this could have been published months ago, but they always hold these things until they don’t matter.

a way to demean a candidate who clearly has the superior resume, debating skills and platform by humiliating them into taking the VP slot. I will be very upset if Hillary considers this option. I would much rather see her back in the senate as majority leader.

I love this job!

It is a contradiction in terms to be a sexist progressive, or a racist progressive, or a dishonest progressive.

The silence has been more than deafening, it has been clarifying. You don’t have to support Hillary Clinton to be against the sexism and misogyny which have relentlessly bombarded her, you don’t even have to be a Democrat, or a progressive, you just have to be principled. Or maybe you just have to have class.

That so many sit idly by while this has gone on, while so many snicker in their sleeves as they benefit from it, as those who should (AND DO!) know better say nothing because, “well, it’s just Hillary, not anybody I like”, tells you all you need to know about how bankrupt our political culture is, how broken even the CONCEPT of progressivism has become and how completely co-opted the Democratic party has become by decades of jealously looking at the Republican party’s supposed “successes”. It has now boiled down to “win at any cost”. Principles? Fairness? What’s that? Winning is the only thing that counts.

Y’know what? Fuck that.

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Good night and good riddance!

enough to where my last CA vote is a protest against a congresswoman I really like.

Endorsements are other’s prerogatives and it doesn’t really change my opinion of the person either way. However, the silence in the face of the relentless onslaught against Hillary has made me reevaluate my Democratic Party participation. That is in addition to the seeming gaming of the primary system, which is almost equally offensive.

that’s hard for me to get over. We have a candidate whose movement has leveraged misogyny to win and a party that has sat silently by while he does it. They have done this even though more than half of their voters are women and no democrat can win any elected office without women voters. I haven’t decided what I’m going to do in November (other than NOT vote for McCain), but I won’t blame any woman who decides the Democratic Party is not worth it and tells them to go fuck themselves. And Reclusive Leftist is right, Democrats wouldn’t expect any other group to put up with this shit. If the media had launched a racist assault against Obama on the level of what’s been launched at Hillary, and democrats sat silent, nobody would expect AAs to show up and punch the (D). There would be all kinds of hand-wringing about how the party could make it up to them and worry about losing their votes. As there should be. Well, I want to hear how my party is going to make up this moral failure to ME.* It better be fucking fantastic.

* Making Hillary VP isn’t going to do it. You don’t get to leverage misogyny to win the race and then “award” the woman the second place consolation prize and get credit for it.

another word about a unity ticket. Just another way to tell Hillary to shut up. Why should she give her terrific resume, her base and her *political legacy* to the empty suits (Obama and Edwards). In the words of David Allen Coe, take this job and shove it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELhTDBUzJ…

I love this job!

Just because the campaign may be so over, doesn’t mean this shit goes away with the candidate.

It’s not Clinton who brought it with her, but it resides dormant to lesser or greater degrees always there to provide push-back to women and men who don’t co-operate.

The fact that it was ignored and not addressed by the DeaNC means it clearly is not my friend. And I will forget it at my peril. And a wink wink, we’ll take care of it for you baby once we win, well that stopped working for me about 45 years ago.

[If that’s too much me me me meme for anyone — oh well, that’s life.]

He really wasn’t where it’s at
After he took from you everything he could steal.
How does it feel?

There are reasons to support a Unity Ticket. First, if that’s what Hillary wants, I trust her judgement on this particular issue. She’s acutely aware of her place in women’s history and what her campaign means in a broader context. So if she decides accepting the VP slot is a good thing, I’m okay with that.

Second, if she’s the VP nominee, then it almost guarantees her the nomination if Obama crashes and burns over the summer. Something that I don’t think is probable, but I do think is possible (I put the odds at about 20%). Between her delegate count and being on the ticket, the party would have no choice.

Having said all of that, I don’t know that putting her on the ticket is sufficient for me to get over my very real problems with the party. I don’t want McCain to be president, but I’m also deeply disappointed - no, make that angry - the the democratic party. It goes further than Obama. I’m just trying to figure out what the best way is to express that. Certainly, they’re getting no donations from me this year. I’ll direct my donations to particular candidates who deserve it and Emily’s List. I will likely change my registration as protest and I think it might be effective if people upset with the misogyny could pick a date (let’s call it Independents Day) and all re-register at the same time. As for my vote, I’ve decided to wait and see if they do anything to ask for it. And when they do, they better not call me sweetie.

