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Schoolboy Q - There He Go

There He Go by ScHoolboy Q on Grooveshark

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Submitted by ubetchaiam on

What is the point of presenting such lyrics and truly uninspiring 'music'?

Giving voice to such low-life culture I just don't get; there is other rpa that is so much more worthy of being given a voice that I really don't understand the motivation is presenting this.

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Submitted by danps on

I hadn't read the lyrics, though I knew there were a few objectionable lines. I think the song has a great hook and I think his delivery on "they be like, there he go" is hilarious; those are the main reasons I posted it.

Lyrics can look very different when removed from the context of the song they appear in. They often don't stand up well on their own, even for songs that are considered really meaningful. (A lot of Springsteen's songs are like that for me.)

I try to post a variety of different sounds here. Rap is not my first musical language, I grew up listening to rock and roll. I try to go outside my comfort zone and listen to other things - rap, country, dance/electronic, anything that might possibly fit under the broad umbrella of "popular."

Rap is notorious for having a high degree of misogyny, homophobia and other regressive sentiments. I do try to keep an eye out for songs that have a good message like with my Goodie Mob post a few weeks ago, but songs like that are hard to find. (And hey, an atheist might find that song objectionable for promoting the opiate of the masses.)

I probably give rap a wider berth because its lyrical flaws are more noticeable to me than with rock. There are plenty of rock songs with terrible lyrics but I think they tend to get more of a pass because rock is more accepted in popular culture. Rap also comes from a demographic that's historically been marginalized, and a population that's received the hardest oppression will produce the hardest outlooks. There should be a way to recognize worthwhile art that comes from it without necessarily endorsing everything about it (which I grant presenting the song without comment did not do).

So the question then is, do I boycott the entire genre? Or post music that I don't think is especially good but that has the right lyrics? Like I said, I think There He Go has a great hook, and to a certain extent I trust listeners will filter out the noise.

As for rap that is more worthy of being given a voice, pass along some examples and I'll listen to them - and let me know where you find it, too. I prefer original music from relatively new artists, so please keep that in mind.

Submitted by ubetchaiam on

Thanks for sharing the pov about posting this but I would question whether having a 'hook' is sufficient to be an effective 'fliter' for the 'noise'; it obviously wasn't for me.
And I do wonder how it -rap- would raise a question about 'boycott'(ing) the genre.
Herre's a listof some types of rap and the associated artists;
http://www.types-of-music.net/rap/types-of-rap-music/
this 'song' was reflective to gangsta afaic and just don't see it being either 'art' or doing or contributing anything to making human sorrow less.

Submitted by lambert on

Maybe there's a difference between 1982 (!) and 2012....

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I read the lyrics and I'm struck by the intricacy of the verbal patterning*, the casual explicitness (and why not), and the hooks (not as rich as Public Enemy, but that's a pretty high baseline). I also see the theme of the song as a way of distancing the singer from the corrosive effects of stardom because I've been going through a Grateful Dead phase, and finally started listening to the concerts with awareness of when heroin started blunting Garcia's skills -- and heroin, among other things, was a way of coping with stardom for him.

So we might regard "I'm the muthafuckin' man, ran into him, he's a fan" as, by Garcia's standard, a healthy reaction....

I don't go around calling women bitches and hos, and all societies should get to the point where that doesn't happen. Thinking about how to criticize this work seems to present the same problem that talking to very conservative people does: Some of their views are abhorrent to me. But not all. What to do? (Again, I find this Louis CK video helpful on white privilege, so but and a similar video could be made for male privilege, by rewriting the jokes just a little!)

NOTE * The site is truly amazing. Lots of annotation and interpretation of the lyrics. Select a block and click, and a popup comes up....

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi