Fri, 09/05/2008 - 10:26am — lambert
Go read welcome to the frozen economy.
Whichever candidate can address the frozen feeling most effectively is going to win. And it's not at all clear to me which candidate will do that.
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America is moving backward
Looks like it's time to shake off those republicans and get us some Democratic goodness. It may not help with heating oil prices this winter, but you can bet we won't be going backward to the republican policies of slash and burn the American middle class.
it's Congress's responsibility too--
in fact, i'd say that it's more their responsibility to take care of us and create legislation to do things that help us than it is the President's.
(and, of course--to stop legislation and Executive actions that hurt us).
On domestic policy and budgeting especially--it's up to Congress to ensure our needs are met, i'd say.
It's sure be nice
to see a partnership where Executive leads and the Congress legislates. Of course that could be difficult until the Senate is safe. As we are reminded by that premiere obstructionist Jon Kyl, "Heh" (I'm paraphrasing).
Can't we just hope our problems away?
I tell ya, I'm cynical but one of the most optimistic (or "hopeful") guys around. Not so much these days.
I Fully Expect
things will get worse before they get better. A lot worse. McCain will do nothing to help and will actually hurt. Obama with his University of Chicago Econ Advisors will do half-assed watered down stuff. I guess all-in-all, it's probably better to do the half-assed stuff to at least cushion the blow (not that I believe tax cuts are going to be much of a cushion). The downside is there's a possibility Obama's half-assed stuff will do enough to cause a small recovery without fixing the broken fundamentals of the system, delaying the repairs that we desperately need and stringing out the suffering.
On the economy, I kind of figure we're fucked either way. You can't do all the stupid shit we did for the last eight years and not be. Given the Democrats' enabling role, I'm perfectly happy for them to end up holding the bag. Nothing would probably bring a purge of the bipartisan bullshit artists currently leading the party faster than a deep recession or depression (which is coming regardless of who wins, IMO). It's easy to write off those blue collar voters when they aren't calling for your head.
So I guess I favor Obama on the economy, not because I think he'll fix it, but because when he fucks it up, he'll be much more likely to pay a price. Democrats are always much more willing to hold Democrats accountable than Republicans.
Obama *is* the Democratic Party
Or at least the face of it. Jimmy Carter *still* gets his name tossed around when it comes to labeling the Dems as ineffective on the economy (and weak on defense b/c Iran). If Obama fails miserably, there may be purging of the Dems, but only after the GOP takes their seats. Whether we want to admit it or not, McCain is the "left winger" of the GOP and it could get much, much worse come 2012.
A poor first two years from Obama means the GOP takes back seats in the '10 midterms. Another poor two years means more lost seats *and* the possibility of Obama losing. Having Obama (and by extension, the Dems) "holding the bag" means the GOP comes out of obscurity. Nothing emboldens the GOP like being in the minority.
If Obama loses, on the other hand, Dean, Brazile and Pelosi suffer since they have pretty much staked their reputations on Obama. This is a massive Dem year and to lose means that heads will have to roll. Much of the leadership will be in trouble. There will be questions asked, which could finally force the fraud election to be brought to more public light. Those behind it will be in trouble.
In sum, an Obama loss means that someone will have to "hold the bag" for why any Dem would lose in a year when Dems should walk away with it.
What Gqmartinez said. We're going to hit the skids, let's
make sure the repubs get left holding the bag.
I love this job!
I love this job!
I don't necessarily advocate that strategy
It just seems the most realistic to me if that's what is most important to you.
What's most important to me is the fraud elections and both sides have, IMO, subverted fundamental democratic principles in the last several elections. I don't know how or if things are salvageable.
Move south, and become a Republican
Heh.
The author's future suggestions on re-inventing public and private institutions should be a real barrel of laughs. I can't wait.
...for the rest of us
...for the rest of us
More Chills
From Chris Floyd, several articles on the failing economic system. An excerpt:
In the meantime, our media keep us distracted with stupid story after stupid story about everything except what's important. How's that song from Timbuk 3 go?
Presidential elections are planned distractions
To divert attention from the action behind the scenes
Like a game of chess when the house is a mess
Or a petty money squabble when your marriage is in trouble
Or a football game when there's rioting in the streets
It's just another movie, another song and dance
Another poor sucker who never had a chance
It's just another captain going down with his ship
Just another jerk, taking pride in his work
Up and down my leg, bdblue
That's one hell of a link.
[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
No Kidding, lambert
I have got to stop reading Floyd and Silber. They are depressing the crap out of me. Must go back to watching reruns on the teebee.
food prices & Ethanol--
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/...
"... The huge increases in corn ethanol production are affecting food prices. At least 10 studies have found that US corn ethanol production is affecting prices at the supermarket. An April 8 internal report from the World Bank said that the price surge "was caused by a confluence of factors but the most important was the large increase in biofuels production in the US and EU." In mid-July, Consumer Price Index data showed that over the previous three months, US food prices increased at an annualized rate if 8% - one of the biggest increases in recent history.
..."