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Welcome to the relaunched Corrente (2)

So far, the site hasn't exploded, touch wood. I'm so happy!!!!!!!!

At this point, I should make a long list of the tweaks, major and minor, that I've done -- note cute push pin showing sticky post, a long-ago request from the old site -- but I have a million things to do, so I won't waste time on petty triumphalism. One big thing, however, is the comments formatting, which I restored to more or less the way it was on the old site.

So, please feel free to leave additional requests for  bug fixes, tweaks, or new features in the comments to this post. Thanks!

NOTE I, as an admin, "see" all functionaly because of my administrative super-duper powers and privileges. So, if I seem to be making an assumption that you can "see" something that you cannot in fact see, it's probably what they call a "permissions" problem, i.e. your super privileges are not quite duper enough. So let me know on that. Generally, if I start talking about something you will be able to do, it is my intent that you be able to do it...

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Submitted by YesMaybe on

One thing I liked about how it was before has to do with the recent comments.  Because urls used to include the post's title, by hovering the mouse over a recent comment it was easy to see what post it was about.  Now that the post urls have a numeric code, that's not possible.  Many comments are titled 'Re: ... whatever', but one can still set the comment title to something else (which I like), in which case there's no way to know what post it's on without clicking on it.  So if there's a way to do it, it'd be nice to have something like a tooltip with the post's title when you hover over a recent comment link.

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Submitted by lambert on

There was a configuration issue that was putting out node numbers instead of the title-based URLs. One of my jobs today was to fix the configuration and back-fill all the posts since the transition.

Please let me know if the problem is now solved.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

Submitted by YesMaybe on

Hmm... the posts do seem to have named urls now, but the comments don't (and don't include the post's url).  (I hadn't realized comments had their own urls, I thought they were just with a # after the post, but I guess that's new to the new site,)  So the situation is the same in what concerns the recent comments section.  For example, the link for your comment is:

http://www.correntewire.com/comment/214348#comment-214348

 

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Submitted by Cujo359 on

It's not a complaint or request so much as an observation - those of us who filter out Javascript aren't going to see the "Please give" button from We Pay. There's just a link there.

 

As I mentioned in the post about Gravatars, I don't know where to try to log in using OpenID, but if and when I find it, I'll try it out.

 

Submitted by lambert on

... can't help that. Drupal does try to "gracefully degrade" in the absence of JavaScript, but probably doesn't do it well in all cases. You can turn off the blocks that are JavaScript-heavy from your Account.

UPDATE Adding, that naturally I enoourage people to use the donation link even if there is no JavaScript pop-up!

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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Submitted by Cujo359 on

From the page source, it appears that there's some Javascript provided by WePay that displays the button. They (or you, possibly), could make it work sans Javascript by adding a strong like this:

<NOSCRIPT><IMG SRC="(URL of WePay's button image file)"></NOSCRIPT>

to the template around the "Please give" link (sorry, just don't have the patience to type all the extra HTML required to show that).

Of course, it's possible that WePay doesn't want you to do that - they may consider this feature copyright protection or some such. Which is why it may end up being something they will have to fix, if it gets fixed at all.

Meanwhile, I know what the link is, and I'm probably one of like two or three people for whom this is a problem...

Submitted by lambert on

... and there is an OpenID identities tab on your account page where you can link your Corrente identity to your OpenID identity -- because otherwise (apparently) there's a danger of created two identies, one for OpenID, one for your existing account. I don't want to end up with that, and if there ends up being a ton of adminstrative work sorting that out... I may rethink this option.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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Submitted by Cujo359 on

Once I added the OpenID account to my Corrente account, that worked - meaning that I was able to log in as this identity. I think the advantage of OpenID, though, is not having to create a local account. Otherwise, it's pretty much a question of what you have to type to log in.

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Submitted by Cujo359 on

I don't know how that previous comment ended up being duplicated here. I had Javascript enabled, so I was seeing the fancy editor thing, but I only hit the SAVE button once, I'm sure.

