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Phil?
Yes John.
We're not going to Oxford tomorrow are we?
No we're not John.
Even if the deal is done?
Nope.
Good, I never could spell Mississippi.
It isn't a spelling bee, John, it's a debate.
Oh, so why did we cancel Phil?
So you could look presidential John.
Good, I like it when I look presidential. How we gonna do that Phil?
You're going to Washington. You'll see the President, you'll take some meetings and you'll make statements showing your leadership and strength.
Great, I can't wait. Got those statements, the ones where I'm a great leader showing great strength?
I'll try to find you some, and I'll bring them to you.
Oh, okay. Anything else?
No, we're done.

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Submitted by goldberry on

...I don't think you're getting what this is all about. Phil Gramm is not behind what is going on politically with John McCain's campaign. He's got a frickin' evil genius working with him with impeccable timing. When all is said and done, the debates really aren't as important as the debate that will happen on the Senate floor in the next couple of days. Now, Obama is being shoved in to doing real work instead of campaigning and we'll see what he's really made of.
This isn't about McCain dodging a debate. It's about boxing Obama into a corner.
Try to pay attention.
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Submitted by Lahdee on

whether it's Phil or Rick or whoever. And while I appreciate your attempt at kindness I can't help but wonder how you missed the point, McCain is not fit for much of anything. Get it? Good.

Submitted by lambert on

... have been fit for much.

Obama already threw homeowners under the bus, so, IMNSHO, the "margin of fitness" between Obama and McCain is rather small -- and a good deal smaller than anyone would have imagined back in January, say.

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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Submitted by Lahdee on

Alas poor John. What's he gonna do now, tea with the mad hatter perhaps?

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Submitted by goldberry on

Some of us would argue that you're screwed no matter who you vote for and maybe even worse if you choose Obama. You may lose your so-called progressive party. It's the point we have been trying to make all year. If Obama capitulates to Republican demands to support their bailout plan without a bottom up solution that fixes mortgages for homeowners left holding the bag, then he will have revealed himself to be what we've been saying all along- firmly in the pocket of the Wall Street gilded capitalists who put up the money for his run. You will know this for sure if there is no spirited debate on the subject of the finance bill and it passes to the house without a provision to restructure mortgages for the common people who don't have the money to buy a politician. He will have betrayed the rest of us.

Got it?
Good.
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Submitted by lambert on

Goldberry:

You will know this for sure if there is no spirited debate on the subject of the finance bill and it passes to the house without a provision to restructure mortgages for the common people who don’t have the money to buy a politician. He will have betrayed the rest of us.

Lahdee:

You just go on and pick McCain over Obama and see how far your pumaness gets you. Pfft!

I know who I think has the stronger argument. Fortunately, Goldberry's position is testable in the very near term!

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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Submitted by elixir on

the candidate best suited for the job. Unfortunately, there are no winners here. In fact, the phrase "the lesser of two evils" doesn't even begin to sum up where we are.

I love how the keep using "maverick" to describe JM. When I was a kid there was a tv show called "Maverick", great western. John McCain is no maverick, he's a loose cannon. Wasn't there a tv show called "Cannon"?.....

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Submitted by gqmartinez on

You've got to be freakin kidding me. Obama cancelled debates with Hillary and weekly townhalls with McCain. No one was crying foul or saying Obama wasn't fit to lead then.

Are Obamaphiles that ignorant or do they think everyone else is? I can't wait for "progressives" to start jumping up and down and tell us how pandering to the religious right has always been on the Democratic agenda and how good it is.

Only tyrants rig elections.

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Submitted by gqmartinez on

Just pointing out that the absurdity of the left is quite astonishing.

Only tyrants rig elections.

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Submitted by gqmartinez on

whenever they are asked an inconvenient question about Obama?

I've been trying to get assurances about Obama for months and all I get are discussions of dominionists and the a priori evilness of McCain. Sure, elections are about winning but why do we have to feed voters BS when they are starving to hear the truth?

I'm starting to get the feeling the so-called progressives and the FKD don't really believe their supposed principles, they keep caving on more and more of them and rigorously justifying the cave-ins. Sigh.

Only tyrants rig elections.

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Submitted by Lahdee on

I appreciate your position. At this point in the cycle it's basic for me, McCain would be a disaster for this country.
Oh, and just for the record, I think the behavior of the DNC in June was disgraceful.

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Submitted by tartu on

or do they think everyone else is [ignorant]?

Ding, ding, ding, ding!

Oh intellectual dishonesty, how do I hate thee.

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Submitted by Damon on

McCain just pulled one of the most transparent and useless stunts that he's ever pulled. And, let's not pretend that Obama is clamouring for debate. He's following through on a pre-arranged debate. Obama may lose more from this stunt than McCain simply because San Juan had the sitting president to back him up throwing Obama off balance, but McCain certainly doesn't win anything from this stunt. He just loses less. IMO, this was a terrible move for McCain.

McCain's not going to get patriot points for such a transparent stunt. He's not going to get patriot points for essentially barging recklessly in on existing negotiating in Congress. This isn't being a maverick, this is being unstable. If Obama looks inconsequential and irrelevant in this because of his relative passiveness, McCain looks just as (if not more) inconsequential and irrelevant for flying the f%ck off the handle.

But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...