If Obama is the nominee, the Democratic Party will go down in the history books as being so misogynistic it preferred to throw an election and splinter the party than win.* This will be the Democratic “Southern Strategy”—except that, uh, instead of winning and realigning the political map, they’ll lose in a landslide and delegitimize themselves. Good to see that the Democrats will stick to, at least, one of their principles: losing.

Also, I must say how odd it is that supposedly backward, inbred states like WV and KY are ready to put bigotry past them to choose a woman nominee—who just happens to the best qualified and strongest GE candidate hands down—and yet they’re the unwashed masses. What does that make Dean and the rest of the Party?

*Misogyny is the critical element to this civil warfare within the Democratic Party; think of it as the American, misogynistic version of the Dreyfus Affair, a case where antisemitism fed the explosive divisions within French politics and society.

GUTSY Elizabeth Edwards Not Part of Endorsement–Outshines Husband in “Courage of Convictions” Department (only a week after couple tells “People” they won’t endorse) (UPDATED)

…with a video link to a copycat performance by Obama that Edwards also “forgot….”

http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/

And, re: Unity ticket…yeah…Clinton/E. Edwards!

Bingo. Double bingo. Triple fucking bingo. Special Bazillion-Dollar Jackpot Happy Hour Triple-Bonus Pony bingo. I do have just one nit to pick with the headline:

Are you sure it shouldn’t be “Special Brazillion-Dollar Jackpot Happy Hour Triple-Bonus Pony bingo.

I mean how can Dona Brazille enable this kind of treatment towards other women is beyond me. Especially in her DNC role.

Because all those false and slanderous things that get said about Clinton are actually true about Brazile….

I mean, you want Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction? That is Brazile — with the Clintons are Ann Archer, and the Democratic Party is Michael Douglas…

The DNC will be reorganized after this election. It starts at your local Dem committee, the CD Dem Committess, the state central committees which elect members of the DNC. Find out who your members are. Start working to get some new ones who respect women and will demand that their chair do likewise.

Also, start looking for women candidates for 2010. Obviously you can vote for women this year, but start looking for women candidates for 2010, and not just at the federal level, and not just in government. Women candidates for pres of the chamber of commerce, women candidates for pres of your local medical society, women leaders at every level of society. That is the only way we can change this trash.

I’m thinking of not voting for this guy. The congressional district I live has a good chance of replacing a retiring repub with a democrat. I’m thinking of not voting the pres/vpres line and just voting for down line races.

What these so called “progressives” have done to Hillary is an atrocity.

…but start looking for women candidates for 2010, and not just at the federal level, and not just in government.

After fighting for Senator Clinton, this is what’s most important right now. I’ve said elsewhere on other occasions that funding women at the local level is the best way to build up a cache of progressive women to compete at the state and federal level in the coming years. EMILY’s list does a decent job for women at the state and fed level but I really think we need to start supporting women further down the food chain. $10,000 is just a drop in the bucket at the state and fed level but at the local level it can make a big difference in getting someone elected.

I love this job!

Donna “I’m wealthy” Brazile?

If you know someone who is a pro-choice democratic woman who is interested in running for state/local office, there are resources to help. Check out Emily’s List POP program - http://www.emilyslist.org/programs/pop/ . It was started after the number of women elected to state and local offices declined in 2000 for the first time in 30 years.

This is one reason why I laughed when Aravosis played concern troll for how much money Hillary is forcing poor Emily’s List to spend. Yeah, check out how many of their POP candidates have been winning primaries this year. Think it might have anything to do with all the women voters Clinton is energizing? And Hillary gets this, it isn’t just about her. It’s about organizing women politically for the future. They’re also leveraging Emily’s List’s Women Vote Program, see http://www.emilyslist.org/programs/women…

for the links. You’re awesome.

