So maybe I am just too priveleged to see it, but IMO, it is no worse than Digby's use of the word kabuki, ie Hissy Kabuki, the term she uses when Republicans take to the media to protest whatever idea the Dems are coalescing around.

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How about "peruperu"? It is the war-dance form of haka. From wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haka

"The various types of haka include whakatu waewae, tutu ngarahu and peruperu. The peruperu is characterised by leaps during which the legs are pressed under the body. In former times, the peruperu was performed before a battle in order to invoke the god of war and to discourage and frighten the enemy. It involved fierce facial expressions and grimaces, poking out of the tongue, eye bulging, grunts and cries, and the waving of weapons. If the haka was not performed in total unison, this was regarded as a bad omen for the battle. Often, warriors went naked into battle, apart from a plaited flax belt around the waist. The aim of the warriors was to kill all the members of the enemy war party, so that no survivors would remain to undertake revenge."

Since it is a specific and apt metaphor, it avoids ridiculing ALL of the ceremonial dances of the Maori, some of which even allow women to participate! usually as background singers though.

Can't see why it would be offensive for lefty peace-loving DFH's to ridicule god-invoking war dances that are performed to help warriors "kill all the members of the enemy war party, so that no survivors would remain to undertake revenge."

no women allowed, kill all opposition. . . very apt indeed --

I esp. love this description of peruperu, for obvious reasons:

"fierce facial expressions and grimaces, poking out of the tongue, eye bulging, grunts and cries, and the waving of weapons."

LOL

The OFB definitely remind me of the NZ rugby team when they do their little intimidation dance, but clearly the offense is because of the Maori tie. And I can't blame them, I wouldn't want my culture tied to these assholes either. Although they are a part of my culture.

Yippee!

Hmmmm, will think, will think.....

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or is that ageist?

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From some "person" in the Shakesville comment thread:

"Basically its an attempt to paint Obama supporters as scary dark people, what a suprise coming form hte "enlightened" types at Corrente wire."

I still don't know the sound of one hand clapping.

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that comparing them to the Maori confers upon them a sense of culture and international awareness that probably isn't worthy.

so how about...JAMIGTD

Just Another Misogynistic Inspired Group Think Demonstration

I liken it to the "dance" Mel Gibson did in Braveheart except more dainty.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_dance

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I'm trying to think of a comparable practice in American history, but the only thing I can come up with is the Rebel yell, but that seems to dignify the OFB too much.

Speaking for myself only, circle jerk is icky. (Kind of like the use of the word "seminal," which is still used in academic discourse--why don't people see the ick?)

One finds the Molly Dance:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_dance

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Interesting, herb:

The ploughboys would tour around the village landowners, offering to dance for money.

We may have a winner...

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Contextually correct

along with UofH and two high school teams:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haka_perfor...

Those were actual hakas, we were using the term metaphorically.

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"Those who refused would be penalised in various ways (see Trick or treat) including having a furrow ploughed across the offender's lawn."

I do like this picture though:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Stomp...

It really gives you that feeling of "being one" with the Kos....

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Whale Rider

If it were so spiritual and holy, you'd have to wonder how it is that the AllBlacks Rugby team doesn't get nailed as BLASPHEMERS!
BTW, when I first used that term, I had a comment from a native New Zealnder who thought it was amusing that I even knew what a haka was. But I lived in Hawaii as a kid and knew about most forms of polynesian dance. You should see what tourism has done to the holy hula. Haka is perfectly appropriate. It's a metaphor and since we are engaging in a counter haka, there's nothing at all wrong with it.
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As long as you're happy, I'm happy. We need a more or less uniform lexicon. Although you have to admit that "Molly Dance" did have a certain ring to it.

I do note, however, that the OFB aren't really strong on things like metaphor and irony....

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

Why not use them interchangeably with haka? Of course, *we* don't do Molly Dances.
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That's going to be taken as homophobic.

I thought the whole point, honestly, was that the haka as used by All-Blacks rugby was an inauthentic, appropriating kind of performance. It's not to say that Obama people are doing Maori things, it's that they are doing _pseudo_-Maori things, for show.

It is epic, but not sacred, it is not part of any religious tradition.

What's inappropriate or family-inappropriate about circle-jerk?

The only part of this that troubles me is that you are using the Maori term, and the ritual to which it refers in a highly pejorative context. The fact that it is a war dance means something entirely different than the kind of war ops some of us might be against. There is no doubt that there are fierce aspects of the Maori culture, but in some ways it strikes me as entirely too positive a term to use on the boiz on the blogs. The ritual looks funny to us, or sounds funny in a written description.

