It's not clear to me what accusation myiq is making, here.
Which is the real reason I don't read the Confluence much: The quality of the writing. There's very little there I can't get elsewhere from more authoritative sources, and I don't have time to wade through the bad writing to figure out what the point is and get to whatever's good. It's a shame. But, to each their own, and good luck to them all!
Hillary's 18 million really do deserve some representation, though. Me, I think the way to get that done is to post a whole lot on policy issues, like health care and finance, and fielding grenades lobbed over the wall at me from other random blogs is not what I'd prefer to be doing. I'm sure Avedon feels the same way.
UPDATE If you want to read something thought-provoking and informed on Palin, try Reclusive Leftist. I have no trust for "progressives" on Palin -- and WKJM
seems to have turned TPM into a Palin tabloid, way to go on priorities, there, Josh -- but I have no trust for the Conservatives either, let alone our famously free press. I imagine it will all sort itself out at some point. "Haunted Vagina" or not, in myiq's subtly hilarious formulation.
UPDATE Welcome, Confluence readers. For Confluence posters: It's pretty simple: Live and let live. Don't lob grenades over the wall at Corrente, and another grenade won't get lobbed back over the wall at you. And if it takes your posters this long to decide to play dumb... Good luck to you.


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Well, myiq has actually referred
to his sociopathic tendencies, so you shouldn't be surprised. One of the things I have learned in life is that if someone tells you they have a mental illness, you should believe them. He elects to go after people in a very arbitrary fashion. I have no idea why Riverdaugher puts up with him.
"Someone needs to point out that elephants produce infinitely more shit than donkeys." Brad Mays
Need a link on that...
... and even so, I'm not sure that's relevant, because I'm going after the quality of the writing, not the character of the person (not knowable, eh?)
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
I recall him being one of the one or two
commenters on Balloon Juice last year who never backed down on calling out Hillary haters. There was a tremendous amount of acrimony, much of it unreadable. So for his willingness to fight back he gets a pass from me.
Pugnaciousness necessary...
... but not, in my mind, sufficient for a pass. Even for people wearing my jersey -- if I happen to be wearing a jersey (and the primariez made me pretty suspicious of that).
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
I'm looking for the link but don't remember
where I saw it. I think it may well have been in the comments somewhere and since been deleted. My point in mentioning it, is that sociopaths are disruptive. The reason for an attack may simply be to attack, whether there are grounds for it or not. He may not have a point but instead, a desire to foster more division.
"Someone needs to point out that elephants produce infinitely more shit than donkeys." Brad Mays
I just wish Hillary's advice had been followed: She said when
Palin was nominated as VP that her personality and family should be off limits, but her policies were absolutely to be analyzed and criticized.
Too many Dems just couldn't do that. Sheesh.
I can also understand the anger about the tendency among some lefties to be extremely mysognyistic. I still feel creeped out about the things that used to be (perhaps still are) written about Liddy Dole's vagina. Some thought that the height ot cleverness.
And that treatment of women spread from rightwingers and Repubs to Dem women, especially Hillary. Hillary saw that as a stupid move politically and tactically. If our strategy is to bring people to understand and support our policies and principles, bad way to go about it.
Plus, one of the principles of the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party is to treat people as individuals, due respect and human rights. Kind of a respect the person's rights, but not their stupid beliefs, policies, principles. The kind of stupid attack on Palin undermined that principle.
But, c'mon! Palin's principles? Policies? Not something we can support. Well, I can't support.
That's why I went for the Dominionist angle
But IIRC, that got beaten up pretty good in comments. But sweet Jeebus, you'd think our "progressives" could have actually attacked from a progressive stance, instead of a attacking a Downs Syndrome baby!
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Didn't you get the memo?
Progressives are all about teh Pentecostals, now.
Well. it's one thing to be crazy
And another to be batshit insane!
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
maybe true
but which is crazy and which is batshit insane. I seem to remember a whole set of posts here about Hillary being a crazy Dominionist. Or did I misread those?
weren't they done by dog(something)? I'd be more specific but i try not to remember those I would sooner forget.