The DNC has been preferring males to women, in Michigan they did nothing to help a woman who was favored but had no money to back her, she lost by a hand full of votes, it was one of the congressmen tickets. In another area where a man was running they poured money onto him, and he was not a favored to win candidate and he lost.
It was pretty annoying, this happened the congressman voting cycle before last. It was the first time that I viewed the DNC’s non support of women, specifically and ESPECIALLY if they are white.

You know, as immigration continues, and the immigrants are consistently from cultures that do not have a positive view of women, what exactly do people think is going to happen in the US?

I just attended a lecture by a professor who was surprised to discover that the environment and poverty have an inverse relationship.
Hello!
Sometimes I believe I live in my own universe where cause and effect are understood, looking out at other people’s universes where there are only solutions that have no repercussions.
mmm, well ok so I am doing that. Why remind me?

The latest stupidity imo, is the rush to force the US to open it’s oil reserves. What so people can save 2 cents a gallon, that is moronic, now more than ever we need to hoard. All three candidates are for letting it gush forth, without the thought in their heads that the oil will still need to be replenished, if that is not done then when emergencies happen we will not be prepared.

Maybe we need to rethink who we have in Congress and the Senate. Personally I’m voting against the incumbents this election. I will not be voting for Obama, I think he has more of his own interests in the pot, much moreso than Bush, and that to me is more than frightening.

“The great divide in this country is not by race or even income, it’s by those who think they are better than everyone else and think they should play by a different set of rules,” —Bill Clinton

Perhaps there’s also a way to use My Space or Facebook, whichever is the one popular with older folks, to set up websites to highlight good progressive women candidates and get money, support to them. Clearly, I have only a little bit of an idea about how to do this, but I’d be interested in discussing it with folks. Organizing is the only way to make anyone care. Run candidates and win.

Can we please call them something other than A-listers, please. They are anything but A-listers.

Thanks.

This is great commentary!

I love it when Lambert gets my bile churning. Makes me remember why I am an avid Hillary supporter. Lambert, you are the best!

Sounds like an idea.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

I have always preferred the term high traffic blogs to A list.

And for the record, I still love Atrios, also xan.

My God, it’s Huckabama.

“Called by Christ” to set back the cause of women by decades through the “Power of Prayer.”

Yes, I lay this at Obama’s feet. He has said not a word, while floating to victory on a rising tide of misogyny.

that’s a ticket I would proudly support.

Two strong women who are willing to stand up and fight for what they believe in.

Two intelligent women who won’t let the Boyz or the MCM decide for them.

Unfortunately I don’t think I’ll live long enough to see such a thing, and more’s the pity.

the lack of furor over how Hillary is regarded compared with the relatively quick response over the Obama/Curious George t-shirt being sold in Georgia. Everyone is all over that. And it’s really hysterical that Wil Wheaton likens her to a crazy ex-girlfriend. And John Aravosis is just saying what everyone thinks.

But a Hillary nutcracker? Why, where’s your sense of humor? /snark

The silence “speaks” the loudest, doesn’t it?

As a foreigner, I am flabbergasted by the misogyny and disrespect shown to Senator Clinton. She gets more respect in other countries compared to her own. A former first lady. A hardworking public servant for decades, loyal to her party and country.

This is what she gets. Unbelievable.

as opposed to myspace. Change.org is a social network specifically for activist purposes.

Maybe if we collectively brainstormed, maybe bring in the Confluence folks, Democratic Daily, etc., we might get some good ideas.

Hey Lambert, maybe you could organize a Symposium of some sort here. Bring in the REAL progressives and let’s start something.

That’s not a bad idea. Blogosphere 2.0, and all.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

I really am feed up with all the Clinton hate. The best President of my lifetime and their own party beats them up. I am sickened by the hate and lies directed at them and me for supporting Hillary.
At this place and time I can not say for sure that I will not vote for McCain if Hillary is not the choice for President, but I know I will not vote for that racist, sexist, B. Hussein Obama and his cult following. By voting for him that means you also support the ones (Kos, Huffington, TPM,etc….) who helped and turned a blind eye to it.
The funny thing is, on the “A” list blogs, they all used to bitch about democrats will not fight and now Hillary is fighting her heart out and they ask WWTSBQ. Is that the definition of irony or what.

