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Christianist Oral Roberts U. engulfed in scandal, with hundreds of texts from Roberts "first lady" to underage males

oral_roberts [Welcome, TPM readers. Welcome, Laodicea readers.] As we keep saying, authoritarian systems are extremely vulnerable to fraud, because authoritarian followers aren't capable of providing checks and balances for their leaders, and the leaders are always tempted by the usual suspects: Money, power, and sex. Latest example: Oral Roberts [cough] "University," which is about as much a university as Monica Goodling's Regent "University," or bad pizza billionaire and uber-Catholic loon Tom Monahan's Ave Maria. I'll skip right to the juiciest details:

An ORU student repairing [the laptop of Stephanie Cantese, Richard Roberts' sister-in-law] discovered the document and later provided a copy to one of the professors.

It details dozens of alleged instances of misconduct. Among them:

  • A longtime maintenance employee was fired so that an underage male friend of Mrs. Roberts could have his position.
  • Mrs. Roberts — who is a member of the board of regents and is referred to as ORU's "first lady" on the university's [sic] Web site — frequently had cell-phone bills of more than $800 per month, with hundreds of text messages sent between 1 a.m. to 3 a.m. to "underage males who had been provided phones at university expense."

Sounds like she's been taking lessons from Mark Foley (R-Neverland), although, granted, Foley ("Don't forget to measure for me") used IM, not text. Honestly, what is it about Christianist authority figures and child abuse? It's like being a sex predator is part of the job description, or something; at this point, these guys have a track record, and there's example after example after example.

More of the sadly familiar, yet still lurid, details:

  • The university jet was used to take one daughter and several friends on a senior trip to Orlando, Fla., and the Bahamas. The $29,411 trip was billed to the ministry as an "evangelistic function of the president."

Yeah? So what's your point?

  • Mrs. Roberts spent more than $39,000 at one Chico's clothing store alone in less than a year, and had other accounts in Texas and California. She also repeatedly said, "As long as I wear it once on TV, we can charge it off." (Matthew 6:5) The document cites inconsistencies in clothing purchases and actual usage on TV.

Tell me again why we don't tax these guys, just like we tax the rest of the entertainment industry?

  • University and ministry employees are regularly summoned to the Roberts' home to do the daughters' homework.

Home work is for little people!

And, oh yeah, there's the use of church money in poltical campaigns. What a surprise.

Richard Roberts, according to the suit, asked a professor in 2005 to use his students and university resources to aid a county commissioner's bid for Tulsa mayor. Such involvement would violate state and federal law because of the university's nonprofit status. Up to 50 students are alleged to have worked on the campaign.

Pam's House Blend has a copy of the memo ("Attention All Campaigners"). Yeah, I'll be waiting for the [cough] Justice Department to bring suit on this one, despite Roberts being caught red-handed with documentary evidence. Maybe some Democrat will take their courage in both hands and ask Mukasey about it at the coronation confirmation hearings.

NOTE Now, to be fairMR SUBLIMINAL Why? They're not fair to you! the document on Cantese's computer was from an internal investigation by the Oral Roberts board sparked by whistleblowing professors, who were fired, of course. But apparently, the campaign work was the last straw. The rest of the abuse had been going on for years. I'll give one of the whistleblowers the last word:

Tim Brooker, one of the professors who sued, said he fears for the university's survival if certain changes aren't made.

"All over that campus, there are signs up that say, `And God said, build me a university, build it on my authority, and build it on the Holy Spirit,'" Brooker said. "Unfortunately, ownership has shifted."

As it always does. That's the nature of the Christianist Project. Building institutions in the public square is, exactly, laying up treasures on earth (Matthew 6:19). Which is every Christianist's right, bless their heart. But they shouldn't try to kid themselves, or deceive us, that their enterprise is anything more than an power grab to impose their set of tribal so-called "values" on the rest of us. Their enterprise has nothing to do with religion. By definition, it can't. Which is why Jesus warned against the Pharisees, of whom the Roberts family is but the latest incarnation.