Craziness...
1. Re: Hillary. She belonged to a very unsavory prayer group (though unsavory while within Versailles
guidelines).
2. Re: DogEmperor's on Palin as a Dominionist. I don't think the thesis gelled, and it all got taken apart in comments.
Honestly, there's absolutely nobody I trust to write about Palin (except maybe Anglachel -- and even she has to rely on sourcing she doesn't control). I mean, I used to trust the New Yorker, and then Hendryk Herzberg started sucking up to Obama, and soon fandom was everywhere. So, I read their profile of Palin with a dose of salts.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
oh that fits
I've read so much junk I can't think straight anymore half the time.
At any rate, keep giving the bloodsucking insurance companies hell. That's why I come here because I trust you guys on that more than anyone. Don't back off and keep the faith!
jawbone, I got hauled over the coals for mentioning her
*policy* of not obeying laws designed to protect her children. Some thought that the demonization the OFB
visited upon Hillary meant that *no* mention of Palin's behavior -- not her family, but her "laws for thee but not for me" *behavior* -- could be anything but misogyny.
Later, a post I wrote about stupid-looking shoes was construed to be another attack on Sarah Palin.
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18
not obeying the laws meant to protect children
this doesn't look like a *policy* of disobeying laws, it looks like an isolated incident.
oh, hipparchia, but if it were only the car seat --
there's the subpoena Todd ignored. This made Greenwald's hit list too.
there's getting her ex-brother-in-law fired from his job as an Alaska state trooper.
there's the barb she flung at Hillary Clinton about "plowing through" unfriendly media.
there's the house / sports arena / sub-rosa donations.
there's the GOP-AK version of travelgate.
there's the car seat, yeah, but then there's the story that she stuck around in Texas to address a GOP governors' meeting while in labor with her youngest child. There's the public hot-potato passing-the-baby-around during the GOP convention.
Pattern of behavior, maybe?
And if it had been anybody else, would the car seat thing rate a pass?
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18
ok, we can talk about troopergate if you like
because holding a baby in your arms as you're driven around a prison complex is waaaaay worse than tasering a kid so he can see what it's like or knocking a woman to the ground while she's holding a baby in her arms.
yeah, she's a done a heckuva lot of things you disapprove of. i don't have a problem with your disliking her because she's got a history of doing stuff you disapprove of, or even if you characterize it as a history of continually flauting the law. i do have a problem with your saying that she routinely breaks laws that are specifically meant to protect children, which is what you originally said.
i don't have any kids of my own, so i won't judge the 'in labor' controversy or the 'taking the baby to the convention' controversy. i can tell you, however, that what i read/heard about the handing around at the convention was that this was inappropriate because he's handicapped, with the implication being that it was a normal amount of handing around had he been a normal baby. newsflash: down syndrome babies are not breakable objects, they're just babies [yes, some of them do have very fragile physical health from day one, but it's not a given].
i have no clue what britney spears did so i can't comment on that comparison.
she apparently made a lot of enemies in the republican good ol boys club that had been alaskan politics until she came along. my own personal policy is that i'm taking everything anybody on any side of any question involving sarah palin says with a huge grain of salt. and furthermore, i plan to go back to ignoring the palin family completely.
sounds like a plan
Down's syndrome babies, though, have certain conditions that makes handling them the way you would any other baby much riskier. Among these is a tendency to poor neck muscle tone / development, which increases the risk of cervical spine injuries. It's recommended to keep Down's babies in rearward-facing car seats, for example, as long as possible rather than to the 30-35 lb. cutoff with non-Down's babies, as well as possibly turning off passenger airbags for persons with Down's and related atlantotaxial insufficiency:
.
So even on a remote road at a low speed, the risk to the child was sufficient to make considering the law inconvenient and therefore disregardable is a big argument against this woman, whether I like her or not. A five-month-old child is not a football, and shouldn't be handled as carelessly as if s/he were.