[Do it. Do it. Do it. Great idea. Do it. Do it.]

If you really want to hear the “silence” just try asking one of the Obama supporters if they even know who and why they are so fervently backing. If they don’t come back with “your are a racist and loser” retort the line goes dead. Oh well, when you are only 21 yrs old I suppose the hardest answer you were ever asked is if you had remembered to pick up your socks off the floor.

I can’t wait to vote against Obama this fall!

I! Can’t! Wait!

the utter dismissive treatment for a VP of NOW. The contempt shown by a powerful senator for the CodePink women. The way that in the midst of the Bush administration handing power in Iraq over to woman killing fundamentalist militia’s a member of the Senate could stand up and congratulate the President for the “success” of his policies. The way that 3 years later, as Iraqi women had been forced in chadors and seen their status degraded to the status of women in tribal Waziristan, a Senator could laud the US military’s alliance with tribal enforcers in Anbar Province as something that should have happened much earlier.

Unacceptable.

or any of the cable talk/shout shows, ruins analysts and writers.

I think, before a discussion of specifics of PB2.0, there should be some serious philosophical discussions. Here’s one thing that always irked me: Crooks and Liars links to DKos which links to Digby which links to FDL which links to TPMInc. TMPInc links to C&L which links to Digby which links to FDL which links to DKos. Etc.

There was always a “you scratch-my-back-I’ll-scratch-yours” effect. Sure they tried to include some smaller blogs every now and then, but this ended up leading to the consolidation of power. I’m not sure PB2.0 is really going to be any better. The “crashing of the gate” has turned into a repetition of the MSM, only it did so much faster.

If PB2.0 were really a worthwhile goal, off the top of my already jumbled head, I’d say there should be a lose federation of issue-oriented groups, like the conservative think tank structure. It’s good to have the meat and potatoes (issue oriented) separated from messengers (e.g. the Heritage Foundation types). The meat and potatoes folks can always say buh-bye to the messengers. The messengers (some lazy ass like me who likes to bloviate) should be easily replaceable while the meat and potatoes folks should be long term.

The “crashing of the gate” was a power trip and thats it. If there is a PB2.0 it should be about changing the narrative. Conservatives, for a long time, had been trying to manipulate both Dems and GOPers. The last two decades, however, they hitched their pony to the GOP exclusively. The decline of the conservative movement will be linked to that. The so-called progressive blogosphere is already on the decline after only a few years because they hitched their wagon to the Dems exclusively and went even further to hitch it onto a single individual.

I’m only interested in PB2.0 if its about changing the narrative, not as a tool for the Democratic Party. As it is, the Dems seem to be snuggling up to the libertarians. That’s an automatic deal breaker for me. I’ll take me a hard-core Quaker over a libertarian any day.

At the end of the latest episode, Denny Crane and Alan Shore are smoking cigars and drinking scotch on the balcony (the very embodiments of male entitlement), and Alan Shore says, “well, our generation has certainly screwed things up royally, so maybe we should just turn it over to the upcoming generation” (or words to that effect).

What he obviously overlooked is that it is MEN who have royally screwed things up. And maybe, just maybe, it is time to get a WOMAN in there to clean up the mess!

with a few ideas.

Do I dare?? Heh… what the hell

“YES WE CAN” (runs and hides) :-)

This is not an entirely new concern and it has been raised repeatedly, especially regarding women bloggers.

Hey, Lambert, I think we got one session of our conference right here, and our main speaker!

See here. You will see immediately that a federated concept is not only the way to keep conversation going, as opposed to rallies, but also makes the network far less vulnerable to attack (as the “hubs” in blogosphere 1.0 were attacked and destroyed). Two minds, single thought. Except I called it ;-)

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

I NEVER affiliated with cheetoville because it was already fundamentalist in 2006.

But hey, the most important thing is to get it right, and soon. PB2.0 is already falling into the trap.

If it’s falling into the trap, then it’s not what we want to be doing. Eh?

Agree on narrative. Transcends issues. Gotta go…

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

He’s said dozens of them. All opening the door to his supporters so they can do the dirty work while he feigns “class and style”.
The “super cool” flip off to HRC was a beaut.