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Submitted by Woody--Tokin Librul on

Yew cin teck the buoy outta the tryller-pork, but yew caint teck the tryler-pork outta the buoy...

A Quick Study, But A Slow Learner

Oral Roberts went to South Africa some time in the 50s or 60s, and left in a hurry when caught dealing in uncut diamonds - a felony drawing very long sentences there. It was hushed up to some extent, but South Africans remained skeptical of US 'evangelists' for a long time after that. Not that they needed them - they have their own home-grown hucksters, like any 'Christian' country.

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Do you have any links or info on this claim? I am quite interested in reading more about that.

While I'm no fan or booster of ORU (as it is nearly universally called, possibly so people can avoid saying "Oral Roberts"), it is a university, accredited by one of the official US Department of Education accreditation bodies (and not because of some GOP sinecure). There is a gay community there, though under persecution, and plenty of non-wingnut kids who go there because it's within their reach. (Plenty of wingnut kids, too, to be sure [it is the hometown of James Inhofe], but they're 30% of the US population so you do find them everywhere.)

Despite university mismanagement and now allegations of fraud, it's allegations of academic incompetence that should get attention, and there aren't many of those yet. There are plenty of God-fearing blue-state families who worked hard to send their kids to college, and chose ORU for reasons that include geography and accessibility. If they learn nursing or accounting or a teaching certificate and learn it right, it would be horrid to imply those degrees were worthless because the administrators are crooks.

Harvard wasn't called "Harvard University [sic]" just because its president has strange ideas about women's capabilities. This is why we have accreditation, and it would be nice if people were careful not to imply that all the professors and students were ignorami if the administration turns out to have abused its power.

Not that ORU is Harvard, or anything, but unlike something like (say) Ave Maria University or Regent University, most ORU students seem to go there to learn their chosen field with a religious background, not to learn to be an authoritarian dominionist who merely pretends to be a lawyer (or whatever else) to accomplish wingnut missions.

Proximity may bias me, though; just food for thought.

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Matt's right. There are more or less normal people there more or less getting a good education, as with most schools. I went there for 2 years, though had the sense to get out. Had a sibling graduate. Both of my parents--very intelligent AND liberal people--taught there. Had some fantastic professors (and some hacks). So, it's not as simple as a bunch of rednecks running around. In fact, my fellow students were highly motivated and hard working---they just happened to also run to the creepy, hard-core, Democrats-are-Communists end of things. I had more respect for the old man but none for the son, so this is not surprising. What's a damn shame, as the case by the 3 professors attests to, is the degradation of lots of good effort by the faculty and students. They would be better off elsewhere.

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ORU is not a place to satisfy man, but God.
Therefore we don't give a rat's ass what YOU think.

The gays are a nuisance.
Homosexuality is a pervesion and a fetish.
If any man (or woman) be in Christ he or she is a new creation. Why hang onto something the God has told you He DESPISES in the book of Romans. Why would you want to be around people ho hate homosexuality with a passion?
When my toddler plays in the toilet I tell him to STOP IT!
If Gays choose to keep their life style, it would seem more sensible to be somewhere that agrees spiritually with it.
Gay people should have all the rights and privileges as all other tax people but nobody is going to make me believe its rights when God says it is sin.
When I was in the world, I learn to NEVER EVER NEVER say what I was doing was RIGHT when it was wrong. It wasn't. Don't decieve yourself by calling wrong 'right'.
If you want to please God you will have to give up sin, Like the Roberts will have to get serious and give up their lavish life style, but they are kings kids and the king will deal with them and not internet sladerers.

Want more?
Anonymous coward

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The fact that the founder of this university claimed that "God" would kill him if donors did not pony 8 million tells you what you need to know about this institution. If it doesn't, you are not only a fool but a damned fool.

