No art critic I, but Aliza Shvarts’ senior project seems incomprehensible to me.
An art major and a senior graduating in May 2008, this young woman chose a graphic, and undeniably controversial, expression of her feelings on the right to choose when to carry a pregnancy to term — predictably, the results of her efforts have attracted attention.
What do you think she’s achieved, if anything, with her art?
Disturbing Artwork: Multiple, Intentional Abortions
Submitted by Sarah on Thu, 2008-04-17 19:30.
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In the end, she’s going to videotape blood coming out of her vagina once a month and call it an abortion. And then she’ll smear it on a wall and tell us to play “Where’s Blasto?”.
Unless she shows us the inseminations also, I’m not going to be particularly impressed. As they say on the EVE forums, “Pics or it did not happen.”
But I still believe
And I will rise up with fists!!
Is this really anything more than a glorified flow chart?
Just asking.
Tough crowd tonight ... N/T
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! Knowing that we’re not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
You do understand, Sarah
that if you don’t tie in Obama AND Clinton, there will be little notice. I put up a thoughtful piece on how the whole damn planet is melting in front of our eyes, twice as fast as anyone thought, and got no comments at all.
Here, with an HRC/BHO-free very reasonable proposal for discussion of the role of disturbing images and self-involvement in art and politics, you should consider yourself to have been substantively noticed.
A comparative tsunami of commentary.
And exactly so, SSS; if she was actually pregnant, where are the little plastic sticks with blue spots?
Thanks for the notice, really.
The candidate wars are … wearing thin … for me. I’ve changed jobs (thank you FSM) in the last week as well.
But this seemed to me to be a bit of intellectual exercise, or maybe creative exercise, in which a young woman might be able to compete with Spielberg/Lucas (remember the monkey brain banquet in the 2nd Indiana Jones movie? Yep. Seven-year-olds couldn’t’ve come up with a more effective eeeuuuuww moment if they’d known about compressed air and porcine foramen magnum aerosolization, IMNVHO).
My question might be, just because a thing can be done, should it be done?
Ew, more "brain mist"
I’d put that picture out of my mind…
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
Yes
Short answer.
Somebody has to do the dumb stuff, so the rest of us can learn from them. It’s either God’s Will or a mandate of Darwinian evolution, I forget which.
But what was this young “lady’s” goal?
So there’s that then. What else she may have been aiming for I can’t imagine, unless it would be a lot of college boys lining up for participation in her next project.
Plus I’m unaware of any reliable herbal abortifactant so there’s some considerable doubt about whether her claims are real, which would be one thing and potentially arguable from some moral basis depending on the length of the pregnancy, or false which would be very clever and quite the prank; the “art” then being not the installation itself but rather the reaction she provoked to it.
So. Yes. If it can be done, somebody should try to do it. I may be mistaken, but isn’t that the essence of young Southern manliness?
Bringiton, that's the essence of *something* ...
but until I read about this young woman’s exploit, I always thought the most obvious identifying characteristic was, “Hold my beer and watch this …”
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! Knowing that we’re not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
Oh, snap!
Sarah, I was going to wade into the fray, but your comment is better…
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
I Guess I Don't Understand Art
or at least the art of self-promotion.
And, don’t worry, BIO, I read your piece on the earth melting, I didn’t comment for the same reason I haven’t commented much on the torture revelations, I don’t know what to say. None of it is a surprise. All of it is depressing.
"Haywach'iss"
is, I believe, the correct pronunciation for the most frequently uttered last words of young Southern males.
I would rather spend the afternoon looking at this young woman’s abortions than I would listening to another debate, yet they keep happening and I keep tuning in. I swear every morning when I awaken that I won’t get caught up in another trivial pursuit thread and yet I read all the way through every single yes*he*did-no*she*didn’t like a crack head with new baggie full of rocks.
Please, more abortion art esthetics questions, and mental images of aerosolized pig brains. Save me from myself.
I'd push that a little -- young Western males say it too. N/T
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! Knowing that we’re not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
We're slower Way out West; last words most often heard here:
Oh, shit!
When is an abortion art piece not an abortion art piece?
From AP via The Oakland Tribune:
No word at this time on whether or not Shvarts is an Obama or Clinton supporter.
I was going to say...
Given this,
She said she was not concerned about any medical effects the forced miscarriages may have had on her body. The abortifacient drugs she took were legal and herbal, she said, and she did not feel the need to consult a doctor about her repeated miscarriages.
I had a hard time believing this could be real. Because where are these legal herbal abortifacient drugs that are reliable and which you can take without worrying about any effects they’d have on your body?
it's a great success, i think--
i don’t love it as art, but as performance and political action, it worked perfectly—the country thought and took notice.
Performance art and political action
Just following along here:
Telling a big whopping lie is successful even after you’re exposed, so long as the country took notice and thought about it.
No discrimination as to what people in the country thought, or the reasons they took notice; it is enough that they did.
Providing a vividly constructed, arresting object that is both a complete deceit and an intellectually reflective mirror that the viewer can be distanced from by the deceptiveness while simultaneously being allowed to freely project their pre-existing feelings, whatever they may have been, works perfectly to get the country’s attention. Whether or not it is transformative means nothing.
There is more than a little in common betwen Ms. Shvarts’ campaign tactics and those of Sen. Obama; largely, if not entirely, smoke and mirrors with no particular objective beyond self-promotion through playing on the feelings of the audience. As performance art, such auto-reflective constructs are considered politically perfect; as actual political strategems, however, they are judged by some to be insufficient while others are entranced. What if there is no difference?
Thesis: Barack Obama’s candidacy is performance art. Discuss.
That's why I love you, BIO
You can be a pain sometime :) But then you pull something like this.
It’s very true. It is a marketing campaign, which is nothing more than getting people to notice something about nothing.
This artist’s actions were just something about nothing. Many people sat up and took notice, and formed an opinion about it. The same thing can be said for the Obama campaign.
Maybe, when Hillary gets the nomination ;) she can get Axelrod to run her campaign?
Bill Clinton for First Dude!!!
you're exactly right, bio--
and that’s why some of us have always been skeptical of the branding/campaign/marketing of him.
If it was presented as art or as performance on the other hand, it would be a success too. Different goals, different process, different aims, …