Or laugh.

Sexism, racism and ageism all on one page!!

Campaigns the Candidates Wish They Could Run

Bill Clinton for First Dude!!!

with pitchforks and torches.

Where the original “progressive” blogosphere went wrong is it never settled on an ideology.

At best it had an agenda (end the war, impeach Bush) but it never really defined what progressive meant. It focused on gaining power by winning elections, assuming that since Republicans were bad that Democrats were good (except for the ossified blue dogs.)

We need to define ourselve with clear moral and political principles, then use those principles to determine our agenda, strategy and tactics.

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“A true friend stabs you from the front” -Oscar Wilde

Oh well, when you are only 21 yrs old I suppose the hardest answer you were ever asked is if you had remembered to pick up your socks off the floor.

Didn’t realize that there were so many 21 year old slackers out there. Amazing that Obama can get millions of them to show up to vote for him and even contribute.

… finds a truffle every so often.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

At the end of the latest episode, Denny Crane and Alan Shore are smoking cigars and drinking scotch on the balcony (the very embodiments of male entitlement), and Alan Shore says, “well, our generation has certainly screwed things up royally, so maybe we should just turn it over to the upcoming generation” (or words to that effect).
What he obviously overlooked is that it is MEN who have royally screwed things up. And maybe, just maybe, it is time to get a WOMAN in there to clean up the mess!
Submitted by jackyt on Thu, 2008-05-15 12:41.

WOMAN is not meant to be the cleanup-slave, not intended to be the one saddled with always having to deal with the dregs in the (greasy, fingerprinted, spilled-sideways) glasses and the butts of the (stinky, chewed-over) cigars and the dirty underwear piled on the floor around the urinals the guys were too drunk to aim at last night, and then be good in bed at the drop of a hat and a pTa mom in pearls and heels after working a 10 hour day for money too. Screw that. Screw that whole fornicating misogynistic image, and all the attributions and implications it begs people to pile onto any woman who wants to have any kind of life that isn’t relegated to servanthood and childbearing.

The whole point of this election is that it’s long past damn time to recognize the worth of women as thinking beings with legitimate concerns and a point of view regarding such divergent issues as diplomacy, war, and the price of a meal for four people that can be made in under an hour without dirtying up every dish and utensil in the house, they can plan and they do work and for every hour they spend on the job they make 1/5 less than a man in the same job, even though in order not to be thought incompetent they have to do twice as well as that same man.

A WOMAN in there to clean up the mess, because it’s a woman’s place — no, no, no, no, no, no, hell no, that’s not progressive thinking in any way shape form fashion or flavor.

Don’t go there. Just don’t go there, because I am about an eighth of one sixteenth an RCH off ballistic already, and all the crap about how women should know and maintain their place, and it’s far from the top of the heap, is really pissing me off right now.

Does the world really need a Boadicea or an Athena or an Artemis, or a Xena, to show what a woman can do, will do, and how she shouldn’t be stereotyped?

Because if so the world is in a boatload of hurt, and it’s not going to get anybody to come wescue its widdle self from itself, either — it’s going to have to get its collective head out of its collective posterior without a woman to wipe its nose or wash its butt or tell it everything’s going to be okay, here’s a cookie and some milk, there, there be a big boy now and make your daddy proud.

The women we have are women like Hillary — savvy women, beautiful women, grown women who’ve lived and loved and lost and lusted and hurt over it all, smart women who know that sexy isn’t just a pearl in your navel and protuberant ribs, it’s being able to take care of yourself and your family and standing up on your hind feet just the same as though you were a human being and demanding the respect due any other adult.

I am damned proud to be one of them, and I’m damned proud of Hillary Clinton for not shutting up and being a sweet little lady and going home to her tea and dollies.

We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! Knowing that we’re not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0

See here.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

Lambert and all the comments. I’ve got my pitchfork. Ready to roll.

Some women in Ohio are trying to organize women Clinton supporters not to vote for Obama in the fall. Of course, the male reporter has NO IDEA if there’s been any sexism in this campaign. Because apparently he’s blind and stupid.