Also, I am not sure that the tax point about "wear it once" is correct at all. In general, clothing that is useful for general purpose business, casual or social wear in North America is not a bona fide business expense if your job is "university president's family." Maybe a professional fashion model or agency can deduct such clothing since it relates to the core mission of the enterprise, but an attorney cannot deduct her or his business suits, nor can a law firm take a deduction for buying such clothing for an associate unless the value of the clothing is imputed to salary for that employee for both income and FICA taxation. Distinguished from "uniforms" and protective gear, or clothing that is worksite-specific, i.e. "Earl" the plumber, nurses, cops, EMT, fast-food workers, etc. or their employers can deduct job-site specific gear because it's not truly useful for general purpose business or other wear.

While ORU is presumably non-profit (for now....), the clotheshorse inventory for Mrs. Roberts would seem to have to be imputed as income to her or her husband, especially if she keeps the clothes (i.e. takes "ownership".) This is not my primary area of practice so I would welcome corrections from practitoners who may follow regulatory developments in this area more closely.

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hey where did Oral Roberts University get the sculpture of Saddam Hussein's hands clasped in meditative benevolent dictatorship?

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not long ago. He had to buy a particular shade of blue shirt to wear on camera. He tried to take the expense off his taxes under just the situation you describe: it was required by his employer as a condition of employment, AND, he maintained, it was a color he particularly detested and never wore in his off-hours, therefore he would never have purchased these shirts without this requirement.

Tax court judge ruled against him. The matter of his personal taste in shirt colors notwithstanding, there was nothing unique (as you said, the "Earl's Plumbing" embroidery etc) which kept the shirts from being used off-the-job. Deduction denied.

Sorry i can't cite a case number and all that; I am not a lawyer of any sort and just ran across this story as a funny a few years ago.

But from the ORU story as written it sounds to me like Mrs. Roberts is well and truly screwed, legally speaking as I do not want to trouble my beautiful mind with thoughts of anything else related to that word, on the matter of writing off her clothing expenses. I roll my eyes in her general direction at the very thought in fact. Damn but one of the most annoying things about These People is their constant attitude of entitlement....

(whew, I got through a whole post about Oral Roberts without ever once slipping up and mentioning his other brothers Anal and Phallic! I am always so ashamed of myself when I do this. Praise FSM...)

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who allow themselves to be used by of every charlatan who claims god's direct command deserve to be disappointed in their leaders. Just like everyone who took Cretin-1's word for his state of grace, anyone who takes a degree from Oral Roberts' U should be ashamed. Matt, your sympathy is nice, but fraud was committed from the beginning to set up this school. While it may be accredited, its name is a joke. The profs and students at SMU have begun again to risk their own standing on that campus to keep from being associated with war criminals. The profs and students at Oral U. can have that kind of courage too.

Ruth

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These people have such outrageously strict, excluding, and regressive behavioral codes that it is no wonder we are seeing so many "falls from grace" like the one at Oral Roberts University. The bottom line for me is, if they are breaking the law, they should be brought to justice. Similarly, when did such extravagance become so accepted, as Christianity's founder said to give away your possessions to the poor and not be a part of the 'world'?

This religion has lost its way, starting in the 60s and accelerating in the 70s, when they became fully enmeshed in the 'world', involving themselves directly with right wing politics, and abandoning their religious principles. As such, as the right wing falls, we are now seeing a few things: 1) highly visible and high level failures throughout Christianity, 2) an abandoning of the strict and backward moral codes by the younger generation (they are actually significantly more supportive of gay rights than their parents and are more pro-choice, too), 3) right wing Christians are finding it hard to make new converts or to rally their troops by he usual tacti s of demonizing gay people or those who believe in the right to reproductive choice, 4) numerous parallels between fundamentalist-evangelical Christianity and fundie Judaism and Islam continue to be highlighted in the public's eye, and 5) an overall loss of integrity for the Christian religion because of the meanness and un-Christlike behaviors of its leaders and its followers. Christianity's main message is to "love one another" (John 13:34): the primary identity of this religion is now intolerance, exclusion, and downright meanness. Many people find the message of inclusive and unconditional love empowering and enlightening, however, the Christian church has left this beautiful teaching behind, in its rush toward power and wealth.

