David Sirota, meet David Sirota

vastleft's picture

Poor David Sirota is being eaten alive by “Hillary sycophants,” with their troubling “I told you sos.”

You see, where Obama has “sheer personal awesomeness” going for him, Hillary ruined everything with her beloved NAFTA program.

If you can stand to hear of her sheer depravity, listen to the muckraking journalist who got close enough to Hillary to hold calipers up to her thick ankles, as he describes her rapacious glee about NAFTA:



David, you should listen to what some other guy named David Sirota said about the vexing lot of the Obama critic:

…whenever questions [about Obama] are raised - no matter how gently or how substantive - the person raising it is attacked as a “concern troll,” a “whiner,” a purist martyr on a crucifix, a self-important attention freak who thinks he/she is a hero, a horrifically disloyal traitor or a “liar” (the last of which is most appalling, since those making the accusations may disagree on opinion, but rarely actually offer up where the questioners are factually inaccurate).

This dynamic just might account for perhaps a little excess zeal in pointing a finger back at people who wrote — and are still proud of — posts like these.

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Ga6th's picture

The most

amazing thing is how quickly everyone has been able to say "I told you so". You could even start before he was inaugurated with the pastor disaster.

gqmartinez's picture

Thank you, VL

I was going to post on this, but I figured I'd sleep on it so as not to respond to the post in the same manner in which the post was written (i.e. petulant attacks).

Only tyrants rig elections.

pie's picture

Yawn.

Kids these days...

don't always know best. Wink

Sirota's mistake was the nasty crap and personal attacks, but it was prevalent. Those guys had nothing else except hopey, dopey change. Obama and Hillary weren't that far apart on policies (if you could actually figure out what his were), but where she was long on goals and possible solutions, he was king of the blather. She had seen it all and had experience. She had been dealt quite a few blows, but remained standing and strong. He was in the right place at the right time.

Now, reality has kicked in and the Sirotas of the world have no defense. Instead, they resort to throwing their litte tantrums. I mean, how immature was that litte rant?!! No wonder he can't see the forest for the trees.

Sirota needs to go the corner and have a time out and be honest about the politcal landscape for a change. Grow up, dude.

basement angel's picture

Joe Cannon posted a poll the other day

from the campaign last year that found 43% of men feel anger or anxiety at the thought of a woman in the White House as president, and 48% of men felt anger or anxiety at the thought of Hillary Clinton as president.
http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_...

I know of not a single issue where Clinton consistently voted to the right of Obama's votes - this is a little hard to judge because he ducked out of a lot votes that they were compared on. So, this idea that Obama is to the left of Clinton on anything is bizarre in the extreme. There was no issue in his platform where he more progressive than her and quite a few where he was to the right of her.

I just think Sirota is one of those guys who cannot deal with the idea of a woman as president. So, supporting an African American allows him to keep his progressive street cred in order while engaging in bigotry the likes of which we haven't seen since the heyday of racism in the fifties.

"Someone needs to point out that elephants produce infinitely more shit than donkeys." Brad Mays

pie's picture

I have no doubt that little men

couldn't see her as prez.

How effing progressive is that?

I realize that the 21st century isn't currently such a happy place, due mostly to decisions by asshole men, but we're here. Deal.

Davidson's picture

I keep trying to minimize the role bigotry played last year

But it's too damn stunning. I can't escape what I witnessed last year: men I thought I knew and trusted becoming absolutely deranged at the prospect of a woman even seriously challenging a man to become president. There was nothing off limits to their incredible anti-female intolerance and hatred. Nothing.

And these were young, supposedly liberal men who are incredibly well-educated, have high-paying careers, and consider themselves "enlightened." After all, they're pro-choice! I hate that cop-out. It's like someone feeling comfortable with inciting overt racism because they support affirmative action. Besides, laws are meaningless in a culture that's openly hostile to its underlying idea. Right now, child rape is illegal and supposedly hated by society but because it's overwhelmingly misogynistic (girl victims chosen because they're girls), it's at epidemic levels in our rape/misogynistic culture.

I don't think they ever supported Obama as much as hated on Clinton. The candidacy of Obama did allow them to further demonize women and girls and those who support their equality as vile racists. Bigots always like to cloak themselves in moral superiority and this was just too easy for them.

a little night musing's picture

Davidson, your input is invaluable

I've gotten into pointless arguments with my (20-something) son about this election. I'm not sure that to this day he knows how I felt, or voted, and I sure as heck didn't know how he thought or voted.

This is a son who would not exist in an alternate universe. I am and have always been a total advocate for choice. And yet... and yet...