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18
from your first link:
so, no, if his muscle tone [ligament strength, etc] is normal or near normal, he's at no appreciably greater risk than any other child.
hehe, car seats. at our last family get together mom and dad, as we were all taking a hand in buckling my brother's kids into their fancy car seats, remarked on how times change and how there was no such thing back when my brother and i were kids and how they drove blithely around mexico and the western us [at texas highway speeds] with us kids crawling all over the car. in fact, i think the car they had when we were preschool age didn't even have seat belts.
Also, your concern over her delivery schedule
Puts you in the same camp with Andrew Sullivan, who devoted an entire column to concern trolling Palin's delivery choices. Which is key to me. Choices.
It is an easy trap for women to fall into, I think, where we judge women for their "women's choices", because they are choices we have faced ourselves. Like how to deliver our children. Many people disagree with home birthers, and usually always under "concern" for the babies, though research shows it is no more dangerous than a hospital birth.
We look at mother's and say, "I wouldn't do that to my kids" whether it is exposing them to the national spotlight as a politician's child, a child beauty queen or actor, or not making them wear a helmet.
But passing judgement like that on women, as women, is still the same old patriarchy, and is still about holding women to a different standard as men.
He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave.
- Sir William Drummond
IMHO, gender was a factor but not THE factor
Basically, anyone who stood in the way of the O juggernaut was going to be destroyed by whatever means were handy. It's not a reflection on the merit of those who stood in his way to acknowledge that fact.
It was a big factor in getting feminists
To let loose the dogs of war so to speak. And the attacks wouldn't have been as successful if the target wasn't a woman.
So no it wasn't THE factor on the part of many of the attackers, but it determined how she was attacked, and how so many feminists went along with it.
He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave.
- Sir William Drummond
PDS was mostly a sideshow
Especially after the Big FAIL hit the fan. The election was over, but the infinite-minutes-hate machine was so well-oiled at that time, no one could be bothered to ratchet down the manufacture of truthiness and slander, even when the target was selling a product in historic disrepute (Barack, for his part, did his best to frame the Reaganites as worthy partners in governance, so McCain / Palin did have that going for them).
A sideshow except for the very real damage done to women
n/t
He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave.
- Sir William Drummond
Really?
Greater than the damage done by lack of health care and a new Depression? I doubt it.
Where, oh where, can I find a finance feminist?
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Yoo-hoo!
[waves]
---------------
We can't afford not to have single-payer!
Excellent
Then let's go at it! More perspective, please. I'm so anxious to get on to something systemic and not personality-driven I could scream.
NOTE I'm not looking so much for a feminist that does finance; I'm looking for finance from a feminist perspective. I can see the "Goldman Sachs are Jews" thing coming a mile off, and the left had better line up its own critique on finance tout suite. And the 20th Century isn't exactly replete with real world examples of how that was done with the analytical tools that I'm aware of, and there are a lot of horrific exampes of left FAIL, so I think the field is ripe for something new.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
I didn't say greater
I just said it caused damage. It was a sideshow that distracted for the very real problems, and yes those problem hurt women as well. But so did the media treatment of Palin, and that damage isn't just to our pocketbooks and families.
He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave.
- Sir William Drummond
You would think
that just being from the bat shit insane (i.e. Michele Bachmann) wing of the Republican party would be enough of an argument against Palin. (Well, you would think that anyway*). But there had been plenty of other legitimate things to use against her.
But now primarily, I'm with Pat Lang, people would be just as willing to vote for a woman ("haunted vagina" or not) as they were for Obama, but they won't vote for a quitter and a weakling, and Palin has proven herself both with this move.
Oh, and plus she is bat shit insane.
* The following was copied from a horribly bad RW site, but one that captured the following post at Huffington Post before it was pulled. I copied it in order to not propogate the link.
The link to Erik's apology, for the piece (proof that it existed!).
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Sorry, I don't fall in love with politicians. I'm not that desperate.....