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Let me guess James - you're gay? Damn mean ol' Christians just want in your bedroom, don't they?

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Anonymous Coward at 17:35, it looks like Anonymous Coward at 14:45 may have his televangelists confused. He may be talking about another case, in which event I hope he returns to provide the documentation you request. But a quick Google turns up the name Pat Robertson in connection with duplicitous African diamond dealings rather than O. Roberts.

Hard to keep the crooks straight, I know. :)

Submitted by lambert on

Is that a reference to Haggard 6:9? [rimshot, laughter]

But Xan, I think you're right. Maybe Mullah Dobson could devote some of his millions to producing a handy chart, just so we could be sure which Christianist leaders have so far avoided indictment or defenestration?

We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan

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You hell bound atheist! I hope you got your asbestos drawers ready! I am not one of those namby pamby Christians. I am one that will kick your ass!
Christians aren't perfect...they are forgiven, fool!
The kings kids are sometimes spoiled brats, but they have the bloodline. Do you?
You hate God, don't you? Thats really your problem.

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“As long as I wear it once on TV, we can charge it off.” (Matthew 6:5)

Classic!

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Where ever you will find a wealthy mafia king pin, a successful TV evangelist or President of a country or a billion dollar enterprise, you will find a zionist-jewish advisor standing next to them.

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religion--think of the sumptuary laws in (middle ages I think), the amassing of fortunes by Pharoahs claiming descent from the sun,etc.

And please spare us the stoopid anti semitic ranting, qd. Christianists are perfectly able to be human, greedy and arrogant all by their lonesomes. Rome and the Vatican City aren't full of museums because the Popes were all fabulous painters and sculptors.

It's us groundlings/common folk who slip up and worship the human leaders that aid and abet this kind of behavior. If authoritarians had no followers, they'd have far less power and money to abuse.

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It seems to me that every year that goes by the U.S. Government and the media target an evangelist to take another stab at Christianity. A favorite pastime of the Goverment and our wonderful non-biased media outlets is to crucify another Christian every year. Last year it was Ted Haggard and now its Richard Roberts turn to fry in the barbeque of the media.

Dont get me wrong, If they are guilty of doing this they should be punished. Oh well, I guess if your a Christian in America your assumed guilty before it's proven and you get no fair trial.

I guess it's time to break out the burning stakes and hunt some Christians down!

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It's you're, NOT your

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I do not believe it is accurate to call these people Christians. Their sins being brought out in the news today is nothing compared to the going on's of the past thirty years or more. Do a little research and send your donations to true followers of God's word like a local small Church whose Pastor works for reasons other than riches on Earth.

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This is just another example of what greed can do to you. Granted these are just accusations, but with so many implied improprieties in the wind (now as in the past)I think the press is right on track. Nobody is above the law, they just think they are.

Submitted by lambert on

Offhand, the only preacher I can remember going down this year is Ted Haggard [rimshot. laughter]

Of course, if you're one of the many children abused by Christianist pastors you've got my sympathy.

If not/anyhow: We're talking about the Roberts abusing their authority, for which the news story, and the accompanying lawsuit, provides a strong prima facie case. Nothing to do with religion at all. It has to do with their behavior in the very public square you guys keep saying you want to be in.

Or were you one of the underage males who got text messages from Mrs. Robinson at 2:00AM, and so you feel a personal connection?

We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan

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I guess if your an American Sunday Christian, it's best to assume all Muslims are going to hell and save God the time and invade and kill their children and hand their oil to Jesus loving oil and sniper mercenary companies. Oil slick, Blackwater..whatever they go by, if love of the Lord Jesus in America means keeping quiet and turning the other cheek to mass murder, gee who wouldn't want to be part of that!!