I happened to see a Maori dance company in New York, and believe me, they didn't have that impact in person. It's a ritual that is meant to summon war Gods, and as a way to unleash the warrior within, and as a form of intimidation too, and believe me, I had no doubt that this dance, complete with calls and extraordinary sounds could definitely get the job done.

Once again, I'm in the minority here, but I am reminded of the despair Native Americans often feel about the total incomprehension so many privileged college alums display when questions are raised about the use of Indian icons or images as mascots.

That comment about Correntewire pushing the meme of scarey dark men really makeshis old "white" lady angry.

I'm working on a post about the whole Wright matter and I have some criticisms of some of the responses here, but let's be clear - it was the SCLM and in particular many of the black middle class pro-Obama pundits who were clutching their pearls about the Clinton use of the race card, who didn't hesitate a moment to decide that Jeremiah Wright was such a scary black man, too unacceptably angry and extreme and radical, that it was perfectly okay to dismiss him as a deranged narcissist who had deliberately chosen to injure Obama's electoral chances, out of personal jealousy yet, and Wright's forty year history as a pastor could simply be dismissed, and it was Obama who accepted that view of Wright, and acted on it.

I'm not sure he had much choice, but not because of anything that has been said or done at Corrente.

Molly Dance is homophobic?

Someone's PC meter is set to full-on-rage ELEVEN.

I'm doing a haka for the molly dance right now!

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How about whale riding, a fine and noble act of courage??

After all, the theme of the movie of the same name was about a girl whose grandfather couldn't accept her boldness because she wasn't a male child. Here's the IMDB description...

Whale Rider:

Pai, an 11-year-old girl in a patriarchal New Zealand tribe, believes she is destined to be the new chief. But her grandfather Koro is bound by tradition to pick a male leader.

Sound familiar?

Of "saber-rattling."

Post, I've changed my mind(we'll be in the minority together!). We need to change it. And I don't like Molly Dancing, it carries to much baggage. Sabre-rattling is cool, but we need something hipper and cooler(now kewler).

How about lekking, which is where the male deers gather to fight for approval and mating status. Sounds appropriate to me.

Bill Clinton for First Dude!!!

I misunderstood the drift of the entire thread -- I thought....nevermind.

Sorry.

I'll save whale riding for Hillary and supporters, s'all.

Let me try this: how about

The Boiz on the Blogs are cock-a-doodle-doodling? Unless that offends roosters.

How about the Hamster?

Caution: the following link may cause temporary loss of sanity. Much like visiting Kos on any day.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...

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How about a throwback to the Little Rascals:
He Man Woman Haters
That's more of a substitute for "boiz on the blogs."

Maybe good old "circle jerk" for haka.

Well, not to overkill this thing, and we've already moved on, but "molly" really is a loaded word, or at least it used to be. From the Oxford English Dictionary...

1. A girl, a woman, esp. a lower-class one; (occas.) a prostitute. Cf. MOLL n.2 Now chiefly Irish English.

2. slang. An effeminate man or boy; a male homosexual. Also: a man who performs work typically associated with women, or who concerns himself with women's affairs. Cf. MISS MOLLY n., MOLLYCOT n.

[Examples]
1708 E. WARD London Terræfilius V. 10 He behaves himself more like a Catamite, an Eunuch, or one of those Ridiculous Imitators of the Female Sex, call'd Mollies, than like a Son of Adam.
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1728 J. DALTON Narr. Street Robberies 32 A Man who was what they call a Bug to the Mollies,..picking 'em up, as if to commit that damnable Crime of Sodomy.
1785 F. GROSE Classical Dict. Vulgar Tongue, Molly, a miss Molly, an effeminate fellow, a sodomite.

No, it's good you posted this, Flip, since some people are already saying this might be our new word.

"Molly Dancing" is bad!!! Bad in so many ways I can't even begin to name them. It plays into bad gender sterrotypes, femininity, just ugh(shudder).

Like I said, Lekking. It's where the male deer go and indulge in testosterone fueled attacks(what we've seen from the Boiz) in an attempt to earn the approval of mating partners(in this case the media).

Lekking. Lekking. Lekking.....

I'm gonna keep sayin it till someone agrees with me, dammit!

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I like something along the lines of alpha male scent marking but that is too long.

I have a preening cat that is very territorial and thinks he's special--reminds me of the OFB since they seem to believe they own all things political.

I represent that remark.

Can't we all just stick to hamsters?

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Kekking is pretty good. What's the noun form?

Because the great thing about haka is the sound of it. Easy to write with.

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I don't think you can improve on the Haka.

It is so 'beating the chest' funny.

I certainly didn't mean offense on this Molly Dance thing, but can certainly see there were connotations I didn't know about or hadn't taken into account.

Now corrected and chastened. But....

I don't like any more (and for the same reasons) male-bashing terms either. It is the flip side of the same coin.