Thanks for the link to Anglachel
I had forgotten this magisterial takedown. Anglachel always gets the class angle of all this; not that who gets thrown under the bus, or herded into a public option ghetto, has anything to do with that, of course.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
magisterial takedown of whom, lambert? anglachel lambasts
the boiz of left blogistan for their apparent inability to tell Sarah Palin, who was, as Anglachel said, by damn a governor who earned her title and should get it used out of respect, from "working class" and "Southern" and "white" and "trailer trash."
Sarah Palin, back in Alaska and left to her own devices, chose to quit that job as governor. Not even three-quarters' through her (first and, please Ceiling Cat, FSM and all the gods, ONLY) term.
I don't care how many kids Palin mère et fille produce, in what state of wedlock or otherwise.
How she treats those children once they're born, how she conducts official business (mayor, governor, vp candidate) and treats fellow citizens, what policies she espouses on a citywide (rape kits), statewide (dumping toxic fill in a lake in a national wildlife reserve; drill baby drill, mine baby mine) or nationwide (drill baby drill, mine baby mine, endless war overseas) basis, and how she represents the constitutency who (insensibly or not) elected her -- that's what matters.
Palin failed. Largely through her own choices and missteps. Let her go in peace if she can; if she can't, get her minor children into decent care.
Don't mistake the arguments about Palin's behavior, experience, and unfitness for the office John McCain -- apparently on the spur of the moment and with about 30 hot seconds' work vetting -- chose her to run for as his ticket mate with the hogwash poured over Hillary Clinton from every other candidate (and still poured over her today among the Limbaugh class) in the Democratic primaries, not to mention the Republican presidential hopefuls, class of 2008/12. The difference is night and day. Palin really *was* unprepared, unready, inexperienced, and unfit.
Hillary Clinton was and is no such thing.
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18
Sarah - the rape kit story is a smear.
What was happening around the nation is that hospitals were billing for rape kits - as they will bill for anything that they can make money on. When the insurance industry wouldn't pay for the kit, the hospitals were billing the patient. Alaska was trying to pass a law that would make it illegal for hospitals to do that. The police chief in Wasilla was objecting to his tiny department, with its tiny budget, having to purchase the kits. He was NOT advocating for the patients being billed. Indeed, most states now cover the cost of the kits because it is problematic for small law enforcement agencies all over the nation. The testimony FOR the bill in the Alaska legislature stated for the record that there were no complaints of police departments billing for the kits, only the hospitals. And the hospitals weren't consulting with the police on this, they were simply doing it. There is no account of any victim in Wasilla ever having been charged for a rape kit, nor do the city financial records show anyone ever having been billed or a check having been received. No rape victim in Wasilla was ever billed for a rape kit while Palin was mayor; nor was her administration in favor of them being billed. Her police chief, like police chiefs all over the nation, was opposed to the cost being taken from his budget. That's it - that's the whole story.
As Clinton demonstrated, it's very easy to hurl mud at any politician. While I can't believe I'm defending a Republican again, the fact remains that she has been cleared in 15 ethics investigation so far and that is significant. If we want to belong to the reality based community, then that matters.
I'm not sure that Obama is smarter than her, cleaner than her, more competent than she is or even to the left of her. To this day, I don't know which was the lesser of two evils in our last presidential election and that's why I didn't vote for either of them.
But just as I moved aggressively to clear up the bullshit around Obama's Hawaiian birth, I'll take a stand here as well.
"Someone needs to point out that elephants produce infinitely more shit than donkeys." Brad Mays
thanks for this
at the time that it was first going around i tried to explain some of this, but you've done a much better job of it. also, i didn't quite have all my information straight back then, so i learned some more about the topic this time around. and because it is such an important topic, i thank you again.
i'm with you on the defending republicans. heck, i even voted for one.
Basement angel: what's that? A smear, you say? A fact, say I.
The story holds up.
From the 20-year-old blogger who actually researched the story and reported the facts
And while that policy was in effect, Palin was mayor, and Palin approved the town budget. In 2000, though, that practice was deemed so offensive that the Republican-leaning Alaska Legislature stepped in and quickly passed a law so that towns like Wasilla could not charge victims.