So when the anti-christ is probably knocking on your ego ridden American back door, the governments and perverted politicians and false prophets for profit that are contaminating the flocks, will hide in their bunkers and wait. And then, they will pray for the mountains to crush them and hide them from the face of God.. that day of wrath is surly coming. "Oh,well?"

No body is judge but God in Heaven. Nobody. Got that! But, if prophecy means changing the direction from evil, America can forget it. It's taking satans hand and jumping in head first. I see nothing in America's immediate future to prove me wrong.

How America , the great whore will fall and all those who partook in her delights and smut and drank from her blood filled military /drug filled golden cup. Will they in their lack of testing the spirits ,suffer Gods wrath? And the whore will fall with the tears of those who embraced her. The Great Whore of babylon has fallen.

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Isn't it possible that one of the daughters was text messaging the "underage males," not the mother? My son uses a cell phone that is registered in my name. Should I be accused of calling "underage girls" in the middle night just because he does. Besides, most women in their fifties are not awake from 1-3 am, let alone running after pimply faced boys. Come on, folks! Let's be realistic even if we aren't willing to be fair!

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"Honestly, what is it about Christianist authority figures and child abuse?"

It may be that some people who have pedophile urges sublimate them into what they believe to be "pro-child," "pro-family" attitudes.

They are obsessed with children, and this is their way of dealing with it, of washing it clean (in the blood of the Lamb...). Of course, it never really takes, and some will break down and molest children.

Of course, others may be less self-deluded; they may simply realize that the job of minister or priest is a pedophile's dream job: get to be alone with kids, having gained the total trust of their parents.

Either way, it's awfully creepy.

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Sorry, that was me, didn't put my name in.

Submitted by lambert on

This amount of calls:

$800 per month, with hundreds of text messages

Seems like a lot for the scenario you propose.

And why would she give--or, rather, have ORU pay for--a cell for herself, only to let the daughters use it? If the Roberts family is having the university pay $29,411 for a trip for the daughters, why balk at a cellphone?

We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan

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The "investigation" by the school's board of directors will be bogus, at best. It is led by member John Hagee. John Hagee is the evanglist who publicly and continuously proclaimed Hurrican Katrina was God's way of punishing New Orleans for holding a gay rights parade. This man has admitted (on NPR's Fresh Air) to writing instructions to the leaders of Israel on how to destroy Palestine. He uses Old Testament verses as suggestions. He has proclaimed the United States as being in a "war against Christianity".
Don't expect objective and honest conclusions about this scandal from Hagee or the board.

Submitted by lambert on

Greenwald.

Then there's the whole Katrina is a punishment from God thing. 'Cause Gawd hates fags, and all that.

Tell me again how OR"U" is an extremely mainstream and legitimate university? I forgot why.

We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan

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Most televangelists get around the clothing thing by having the church or organization buy the clothes and keep them as inventory. Some evangelists have taken advantage of this by preaching vow of poverty, claiming to own nothing, as even the shirt on their back is owned by someone else.

A scam by any other name is still a scam!!

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Put it this way. It seems like it would have come out much earlier if Mrs. Roberts was texting underage males at a rate of $800/month, because regardless of her predilections, there just are't many underage males interested in middle-aged mothers, Christian or no. The texting would have been instantly broadcast by one of them.

I think it was almost certainly one of the daughters texting.

Submitted by lambert on

I see the argument that "it would have come out before now."

Why give a cell to the daughters, though? When you're spending $29,000 on a vacation right out front, why launder a cell phone bill for the daughters through the Mom?

And as far as "it would have come out by now," maybe. Depends on how tight the community was, how willing the students would be to confront an authority figure, and so on.

I should also say that ORU is by no means the worst university in the world. However, with regents as above, and what the second generation of Roberts is doing to it, it's only a matter of time. See comment on original post on treasures.