Submitted by lambert on

This sounds to me like one of those "touch" glitches that goes away with practice.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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Submitted by athena1 on

Thanks, Lambert!

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Submitted by athena1 on

Still can't edit my comments, tho?

Submitted by lambert on

Thanks you. On the comments, see discussion with jawbone elsewhere.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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Submitted by athena1 on

See, there's not even a preview button any more, so I'd worry about trying to insert an image and it turning out goofy, or a link not being clickable. Would it be possible to just put, say, a 5 minute limit on editing comments?

Have you actually HAD a big problem with people maliciously editing comments?

(sorry for being argumentative, seriously.)

Submitted by lambert on

to catch typos. There's a module for that, and I think that's better than a time limit. I'll look into that in a few minutes.

On "does it happen?" Yes, of course it does. (1) That's why there's a module; there's demand from admins for it, and (2) go look at 4chan if you want to see a totally unmoderated environment.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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Submitted by athena1 on

Groovy.  :)

I've posted on a few boards that only moderated spam out, and it was...well, I'm not there any more. lol. 

And I have seen the very occasional use of editing to mess with people, but I didn't know if it was a big problem HERE. Seems like the mods/admin here have a pretty good spidey-sense when it comes to detecting those operating in bad faith and giving them the boot.

Submitted by lambert on

I found a module that allows comments to be time-limited and installed it; I set the limit to two minutes.

Please test!

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Comment gaming is not a problem here, and I curate carefully. But I do not want it to become one, and if we get a lot of new users, that could happen. And I want to get a lot of new users.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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Submitted by athena1 on

test

Submitted by jawbone on

more than once, mostly due to finding typos, lack of subject-verb agreement, new idea about comment subject line to make it more clear. Pretty benign.

I for one, with my tendency to transpose letters, will sorely miss unhindered editing!

Say it isn't so!

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Submitted by Jeff W on

What was wrong with the way it worked previously—where you could always edit a comment unless someone replied to it and then the comment was “locked”?

That seemed sensible enough—it seemed fair that you couldn’t retroactively edit a comment so as to make a reply seem idiotic but as long as no one had you could polish it to your heart’s content.

Every apathetic citizen is a silent enlistee in the cause of inverted totalitarianism.—Sheldon Wolin

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Submitted by Jeff W on

What was wrong with the way it worked previously—where you could always edit a comment unless someone replied to it and then the comment was “locked”?

That seemed sensible enough—it seemed fair that you couldn’t retroactively edit a comment so as to make a reply seem idiotic but as long as no one had you could polish it to your heart’s content.

(Edit: That Two minutes left! warning is so anxiety-provoking! It’s like taking the SAT! sad)

Every apathetic citizen is a silent enlistee in the cause of inverted totalitarianism.—Sheldon Wolin

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Submitted by Jeff W on

Ha, well, that edit appeared as a reply to my original comment. I guess that's a bug? (This one is a reply to that reply.)

Every apathetic citizen is a silent enlistee in the cause of inverted totalitarianism.—Sheldon Wolin

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Submitted by athena1 on

Still no way to edit?

Also, I've modded/admined on some HUGE, active forums, and comment gaming is pretty rare. The most common issue is when people YAGE and go back and delete every post and comment they ever made. But even that's not exactly common. Once every couple of months or something.

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Submitted by Aeryl on

I don't know if this is possible, but on Disqus it makes a note if a comment has been edited. 

He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave.
- Sir William Drummond

Submitted by lambert on

Nothing built in that does that. Sorry! Anyhow, there's not a lot that can be done in two minutes.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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Submitted by Jeff W on

And it seems like, just maybe, we can post Chinese characters now!

If so, 太 棒 了 !

(Let's see how if that works. Chinese characters in sentence above.)

(Edit: It works! Awesome!)

Every apathetic citizen is a silent enlistee in the cause of inverted totalitarianism.—Sheldon Wolin