And guess what? That's all still true.
to the "uncertain" billing given the story at FactCheck.org, the facts remain: Palin's hand-picked police chief submitted a budget shorn of the line item for paying for rape kits.
And Sarah Palin herself gives a classic non-denial denial (also from mediamatters, linked above):
Jezebel has more.
I don't think it's a smear.
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18
all the wasilla budgets while palin was mayor
here.
let me know when you find the rape kits.
Again, the hospitals were billing the victims.
The bills didn't even get to the police department. Not one minute of legislative testimony singled out Wasilla (that's for the record and anyone who says otherwise is lying). The bill was to prevent hospitals passing the charge along to patient's insurance companies and then to patients when their insurance wouldn't pay.
Here is the minutes of the testimony that is online:
What was happening was that the bills for the rape kits were never even reaching the police departments because the hospitals used it as a profit device. Again, the police chief was objecting to a chunk of money being removed from his budget that he felt he couldn't afford. Most states provide small communities with funding for expensive criminal procedures so that victims aren't hurt by budget shortfalls.
And here is what the city of Wasilla says for the record.
Here is the Slate article on the smear.
And here is an article from NRO debunking the whole story as well.
So, in summary, no testimony indicated that there were problems in Wasilla. No journalist has found a victim in Wasilla who was billed. The city can find no record that a victim or a victim's insurance company was billed by the police department. So, Sarah, this is a smear, pure and simple. And it's a smear that exploits rape victims. You're better than this. Don't defend this garbage.
"Someone needs to point out that elephants produce infinitely more shit than donkeys." Brad Mays
I just read Boehlert's article again.
This is where the story falls apart:
In order for him to be accurate, he must prove - and he doesn't - that the police department instructed the hospitals to bill the patients. There is no evidence of that. There is plenty of testimony in front of the legislature about hospitals billing victims and their insurance companies, but not one word of testimony that the police arranged for. In fact, the only testimony about it, recounts it as an "internal" decision that is made by the hospital.
When you find evidence that someone was, in fact, billed and that the police requested that the hospital bill the patient, you'll have something. Until then, it is a smear. And it is a smear that exploits rape victims for partisan purposes.
"Someone needs to point out that elephants produce infinitely more shit than donkeys." Brad Mays
Don't forget that many other stateshad that same policy
Illinois included. While our current president was a state legislator. Why don't you scream at him about too, or are you only going to hold Palin responsible?
That's another thing that made this attack so sexist, is that there are 100's of politicans in this country that are connected to similiar laws, and it never made a stink before. So why the double standard? The only discernable reason was the fact that's she's a woman.
He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave.
- Sir William Drummond
Haven't we gone after Obama?
For abortion rights and women's rights issues? Not to go all "reality"-based on you, but just sayin'....
Sorry, just because followed (or didn't negate) the same bad policy as other places surely doesn't make her good, it just means she's as bad as the rest, right?
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Sorry, I don't fall in love with politicians. I'm not that desperate.....
But the vitriol was unwarranted
Because no, feminsists en masse(not Corrente, we were fair and just in how we went after Palin), didn't go after Obama for tacitly supporting the same policy. That's what I'm calling out. It's the double standard that gets me.
Yes Corrente went after Obama for these inconsistencies, but many feminists did give the Big O a pass during the election, and we are paying for it now, in how we can't even confirm that Sotomayor is pro-choice before she is confirmed.
So yeah, following the same bad policy as other politicians, makes her just as bad(an idea I totally get behind, I don't defend Palin because I support her policies, I defend Palin because that's how feminism works. We are supposed to defend all women from unfair, sexist attacks). But if she's "just as bad" why did we treat her as if she was so much worse?
He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave.
- Sir William Drummond
And perhaps the way humanism works is...
... defending all people from unfair attacks.
I'll get right on that
As soon as men give up the unfair and unjust control of the world.
He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave.
- Sir William Drummond
FWIW, I would argue...
... that your point of attack is here. This is how the patriarchs climb to the top of the greasy pole.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
lovely
This is from the Newsweek link and if it's the best condemnation you've got then bless your little heart for trying.
