Lazy and Sloppy are Two Words I Don't Like Using about the ProgBlog

Annoyingly sloppy, David.

Look, there's one thing that the blogosphere can and should do well: provide the details. It's really great that David put up this anti-Clinton screed (and if it's not, it's a bad attempt not to be) at a site that allows comments; at least we get the chance in the comments to remind him that it's important to put his money where his mouth is. But now is the time when Hard Data is really necessary, and really useful, and he doesn't give us any.

Unlike a lot of people, I tend to enjoy much of David's work. As I said in the comments, I can understand, ahem, "both sides" of the argument. On the one hand, I don't believe that many Establishment Villagers can or want to do what it takes to solve the real, pressing problems this country is facing. Many "permanent Villagers" really are too concerned with Insider Baseballism and the pecking order in the Beltway to work hard for the policy change we desperately need. On the other hand, I think that there are *some* experienced, decent, actually liberal or progressive former Clintonians, and just because they worked for the last Democratic president doesn't mean they shouldn't work for the newest one.

Data is good. Facts are good. It's not that fucking hard to make a list, and back it up with links. As they used to say in journalism skoolz: Who? What? Where? When? Why? It would've been really great if David had answered any of those questions, rather than just making a throwaway claim about his evelope backsides, or whatever. You really should've tried harder, D. You're not living up to the High Standards of the Blogosphere, but instead acting like the very Village Insiders you claim to dislike.

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On the bright side, news blogs make the NYTimes as muckrakers

Via The News Wire at The Agonist comes this NYTimes story about non-profit web sites set up by journalists to dig into local stories.

As America’s newspapers shrink and shed staff, and broadcast news outlets sink in the ratings, a new kind of Web-based news operation has arisen in several cities, forcing the papers to follow the stories they uncover.

Here it is VoiceofSanDiego.org, offering a brand of serious, original reporting by professional journalists — the province of the traditional media, but at a much lower cost of doing business. Since it began in 2005, similar operations have cropped up in New Haven, the Twin Cities, Seattle, St. Louis and Chicago. More are on the way.

Their news coverage and hard-digging investigative reporting stand out in an Internet landscape long dominated by partisan commentary, gossip, vitriol and citizen journalism posted by unpaid amateurs.
SNIP
New nonprofits without a specific geographic focus also have sprung up to fill other niches, like ProPublica, devoted to investigative journalism, and the Pulitzer Center on Crisis Reporting, which looks into problems around the world. A similar group, the Center for Investigative Reporting, dates back three decades.

But some experts question whether a large part of the news business can survive on what is essentially charity, and whether it is wise to lean too heavily on the whims of a few moneyed benefactors.

The great bugbear--money. How do do good things with only a little money--and benefactors who may lose interest. Most political blogs are dependent on the news published by the MCM, books, scholarly articles, etc. From those may come research done by bloggers and blog readers, but that is not the norm.

Interesting article--one look at the future of journalism, newspapers, "the news."

If we're raking muck...

... then where's the brass?

what he left out

(altho he's been very good overall lately at showing how non-progressive and non-liberal they all are)

is that Obama himself demonized the Clintons and their 2 terms--which by extension slurred the very people he's now hiring.

We've also known for a very long time tho, that Obama would do what Dubya did (and as the Village demanded) -- hire "experienced" DC Village members in good standing -- and it's overtly been part of Obama's whole campaign -- all the tons of "validators" -- who have all been Village members.

here's a better more recent post from him-- http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?dia... -- Evidence Anyone? -- on all the DLC and rightwing people --
"...And the fact that so many people seem so utterly divorced from reality - so utterly consumed and blinded by their support for Obama - that they cannot see this (or simply refuse to admit it) is really a bad sign for what's to come. ..."

like i said, amber, i'm "sympathetic" to his claims

and i do like much of his work. but i don't like sloppy, even and esp when i do it. but A Listers like David should know better than to write a short screed like that without providing some fucking fact to back it up. he's better than that. i've seen him be so in previous and other posts.

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