If Obama’s the nominee, I don’t know how I’m going to vote in the fall, except not for McCain, but I say let’s get this out now. We’re mad as hell at the party and sitting home brooding isn’t going to do us any good. And, of course, a lot of the comments are from men basically telling women to “get over it” and that of course we’ll all be good girls and vote for Obama. Let’s hope the party does a better job responding because I can’t say that it’s great political strategy to tell more than 50% of your voters to go fuck themselves.

Seriously, I’m a writer and analyst, not an organizer. But it seems reasonable to me that nothing will be done without first seeing and accepting that something needs to be done.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

And everyone else offended.

Get on the superdelegates and those who control them; Dean, Reid and Pelosi.

Raise all holy hell. Shout and stomp and tell them, Enough of this guy; We Want Hillary.

Threaten to stay home in the fall. Why not? The Obama camp has threatened that’s what they’ll do so turnabout is fair play.

(I will be back regardless to beg for your vote “against” McCain, never fear.)

Now, sic ’em. Chew ’em up real good.

Texas, most likely, won’t go Dem this fall — and if Obama is the nominee, it might even come a little closer, depending on who makes it out to the polls.

If I lived 78 miles west of here it’d be different.
As it is, I can vote a straight Dem downticket and do as much good as I would pushing the “one button” option on that %$#$^&@!#$!%$!#@ machine.

Without having to avoid mirrors because I’d’ve spit up all my integrity, just like the politicians I believed in.

We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! Knowing that we’re not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0

Some are born to greatness, others have it thrust upon them.

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“A true friend stabs you from the front” -Oscar Wilde

Way too many bad precedents there. Na ga happen.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

… and give contact info? I saw the other thing, uncast the die momentarily, and am looking at it.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

Still do. Never could see the point to a fraternity.

Oh, and your integrity. That belongs to you, dear heart; don’t ever let it depend it on what anyone else does.

We’ll have to see what comes of his Edwards thing; maybe he’s smarter than me. Meantime, I have nowhere given up on Clinton’s chances and neither, I hope, have you. Seriously, chew on the big dogs, and give ’em hell. Threaten any kind of vengance you can think of. This is a good time to Inflict Pain.

Look at the percentage of Hispanic turnout from 2004 to 2008 in TX. There was a record turnout and an increase in the percentage of Hispanic participation. Hispanics went overwhelmingly to Hillary. So its hard to reconcile that with Obama driving turnout in the primary, however nice and pretty it fits into the media narrative.

Look at the exit polls from February to now. Besides AA, Obama is losing ground everywhere, including indies. Heck, young people were a smaller percentage of the electorate in PA than in earlier primaries—and that was supposed to be an all important primary. And you still want to believe that Obama will be this magical person to drive turnout in the fall?

The Blah-Blah Sisterhood ;D

You can beg all you want BIO, but I won’t be voting for Obama. I’ll write in Clinton, though I’ll vote Dem downticket(especially since Yarmuth looks to be running against Ann Northup, AGAIN). I won’t add myself to Obama’s popular vote total, and I feel tha 4 yrs of McCain now, is better than 12-16 of a republican starting in 2012.

I’m also considering changing from Dem to Ind on May 22. I’ve always been a big believer of working from inside the system to change it, but I think the Dem Party is a lost cause.

Bill Clinton for First Dude!!!

Email:

Harry Reid

Nancy Pelosi

Howard Dean

Firm. Direct. Honest. Polite.

Enjoy!

I certainly didn’t mean to demean Hillary Clinton in anyway. In fact, I think she’s the only person (not just the only candidate on offer) who I’ve seen who is up to the job of putting the U.S. back on track. Whether foreign or domestic policy, her plans are the only ones I’ve heard that ring true, and she is the one person capable of implementing them.

That said, do I think she’ll be facing one stinking, rotten, cesspool of a mess on day 1? You bet I do! Do we need a really savvy and tenacious president to clean up the mess? You bet we do!

http://steveaudio.blogspot.com/2008/05/t… (see the comments page)

I had bookmarked your post, Clinton Election Juggernaut Escalates, but now it’s gone.

