Senate Intelligence Committee
Beyond Orwell: Ellsberg, Greenwald, Drake, Rowley, Radack and McGovern panel at Georgetown, April 22, 2014 - transcript
Other Scott Horton: ...the command post is calling, asking over and over again, “Is he dead yet?”
Other Scott Horton: Well, and conversely, Dianne Feinstein in the speech she gave, she said, you know, “This is a death of the republic sort of issue.” And that may sound melodramatic. It’s absolutely correct. Writers about these issues going back to people like Max Weber writing at the end of World War I, he said basically the test of whether a republic stands up in the modern age includes whether the Parliament, whether Congress exercises mastery over state secrecy. If they don’t do that, and then they don’t perform or discharge their oversight function, you’re not a democratic form of government. That’s the bottom line here.
Podcast here, transcript below the fold. Read more about Scott Horton interviews The Other Scott Horton on the White-House-CIA-torture-and-homicide complex
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Well, it's the CIA. McClatchy's Jonathan Landay looks back on recent reporting on the CIA torture report and other things in this interview from April 11. Podcast here, transcript below the fold. Read more about Jonathan Landay on the CIA torture report; April 11 interview
Marcy Wheeler: I think that the people close to Cheney, they’re going to double down. John Rizzo, going to double down. Jose Rodriguez, they’re going to double down. And the reason they can do that is because the press is not going to hold them to account... I mean, that’s what happened the last time, and I do think that the people who really stake their reputation on torture aren’t going to back down. Because partly they can’t legally. Cheney should go down as a war criminal, but he’s going to do what he can to avoid getting that reputation, at least while he’s still alive.
More between Marcy and Scott on the CIA torture report – another transcript that I'm late posting; this one from April 4. Podcast here. Earlier interview here. Read more about Lies and consequences - Marcy Wheeler interviewed on the CIA torture report, cont'd
From Craig Murray in the UK:
Marcy Wheeler last month on CIA torture, comedic Senate oversight, and the presidential authorization for torture that we are not supposed to know about
Marcy Wheeler: If nothing else it demonstrates how ridiculous our oversight system is. Because here you have the people who are supposed to be overseen, who can make this case to avoid being overseen and it’s treated credibly... The point of fact is they’re trying to stall this torture report that shows that the torture didn’t work and they lied about it not working.
Scott Horton: Although, we’ve got to be careful how we define work, because I think...it does work perfectly when you’re trying to torture someone into pretending that Saddam Hussein taught him and his Al Qaeda buddies how to make chemical weapons.
Marcy Wheeler: Works like a charm if you’re trying to get detainees to say what you want. And that I think is the big secret, and I think that is the reason why ultimately Obama is offering a fair amount of protection to CIA, because the executive branch and the CIA like having this make-up-lies cover and they protect each other that way.
Also, published 3/13/14 at The Intercept: The White House Has Been Covering Up the Presidency’s Role in Torture for Years, by Marcy Wheeler. Read more about Marcy Wheeler last month on CIA torture, comedic Senate oversight, and the presidential authorization for torture that we are not supposed to know about
It comes as no surprise to at least some citizens that the CIA is an intelligence agency that operates outside US law and defies congressional oversight. Interestingly this week, one of its strongest and most consistent apologists, Senator Dianne Feinstein, has outrightly charged the CIA with perpetrating criminal behaviors.
Joseph Kishore and Barry Grey in “high crimes and misdemeanors” write: Read more about CIA Criminality Grounds for Impeachment
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