We can't afford not to have single-payer!

HeroesGetMade's picture

The Tell-Tale with Sirota

Is his conflation of President Clinton with First Lady Clinton, and attributing Bill's mis-steps to Hillary. Even though Bill did it, it must be Hillary's fault - the she-devil made him do it. And it goes without saying that Hillary would repeat every one of Bill's mis-steps just like a mindless appendage that can't learn from someone else's mistakes. Sad stuff, from someone who actually made sense on some matters until the primary. He'd better pace himself, though, because it's gonna be a looonng four years of bipartisanship (new word for the people being screwed over from all sides) and the only guilty pleasure some of us have is telling low-information Obama supporters I Told You So.

Card-carrying_Buddhist's picture

I have to agree with you, Basement Angel. Gender bias

is not only alive and well in America, it shamelessly thrives among Fauxgressives.

Reporter to Mahatma Gandhi: What do you think of Western Civilization?
Gandhi to reporter: I think it would be a good idea.

vastleft's picture

Remember when Chris Matthews was being floated as...

... a serious Dem candidate for senator?

Imagine if he'd said the racial equivalent of this stuff...

http://vastleft.blogspot.com/2006/11/so-...

On another front, I must admit that skeptical though I tried to be, that post catches me being waaaay too optimistic about the Democrats.

lambert's picture

Not only am I never cynical enough...

... I'm never brutal enough in my parodies.

"Sheer personal awesomeness"?

Paper towel, David?

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

Imelda Blahnik's picture

haka

Off topic, but not really (or only slightly): "New Zealand Maori win haka fight." Hmm, did they win haka by doing haka? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7882775.stm

donna darko's picture

Take a moment and reflect

on how self-serving this is:

I just think Sirota is one of those guys who cannot deal with the idea of a woman as president. So, supporting an African American allows him to keep his progressive street cred in order while engaging in bigotry the likes of which we haven't seen since the heyday of racism in the fifties.

basement angel's picture

Hmmmm, self-serving?

How, exactly, is that self-serving?

"Someone needs to point out that elephants produce infinitely more shit than donkeys." Brad Mays

donna darko's picture

Fauxgressives

are self-serving not you.

a little night musing's picture

vastleft...

Thanks. Just that. I keep trying to come up with an idea for "Sorry News" but I'm too overwhelmed these days. (That's my story, and I'm sticking to it! It can't be that I'm just less observant than you are!)

[Just how vast is your conspiracy, anyway? Really vast, I'm thinking!]

We can't afford not to have single-payer!

vastleft's picture

Sometimes that conspiracy seems infinitesimal

Certainly when compared to the vast center-right-enabling conspiracy.

I've had a Sorry News script kicking around for awhile, which I may shoot soon, if I can find the time.

zuzu's picture

My favorite bit

Is where on Tuesday, he's telling Clintonites and Naderites (all of them! Because if one emailed him to say I Told You So, they all did!) to STFU because they lost and they're bitter and nobody wants to hear what they have to say ...

... and then on Wednesday, he's whiningly accusing Nate Silver of "telling progressives to STFU:"

This is neither the time nor the place for those who say America should STFU and simply take orders, and this is not the time for "expert opinion" if "expert opinion" is (as the term always is) defined as "Establishment opinion." We've been there, done that, and gotten shitted on because we took this kind of advice for way too long. It's time that mass movements assert their will, and if there's any set of people who should STFU, it shouldn't be mass movements, as Silver suggests - it should be power-worshiping sycophants of the eliteocracy.

So it's uncivil and undemocratic to tell a group to STFU, but only when David belongs to the group being told (or so he imagines) to STFU.

Damon's picture

Clean-up in Aisle 92'

The Clinton argument, in particular, is so utterly stupid and silly. A big part of what Obama has to do right now is clean up after Clintonism.

...

Among Clintonites, the "I Told You So" rants are just straight-up sore-loser-ism. Unable to accept that a first-term senator defeated their candidate who had every single advantage, they cannot embrace the new president, even as that new president (wrongly, IMHO) appoints her to a top position in his administration.

3. To Clintonites, just STFU and slither back to your rathole of bitterness. Your candidate lost because she helped create the problems we now have to fix. Deal with that and become a productive member of society, or again, just STFU.

Really? I actually don't know where to go with this; I'm speechless. I'm not sure how he could possibly redeem himself from this. This isn't something he mistakenly said in anger. It's more than apparent that he means all of this with every fiber of his being.

But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...

Randall Kohn's picture

I wish Sirota would publish his tripe on DU.

I'd give him the only kind of answer he evidently understands.

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