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Drum to Hillary: You clean up the Wright mess

Apparently, it not only takes a Clinton to clean up after a Bush, it takes a Clinton to clean up after the Unity Pony. Sweet:

Hillary Clinton could go a long way toward easing the tension that's threatening to open a very deep breach within the Democratic Party. And she should. It wouldn't be easy: she's not a naturally gifted speaker, as Obama and Bill Clinton are, and every word she said would be scrutinized for double meaning and disingenuousness. Still, why shouldn't the white candidate talk about this too?

I agree with Kevin, actually, but there's a time and a place for everything:

How about during Hillary's acceptance speech?

NOTE I cut the "much of it her own doing" part from Kevin's post, because the place to have that discussion is here.

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Submitted by BDBlue on

Hillary can do it after she's won so that there won't be an Obama campaign to call her racist anymore. Having been repeatedly smeared as racist, I can't believe Hillary Clinton is eager to give an entire speech that can then be picked apart to show how racist she is.

One of the truly damaging things to come out of Obama's "national conversation on race" is the smearing of the Clintons as racists. Because if Bill and Hillary Clinton can be smeared that way, what white politician can't be? And if that's the case, why would any white politician (or, more accurately, non-black politician) ever want to discuss race in any meaningful way? Far from moving discussion of racial issues forward, the Obama campaign has shut it down.

And, you have to love the irony that the one white politician who probably could've come to Obama's aid over Wright is Bill Clinton, especially with working class voters. If not in the primary, then at least in the general election. Now, of course, that he's been smeared as racist, he's a lot less helpful to Obama if Obama is the nominee.

Obama built this box himself and he's going to have to find a way out of it.

Submitted by lambert on

... is that we never had the conversation at all.

Obama gave The Bestest Speech In The History Of All Sentient Beings, the Boiz creamed their chinos, the Wright matter went away for awhile, and then we heard **crickets*** from Obama or anyone else. Making me, goodness, just a little cynical about the measure of good faith behind it all.

Now Wright is back, Obama didn't drive that conversation, nor did his supporters, so there's no new narrative, he can't give a transcendant speech twice on the same topic, since that would meant the first one wasn't, in fact, The Bestest, everybody's more dug in and pissed off than ever, and Obama still hasn't closed the deal.

And I'm playing the world's smallest violin.

Badly, of course, since I'm a racist.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by willyjsimmons on

that link up as well BDBlue...

and here I am at work without any popcorn!?!?!

Terrible boy scout I am.

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Submitted by willyjsimmons on

Says Wright said one thing that was true: He was never Obama's mentor or spiritual advisor. "He was my pastor, married Michelle and I, baptized my children, prayed with us when we announced this race, so I'm disappointed."

Muahahahahahahahahahah!

Oh baby. That's...BOOM THWAP KAPOW! (david letterman)

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Submitted by gqmartinez on

I have some email correspondence with Kevin Drum from the days before South Carolina. He was harping about how it was the Clintons playing the race card and I asked him why he didn't bother to mention that Delores Huerta and John Lewis, two civil rights pioneers nearly beaten to death for their causes, said that it was the Obama campaign deliberately playing the race card. And that even Jesse Jackson mocked the idea that the Clintons were playing the race card. He replied something along the lines of, well, they are both doing it.

A month or so later, around the time of the first Wilentz article when Kev realized that the Obama camp was pushing the race card a little too far I sent a snarky note with our previous correspondence attached saying I no longer visit his site and that history will hold him partially responsible for the race problems since he was clearly an enabler. He said it was odd that I was leaving after he "saw the light", rather than justify his comments. Just like Obama, stupidity is never their fault.

Submitted by lambert on

undercarriage

Seriously, though, the question isn't whether Obama will throw Wright under a bus, since he already did that once. The question is whether Wright will stay there.

And if I were Wright, I wouldn't. My parishioner pisses over my life's work and my church on national TV, and so I go quietly? Sure, turn the other cheek, but also bringeth not peace but a sword.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by BDBlue on

According to Jeralyn, Obama repeatedly said that Wright had given a "performance" and "commanded center stage." I can't believe Wright is going to sit quiet for that.

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Submitted by willyjsimmons on

Curious to see how this plays out in the black community.

This is turning into a nice Rap Beef.

LOL.

The HIPHOP community owes Ja Rule an apology.

**take some time to wrap your minds around that one**

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Submitted by willyjsimmons on

link

Obama can’t and will never ever be able to do that as president of this country. But I will still vote for him with the understanding that his contributions during his first four years are more inspirational to minorities than tangible.

Obama's failures will be rationalized to the point of no return, I'm afraid.

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Submitted by BDBlue on

and that's what you'll get. No matter the politician.