We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan

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You label your site anti-torture, not true, if it were the case you would need to quit blogging.
Apparently you have a game of hide the Jew going on. "Come on Proles, its the Middle class Christians who are responsible for your plight kill'em kill'em!" Prestidigitators. Lou Pearleman, who's he. He's the Billionaire Record Producer who likes to fellate young boys. Abra Kadabra, he's gone. Roman Polanski, you said that 13 year old girl seduced you and manipulated you into sodomizing her to the point of rupture. Just step in the wardrobe stage right. Alakazam! Pedophile no more. Award winning Director emerge. Folsom Street Fair exposing toddlers to Sado-Masochistic Gay Sex. Just a tap of the fairy wand and presto, never happened.
Here's to the wake that will inevitably drown you rats leaving the sinking ship and indoctrinated "christianists" behind.

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I am not a proponent of Doing Wrong, yet It is equally wrong to slander, even in alledged situations. God is truly the only conclusive Judge in all things. I do agree that when wrong is exclusively uncovered justice should be served. In all fairness being judgmental, even critically so, is not a formidible righteous act anymore than those who are determinently guilty of those alledged criminal acts. I am not defending the virtue of those who have accosted the good will of others or their resources. I am however interested in the Lord's Law that reminds all men/women that you will reap what you sew. This law applies to all people.

If all people were caught in every single instance of unspeakable wrongs and held at the capital pinnacle of an "eye for an eye" there could be no grace, nor any forgiveness of wrongs done however catastrophic the appearances of it are.

There is only one true Judge "Jesus the Christ." While governmentally the chosen judges of our land preside as an honorable office, their election is still permitted by the authority of God himself.

I write all this to emplore a reasonable consideration to abolish clamorous expressions and to incite a prayerful approach to invite God to have His Omnipotent way in the ORU - Roberts mess.

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Bolshevik Mentality
Appeal to Thinking Outside the Box

just axin'...
A Quick Study, But A Slow Learner

Submitted by lambert on

Absent truly obvious markers (most of which are caught by the system anyhow), trollishness is established by a pattern of behavior, rather than by foolishness.

We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan

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I miss that reasoned discourse!

We can admit that we're killers ... but we're not going to kill today. That's all it takes! Knowing that we're not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0

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I am a current ORU student and I must say that this scandal is not surprising. I go to an ORU grad program and find it to be a very legitimate school with good professors. However, I do believe the theology to be very misguided and for that reason I am looking into finishing my degree elsewhere. I have gone to ORU for a while because it is convenient with good professors, but if I were a German living in the Nazi era I wouldn't work for Adolf Hitler just because it were convenient. I got out of the Army because I didn't agree with working for George W. Bush, and I will most likely leave ORU because I don't believe in paying into the pockets of a scamming televangelist either. Vaya con Dios!

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Tho I'm surprised to hear you think the profs are so great. At SMU, faced with the Liebury being deposited there defacing the reputation of all, profs are trying to oust it or get out.

You're not far from U TX, a top rated school. Good luck.

Ruth

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what program are you pursuing your grad degree in?

oru's in Tulsa, or near it, innit? University of Tulsa's got a decent rep...OSU at stillwater's not that far away, and that's a comprehensive Univ. not that far from Norman, either.

the size of the university might be an intimidating factor for an undergrad experience, but it's a huge advantage on the grad school level. it means more and better profs, with more diverse interests (and better chances to find advisors with whom you actually have something in common) and better (Library/Connectivity/travel) resources. The biggest class I ever was in as a student was statistics, which was required throughout the college, and so all the grad students hadda take it. maybe 20-30 students, max. (Literally, I passed by writing doggerel using statistical vocabulary. True story.)
...i'd be interested in why you went to oru in the first place? got a scholarship/assistanship? a mentor?
...anyway, good luck.
Me? A Quick Study, But A Slow Learner

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During the four years I worked on the ORU campus back in the late 1990s and Early 2000s I heard from reliable sources that ORU's current Finance and Operations VP, who back in 1997 was the head boss at the ORU Mabee Center Business office, periodically missused revenue earned by the University's Mabee Center Ticket Office. One of the most well known missuses in the office at that time was when he stole funds and gave them to a 20 year old female relative of his. The funds were given to her so she could obtain breast enlargment surgery for herself. This young relative had also dated Richard Robert's personal pilot, who was at least 20 years older than she at the time they dated each other. Back then the current university financial comptroller, who has been fired only recently after ORU's latest scandel broke this week, worked in the Mabee Center as the boss of the the Mabee Center financial office.