On the subject of superdelegates: no matter how many Democrats I have called, none seem to take my concerns seriously, especially about the growing anti-Obama backlash amongst women (One staff member told me it’ll all “blow over”). I feel as though they have all been bought or intimidated by the OFB swarm.

it will be bahk

I read somewhere that folks are more impressed by a snail mail complaint than by email because of the time involved. Is that right? Would I be better off typing my letter to the leadership than emailing them?

I usually write letters and make calls, instead of e-mailing. However, considering the time constraint and the fact I’m not sure how backlogged they are in terms of screening letters, I’d suggest calling them to make sure what they think is best.

snail mail has a whole new meaning for congress, and mostly the other options are bad too.

I’d put it in the comments of your post, but since you’re editing it. Howard Dean’s pollster explains how Obama can get to 270 - http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/200…

If this was supposed to make me feel better about Obama’s chances, it doesn’t.

And his first must-win state is MI. Well done, Obama!

In any case, the issue is not whether Obama can reach 270. The issue is which candidate can reach 270 with the least risk. So bringiton’s piece is a massive takedown of the Salon article.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

was arguing that Obama is stronger than Clinton. In fact, the author acknowledged his weakness against Clinton in Pennsylvania and admitted she would be stronger in Florida. Instead, he’s supposedly explaining how Obama can win. I agree he can win, but boy it sure doesn’t look easy (as the author also admits). Although he did do Obama a favor by not comparing him to Clinton.

The fact that this lunacy is from Dean’s pollster, terrifies me; they’re truly in a bubble, having bought the media hype. He includes PA, WI, and MI as states that favors Obama and considers OH a pure toss-up! He completely discounts the fact that although McCain may not have Obama’s financial resources, he’ll have the media in his pocket, 527s as pit bulls, and the comfort of knowing Obama will have to spend precious resources and time to stave off defeat in “blue” states like CA, NJ, and MA. Obama can outspend a demonized, cash-strapped candidate 4-1 and still lose by 10 points so how in the hell can he beat McCain? And this is all before the media begins to actually scrutinize Obama.

Even if his “cautious” fantasy is reality, Clinton remains—by far—the stronger GE candidate and the whole point of the supers is to maximize our chances, not hope we barely cross 270.

If this is how Dean’s pollster sees Obama’s chances, then I’d say there’s reason for the party to be concerned. Any analysis that includes PA as a must win is a troublesome one for Obama, IMO. it was certainly more realistic than all those DKOS diaries about how “Obama’s Going to Expand the Map, We Don’t Need Pennsylvania!” Obama can win if only because people hate Republicans right now. But even in this environment, it’s clear that this pollster expects a very tough race for him. That anyone who may be close to Dean realizes this and admits it, is a good thing, IMO. I certainly don’t expect anyone close to the Dem leadership to declare Obama toast publicly, that would be terrible for the party.

Thanks BDBlue, boggled here and I wouldn’t have seen it.

Read the article for full flavor, Davidson; this is anything but a starry-eyed view. The term the author uses is “a hard slog” which is exactly right. What this piece makes clear is that Obama’s best case path is not clear or certain.

IMHO this could be a trial balloon from Dean - it is his ex-pollster who just happens to write this now - to gauge the pushback to abandoning Obama and start making the walkback. This article is very bad news for Obama.

I read some of the state-by-state profiles and then read the bottom list of strong, likely, and toss-up states. Favoring Obama in PA and OH is a toss-up? Automatically counting “blue” states? Believing Obama’s cash advantage can somehow counter his severe GE flaws? I understand that perhaps he feels its not polite to be blunt, but I’m tired of everyone pussyfooting around the reality; it only makes it worse.

I’ll reread the article tomorrow thoroughly when I’m rested (Who’s had a long day and is sick as a dog? Me!), but I just don’t trust ’em anymore. The media will swarm them if they choose to avoid a GE disaster and Obama won’t be denied without one hell of a fight so there’s every reason to, at least, directly mention Clinton is the stronger GE candidate just to help counter the media narrative that Obama must be the nominee, which fuels the pushback. It’s not like they have a lot of time to gently ease the public, especially after NC/IN.

I don’t trust this meme about the GOP being broke. I think it’s a trap.

I expect their alleged money troubles will vanish instantly some time next fall, especially as far as the 527 groups.

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