I understand why AAs support Obama, but they would get more from him if they made him work for it a little more. That's politics.

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Submitted by willyjsimmons on

I understand why AAs support Obama, but they would get more from him if they made him work for it a little more. That’s politics.

Tavis Smiley got thrown under the bus for even suggesting being skeptical of Obama.

I've got enough 'inspiration' in my life...personally. Can't speak for other black folk, but that sounds like a bunch of doo doo bullshit to my ears.

Why more people aren't hearing it is my question?

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Submitted by BDBlue on

You could email Garin. He's specifically asked for ideas.

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Submitted by amberglow on

-- and i'd like to see the DNC involved too...definitely let Clinton and Dean know.

And state parties should be helping make sure everyone has picture ids as well.

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Submitted by whaleshaman on

I'm sorry, I don't know how to do that and hoped by posting here I would get suggestions like this.

I don't even know who Garin is [ducking the rotten tomatoes! don't tell him], sorry all.

Can any body help -- know his email address you can post here?

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Submitted by jeqal on

I'll go for this. Levin voted against the war in Iraq. I don't think he's falling for this horsey who ha. I know I didn't, haven't, hopefully wouldn't, until that changes call me a Democrat.

“Democrats have a habit of falling in love with candidates on the first date.”

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Submitted by amberglow on

search around Hillary's websites--Garin is the new Mark Penn--he's running the campaign now--very nice guy, it seems like. here's her general contact page, but dig deeper there to get individual email addresses, and contact info for her campaign offices near you too (See the right side of that contact page)-that's a good way to get info to them without so many barriers--

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/help/contact/

and also email state Democratic party offices and local ones from their websites too--esp those in your area--all Democrats everywhere are worried about the ID thing especially.

and your local senator and reps and stuff, and county democratic people....

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Submitted by amberglow on

i'm terrible too--the changes in weather's killing my head--and this time of year is always bad, allergy-wise.

(at work even people who don't get hayfever are sneezing this year.)

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Submitted by koshembos on

Ggmartinez has a truthful and shameful chronology of Kevin Drum's "outrage" at the famous racists: the Clintons. Drum and his fellow bloggers lined up behind the racist Obama with glee and cheer. Now the same slow minds, with the depth of a puddle, are sending Hillary to put out Obama's fire. Well guys, how about you boyz pissing on the fire yourself?

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Submitted by amberglow on

and let us know so we can amplify in our areas, etc....or copy what you did if it works...

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Submitted by Truth Partisan on

Isn't Drum merely following the Clinton Rules? Clinton has to help Obama campaign--and win--right? Or she's not doing her job right.
Wow, that was a fast use of the rules.

Love the picture of under the bus, lambert...

BTW, Clinton has already given lots of speeches mentioning race in America and how to fix problems; and Mr. Drum? She already has an impressive record on helping people of color, both as a politician and a volunteer. She gets what's happening.

Here's a bit from her speech in March on the subprime crisis:
2.2 million foreclosure notices went out last year - up 75% from 2006. Communities of color have been especially hard hit. Subprime loans are five times more common in predominantly African American neighborhoods than predominantly white ones. And 41% of loans to Hispanics are subprime compared to only 22% to whites.

She then goes on to say how important house ownership is and proposes specific solutions on how to fix the problems.

Wait, is there a Clinton rule about how she has to do things many times over--or twice as well--before they count?

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Submitted by trishb on

Wait, is there a Clinton rule about how she has to do things many times over—or twice as well—before they count?

Backwards and in high heels.

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Submitted by amberglow on

that's the rule for all women, and then add in how everything is either the Clintons' fault and/or responsibility, and you get some kind of Houdini bondage thing, i guess.

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Submitted by gqmartinez on

I just went over the emails between Kevin Drum and myself an here was part of Drum's last reply to me:

In any case, there's a difference between the "campaign" and "campaign surrogates." People on both sides are deliberately blurring that line pretty seriously these days. The kabuki outrage is nonstop now.

Jesse Jackson Jr. was a campaign co-chair and deliberately injected race into the campaign. Conveniently for Kev, he can be "blurred" into just a surrogate. But, a pox on both their houses seems sufficient for Kevin to ignore what really went on.

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Submitted by Truth Partisan on

Fortunately, Clinton has some Houdini untangling skills. That's one of the reasons she'll be an excellent prez.
Didn't she already say something about moving on from this though? Yes--yesterday! Before Drum's post, right? She said to a reporter that it shouldn't politicized and that McCain shouldn't make a big deal of it (www.talkleft.com --second main page now.)

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Submitted by myiq2xu on

when she said Rev. Wright wouldn't be her pastor?

Funny how Obama eventually agrees with her.

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