For the funds that the Mabee Center's business office boss stole for the young relative's breast enlargement surgery to be undetectable in the audits; the Mabee Center financial office boss had to also have been involved in the theft.

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During the four years I worked on the ORU campus back in the late 1990s and Early 2000s I heard from reliable sources that ORU's current Finance and Operations VP, who back in 1997 was the head boss at the ORU Mabee Center Business office, periodically missused revenue earned by the University's Mabee Center Ticket Office. One of the most well known missuses in the office at that time was when he stole funds and gave them to a 20 year old female relative of his. The funds were given to her so she could obtain breast enlargment surgery for herself. This young relative had also dated Richard Robert's personal pilot, who was at least 20 years older than she at the time they dated each other. Back then the current university financial comptroller, who has been fired only recently after ORU's latest scandel broke this week, worked in the Mabee Center as the boss of the the Mabee Center financial office.

For the funds that the Mabee Center's business office boss stole for the young relative's breast enlargement surgery to be undetectable in the audits; the Mabee Center financial office boss had to also have been involved in the theft.

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Did you know that when I worked there student employees, numerous times, commented with staff and among themselves about the high number of gay students who at that time had been allowed to be admitted to ORU, and who were permitted to live in the dorms on campus.

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ALOHA this is soooo wild and interesting. Here at our church in Honolulu where the Roberts visit from time to time and are good friends of the Sepulveda's www.wordoflifehawaii.com our annointed pastors also live the lavish lifestyle: multi-million dollar waterfront compound, drive hummers, range rovers, 7 series BMW and of course jet set 1st class around the world sharing the love of Jesus at the expense of thousands of suckers here on the island.

Not to mention the scandal a few years ago with their "supernatural" Word of Life Academy that proclaims their students are 2-3 yrs ahead of the public schools of Hawaii. Recently "annointed pastor" Ashley Sepulveda 21 year old who rocked the school and church with her pregnancy and drug distribution among the students. Amazing it was all ok when Pastor Art Sepulveda announced to the church that fellow senior student and praise and worship leader Josh was the father of the "annointed" child....it seemed to have made it all ok for the church...forgiveness was overwhelming until.... the unexpected happened. Josh announced publicly that he was gay! OOPs maybe he wasn't the father. After several dna test it was found out that Josh was not the father after all...OOPs!

Several years later and many many court dates paternity has been established and quietly Pastor Ashley has continued her life of debauchery and whoredom all financed by the church. Not to mention it is she that drove the Hummer, had the $6000 boob job and recently was seen at a local bar in Waikiki being baptized with alcohol Hawaiian Style! Praise the Lord! Then back to church on Sunday of on the platform on Friday Nights EMERGE YOUTH SERVICE shaking her bootie for Jesus scantily dressed on the platform. All in the name of the Lord!!!

The same school and ministry has seen the turnstyle annointing with people fired and "released for increase" for not aligning their hearts with the "vision of the father" could it be daddy Art Sepulveda? or mamma Kuna? It can't be coincidental that lavish lifestyles such as the Robert's who so happen to be friends of the Sepulveda's is not the same or parallel.

Does anyone know about this church? They are also connected to our heavenly Godfather Cesar Castellanos from Bogota, Columbia and have implemented the G12 Cult movement at Word of Life Hawaii

Help! Stranded on an island!

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Let it go Aloha Artie,
Your love can cover a multitude. It sounds like you were once a WOLCC attendee or staff. My heart goes out to you. Wow it must be tuff to deal with. The real issue is "you" and your heart. Every church is imperfect and will have imperfect people and sinners and what not. No matter were you go, life is not fair. Let it go move on so God can bless you again.

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