I thought this would be a fun exercise but, apparently and for a host of reasons, it isn't and/or can't be.

The whole point is these people (of every different race and gender) who get all up with the manufactured outrage need to have a mocking term to describe their uh, uh, uh, HAMSTER DANCE!!!

It has nothing to do with their (mostly) maleness or any other identity they may possess except for childishness (which is not to insult children!), and shouldn't reference gender or ethnic background at all.

Because we are just sooooo above all that. At least usually I am....

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lek n.1, a patch of ground used by groups of birds of certain species, esp. blackcock, during the breeding season, as a setting for the males' display and their meeting with the females; the display itself or the season during which it takes place.

1871 DARWIN Desc. Man xiv. (1883) 405 As many as forty or fifty, or even more birds congregate at the leks. The lek of the capercailzie lasts from the end of March to the..end of May.
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1964 A. L. THOMSON New Dict. Birds 432/1 The lek is usually maintained at the arena for considerable periods of time and many species revive the performance at the same display-ground year after year. Ibid. 432/2 During lek displays the birds tend to stimulate one another.

Ain't that the truth.

I just wish the bird cited in the definition had a different name...

Deer, so I guess it's inter-species.

To me, herb, it's not so much male bashing, as bashing that whole insane desire to impress, which women are just as capable of, don't get me wrong. And in this case the Boiz are trying to impress the Village, so I don't think this has many negative gender connotations.

And lambert, it's Lekking. I guess the noun form would be lek. But since it is action that we accuse the Boiz of performing, I think Lekking suits. You'd have to add a glossary term for though, IMO.

Bill Clinton for First Dude!!!

a Splutterfest, or a Frothmop?

Cause all this was unknown to me.

Where does molly-coddled fit into this?

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Herb you might not have made top 100 pundits but maybe you should have at least made top 100 verbists.

link to pundits
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopi...

"The great divide in this country is not by race or even income, it's by those who think they are better than everyone else and think they should play by a different set of rules," --Bill Clinton

Who would want to be part of a club that has her as a member (#30)?

Actually, have you ever seen a more motley crowd of bores? That must be one of those Chinese hells: The Hell of One Hundred Top Pundits.

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Where does molly-coddled fit into this?

Actually, I don't think that's homophobic -- I think it means you're being "coddled" by a "molly," sense 1. So when you behave as though you're still being cared for by an overprotective nanny, you're "mollycoddled."

Please. I objected to it when it first came up here and got steamrollered - actually more flicked aside, "Baraked" if you will - and just let it drop, expecting that sooner or later there would be someone from Maori culture speaking up against it. Now they have, and that should be an end to it.

Using "haka" the way its being used here is offensive. It is exactly the kind of ignorance-based cultural elitism and denigrative behavior that enlightened people should try to avoid. Read more about the use of the haka and the All-Blacks here.

The New Zealand All-Blacks use the haka as metaphor in a culturally acceptable way. Rugby is a ritualized substitute for war; if you don't understand that, you know nothing of rugby. It isn't football or baseball or pingpong; the players bash into one another without protection, and feet, elbows, fists and heads are used as weapons. Blood is spilled, bones are broken, and nothing less is expected or acceptable. Performing the haka as an exercise in solidarity, an invoking of the war gods and an announcement of no-holds-barred intent to conquor, is perfectly appropriate in that setting.

The Maori people of New Zealand take great pride in their national rugby team, named All-Blacks originaly from their uniforms but now taken as a defiant claiming of the perjorative "blackfellah", a signifier of national unity the same as the phrase "we're all niggers now" is being used here at Corrente. Incorporating Maori culture into a symbol of national pride is a way for the indigenous people of New Zealand to reclaim their stolen status, to reintigrate themselves as co-equals to the white invaders; they are rightly proud of what the team and its performance of the haka symbolizes.

Using "haka" to describe the ravening, mindless attacks of the OFB is an insult to Maori culture. Apologize, and stop doing it - please.

From Wiki:

Berserkers (or Berserks) were Norse warriors who wore coats of wolf or bear skin and who were commonly understood to have fought in an uncontrollable rage or trance of fury; the berserkergang.

Scary non-gay white men.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berserker

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was popular or came into wide usage, etc, at the same time molly was widely known to mean gay.

It's very like how some female names mean more than just a name nowadays too--when i call a friend Mary, or Australian (?) use of Sheila, or whatever...

it should be some tantrum/futile and more powerless and frustrated thing.

the rightwingers who went crazy over the CBS Bush national guard stuff, and all the stuff they've freaked over?

SASQ

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what's it stand for?

they always do the jimmy olsen cub reporter/pitchfork and torches lynch mob thing as if they're uncovering truly dastardly and important things.