bastards needs to be out of office! Please make sure they do not return for another term.
Everybody please watch the video of Naomi Wolf at the University of Washington now on DemocraticUnderground.com. VERY enlightening.

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

Naomi Wolf seems to be getting a lot of free PR from people substituting her name for NAOMI KLEIN.

No wonder Klein's *The Shock Doctrine* is on the bestseller list of every Western country except the USA.

http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

I called but was put on ignore. I could not afford to hang on the phone all day and since congress already caved in to the 24%er, I decided screw it.

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

yay, i called, got put on a boring hold for a minute or two, and spoke to a polite gentleman, who happily offered to put me onto an email list. =)

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

Perhaps the proper approach to get retroactive immunity is large campaign contributions, private "research" junkets, and the occasional brown envelope under the table.

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I thought retroactive immunity is specifically prohibited in the constitution...

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

sorry, you're wrong. it basically says, in ridiculous lay speak "if something wasn't illegal when you did it, it can't be made into a law and then you get charged for it."

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

Retroactive immunity is not mentioned in the Constitiution. What is prohibited is ex post facto law. That is a law that is passed and then applied to an action it prohibits that occured prior to the passing of the law.

Submitted by lambert on

Snicker.

We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

Now the question is, what are you pussies going to do about it? You see it starting to happen. Your eyes have finally begun to crack open. So now are going to sit back and let it continue, or are you going to take the power back? You're the one that has to look yourself in the mirror. I know what I'm going to do.

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

Got put on hold :(

Article 1, section 9.3 prohibits ex post facto laws, but this usually only held to apply to retroactive criminalization. This section also mandates trials for the accused.

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

wow, the reply system sucks. that last post was me, replying to a post waaaaaaay up at the top.

Submitted by lambert on

The hamsters get tired. I threw them some kibble, and perhaps things improved.

We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

Just left a message with that quote. Now I await my reply.

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

Yeah, i left a message and should hear back from them in a few...................

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

Hey, I'm a senior citizen, and haven't violated all that many laws... that I can remember! Think this will get me a cheaper rate?

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

As a Rockefeller constituent, let me apologize for the Senator's lack of common sense, and rule of law.

Oh, and also for supporting the Military Commissions Act too.

I guess his idea of being 'tough' is to roll-over and pee on himself. Useless git.

Submitted by lambert on

If they're not widdling themselves, they're humping Bush's leg.

Ick.

We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

I called and his mailbox was full. Should I try again later?

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

oops. J Rockafeller's email voice box is full. Guess I'll have to try again tomorrow...

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

You Can Text The Number Still. Who Needs Voicemail?

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

When you are addressing politicians, you should actually write them. State the subject you are writing about, state your problem with it, and state your opinion on how it should be handled. Be rational, consice, and polite. Also include your name, state, and county or residence.

Why write? Because by law they have to keep it on file, and after receiving a certain amount of letters they actually have to formally act on it. Be polite because you don't want to give themm a reason to reject the letter, or treat it as hostile.

A simple google search will get you the office address. Now, send him a torrent of letters :)

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

They can have an unpaid intern answer phone calls when they get hit by a torrent like this. They can treat emails like spam and probably have a secretary who does nothing else but hit the "X" to delete. They do not, and indeed as this AC (AC! Come back, sign in, pick a nym, we need you...go by "Shane" if you can't think of anything else) points out, they cannot ignore an actual letter on paper.

You know the most insidious and least noted aspect of the Great Congressional Anthrax Attack, which, amazingly enough, is never mentioned by the "Bush is Great Because We Haven't Had Another Terrorist Attack Since 9-11" crowd?

The impression that everybody seems to have that there is no point in sending an actual physical on-paper letter to a senator or congressperson because they will never receive it due to all the chemical tests it has to go through.

I don't think that is the case any more and strongly suspect it never was, or if so was only in effect for a very short time after the said anthrax attack. It doesn't make any sense that elected officials would be shut off from receiving physical letters from the US Postal Service.

And if you really think that's the case, send the damn letter via UPS or FedEx or something. No damn way they won't get that.

Submitted by lambert on

You deked him.

Now the idea is in his mind. That's what we want.

Well propagated sir!

We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

Hey, I have an idea..
Vote for Ron Paul
-lets restore our constitution!
and while we're talking about unconstitutional acts
fuck the federal income tax
fuck the fact that we havent officially declared war (we've just attacked countries) since WWII
fuck net neutrality
fuck the feds in general

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

Had to leave a msg. Don't think I'll get a call back.

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

My neighbor called 15 minutes ago and a nice looking van pulled up to his curb. The nice looking gentleman told my other neighbor that Jerry is 'going on a nice vacation' and we should not expect Jerry to be back until 2039.

The argument from constitutionality doesn't work. As has been pointed out, the Constitution forbids retroactive criminalization of conduct, not amnesty for crimes committed in the past. If it did so, things like presidential and gubernatorial pardons would be manifestly unconstitutional. What's really offensive about this case is that the pardonee is a corporation that's obviously simply bought and paid for its own pardon.

As for whether or not you should write, I tend to hold with those who say that using the channels that the establishment approves to effect change in the establishment is pointless.

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I was put on hold 45 minutes ago....

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heh i just got told no its not the right number.... so i asked if it would be the right number if i was a telco.. they then promptly hung up :>

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

As an IRA arms supplier I really need this before the miserable limeys get their hands on me!! Please Mr. Rockyfeller Please give me immunity too!

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"As for whether or not you should write, I tend to hold with those who say that using the channels that the establishment approves to effect change in the establishment is pointless."

With a capital P. Some call it moving the chairs around on the Titanic... which is how this election feels too, since Kuc and Dodd dropped out. Damn, we actually had some candidates willing to stand up to the bastards, Now Kuc is fighting to be able to run for Congress again. He's been targeted by the big boys he would have put out of business. Donate to his congressional re-election campaign if you can. He deserves our help.

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