"Alan Jacobs, a professor at Wheaton College, thinks that if Palin went to an evangelical church in some well-heeled suburb, "and named her kids what she named her kids" Plus, of course, a pastor for an evangelical church preaches that those who aren't saved will go to Hell and the Sun rises in the East.
That's really disturbing all right. Almost as disturbing as anglachel's take on the awful misogyny used against Palin and Willie Brown's glowing evaluation of her convention speech.
I don't what the fact that some asshole posted a POS story attacking a Down's Syndrome baby to get at Palin has to do with her, except it shows that real assholes hate her. They also either have no fucking idea or don't care what their stupid shit does to people in the real world with handicapped relatives or friends.
Indeed!
"... Some real assholes hate her." That's about right.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
You miss my point ralphb
Which completely agrees with your last paragraph, although the fact that there were an awful lot of real assholes who love her* doesn't help.
But, y'know what else? There isn't one damn reason in the world I would want Sarah Palin as the next president, no matter what her gender. In fact there are hundreds of reasons why I wouldn't, none of which have to do with her kids, or her gender, or the "glowing" evaluation Willie Brown gave of her political skill in her convention speech.
Let's start with that she's a liar. But, yeah, there's more. Feministing has even more if you are interested, and none of it has to do with her kids, or her gender, or that she was a former beauty queen.
Actually, I should have said "had" more, since Palin is now toast. Three day old toast. She is a quitter, and nobody is going to vote for a quitter for president of the United States.
*for her policies!
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Sorry, I don't fall in love with politicians. I'm not that desperate.....
I don't understand the hate, either.
But I imagine class issues have a lot to do with it. That said, she reminds me of a lot of the many right-wing Republicans I have known. Her ideology is a hybrid of Christianist
ideology, common sense and sheer uninformed insanity, and you never know which is going to come out when she opens her mouth.
I've always said that you have to be crazy to be a successful politician - but you have to be crazy in a specific way. You have to be a master of certain types of cognitive dissonance, you have to turn empathy on and off like a spigot. But she's crazy in an uncontrolled way, and that's not good.
Most unforgivable for a politician, she's terribly undisciplined. In her case, I can understand. Even being a governor didn't prepare her for a national stage - in a state as sparsely populated as Alaska (one-third the population of Philadelphia, for instance), her experience isn't very deep and she seems uninterested in mastering the kind of policy details that make a successful politician.
She's a Republican. They don't need to master
policy details. Reagan, their favorite president, had Alzheimers and half way through his first term, didn't know where he was or who he was talking to. Bush Jr, well, is an imbecile. Palin is a massive step to the left, and up the IQ ladder from either of them.
The Dems had no business attacking Palin in 08 on her lack of experience when we had nominated Obama, who had even less relevant experience. I'm not voting for a Republican but I found that embarrassing.
The interviews we saw with her were deeply edited by a press corps hostile to the ticket. We don't know how her command of the issues shapes up to what we expect of Republicans in this nation. I'm going to bet she's likely better than most of the conservatives on the subject. But we won't know until she starts doing live interviews so we can hear her whole answer.
"Someone needs to point out that elephants produce infinitely more shit than donkeys." Brad Mays
The whole thing was like the boy who cried
"helicopter-hunting of wolves."
The amount of fake and hyped criticism of Palin coming from the left was an embarrassment, and it made it hard to know what % of the criticism was worth believing.
It was clear that we simply had to hate her, and it didn't matter whether the facts supported that.
As if it wasn't enough that she was a slick bullshitter rationalizing the GOP's greed-is-good agenda. But, if the sort of partisanship that recognizes and disapproves of that is off the table, I guess all that's left is two-minutes hate cheap shots. Well done, all!
Not hate; just make sure she isn't President someday. n/t
Not because she's a woman.
Because she, despite being a woman, is UNFIT.
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18
Are you, then, unconcerned about the documented pattern
of low-quality attacks on Palin from lefties?
Some of them, indeed, gender-based: