From the campaign:
"Senator Clinton will be hosting an event in Washington, DC to thank her supporters and express her support for Senator Obama and party unity. This event will be held on Saturday to accommodate more of Senator Clinton's supporters who want to attend."
Personally, I wish she'd listened to bringiton.
Because my question would be: "And I get?"
And so far, the silence has been deafening.
UPDATE AP assuming they're not lying again:
The only degree of uncertainty was how. Clinton is exploring options to retain her delegates and promote her issues, including a signature call for universal health care.
Indeed.
UPDATE As far as "What is to be done"? these are my thoughts:
... I've started noticing an small upsurge of links to our posts on Republicans over the past year. One from HuffPo yesterday, ditto Yglesias.
So, I don't feel compelled to spend time repackaging 2003-2007's critique all over again for 2008, given that people are already finding past work. If others want to start posting on that, then more power to them, though I would argue such posts are likely to be redundant. However, as far as functionality, the A list is fully capable of handling McCain; the problem for me, since they've abandoned the media critique, is that I can't trust their content not to be truthy any more than I trust the rest of the press into which they are now fully integrated, so I'd have to do their work all over again too. No thanks.
Better to work on new things (and set the record straight on open issues, like caucuses). Things like universal health care, for example, won't come from Obama because his base doesn't care about that. Therefore, any pressure has to come from outside.
We're going to get a right or a center-right government in 2009, and either way, the order of the day in the Village will be consolidating Bush's authoritarian gains, not rolling them back, and implementing whatever "Shock Doctrine" policies are deemed to be needed by Our Betters. We're going to need new things to deal with all that. Truthiness rots policy....
UPDATE Riverdaughter on disinformation and the haka. She's right.
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Cruel World.
*sigh*
Still writing in my boy Gravel, and voting against repubs downticket.
Hillary Herself
Here's an excerpt of the email I got from her:
So far it seems to me that even the lying AP is saying Clinton is exploring options to "keep her delegates." That's the key. Sure, delegates can always change their mind even if they move to Obama. But harder to change than stand where you are, no?
But even if the party somehow reassigns her delegates, that may still help Clinton. Because once more the party will be doing everything it can to make Obama unacceptable to a significant portion of the electorate. Like so many of his supporters, they seemed determine to do this.
Do we know if this is a 'suspended" or "conceded" campaign?
I love this job!
I love this job!
I don't think we can know right now
... though I'm hoping bringiton writes another great post on this.
We don't know because:
1. The press is completely untrustworthy.
2. There is no media critique.
3. I'm betting things are evolving in the Hillary campaign anyhow.
So, turn off the teebee and wait for the transcripts. Speculation is meta....
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
yeah
i was not at all surprised by clinton's decision. her reputation is for hard-nosed political calculation.
but i was very disappointed.
i, too, wonder what am i supposed to do now?
see a politics grief counselor and HEAL?
turn my emotions on a dime?
i not good at doing that.
more importantly, i am developing a deep distrust of what will happen to american government with obama as president.
i don't like mccain one damned bit, but at least he is likely to be more traditional in his governance.
that an obama presidency will be
radical in some direction or another, as was the bush presidency, rather than steady-on in the best traditions of the democratic party,
that is my biggest fear.
that we will have to endure another 4 or 8 years of plowing up american political tradition to sate the thirst for
change for the sake of change
of a few foolish power holders, now democrats.
i've been wrong lot of times with political predictions. maybe i will be this time also.
keeping tabs on how an obama or a mccain presidency is carrying out its duties is a worthy activity.
Heh.
Because my question would be: “And I get?”
And so far, the silence has been deafening
She gets nothing because she lost and is conceding. That's kinda the price a losing candidate pays.
Hey, fuck you too!
Nice work on the unity, there, tas.
Every comment like this makes me more clear in my understanding that once the Obama Movement has taken over the Democratic Party, there's no place in it for me -- or 18 million like me. Well done!
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
According to Lambert, we are to watch and wait. I can do that.
I imagine someone knows how a campaign becomes "suspended".
I have this nagging feeling that someone is waiting for something to happen.
I love this job!
I love this job!
No, no, YOU decide! "are to" is passive!
I'm just a writer and analyst. Use your own critical thinking skills!!!!!
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Unity Through Brickbats
It's a new kind of politics!
Er, since when?
To the contrary, candidates who lose the popular vote but are well-known often get their positions adopted. For example, John Edwards this year.
So, what does Obama want from Hillary?
So, what does Obama want from Hillary?
The copyright to her ideas, and for her to pinch hit for him in the debates with McCain.
Oh yeah, he's probably dropping off some shirts, too.
It's not entirely clear
that she did lose the popular vote, and if she did, it wasn't by much. The loser in such a remarkably close race has a very good hand to play in whatever negotiations take place. If he wants to win the election, Obama has no choice but to take her wishes and those of her supporters into account in exchange for her endorsement.
She didn't lose
It's basically a statistical tie.
RealClearPolitics:
Popular Vote (w/MI
Uncommitted to Obama)**
Obama 17,773,626 48.0%
Clinton 17,822,145 48.1%
Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA*
Obama 18,107,710 48.1%
Clinton 18,046,007 47.9%
Pledged delegates
Obama 1766.5
Clinton 1639.5
Difference of 127
It was the Superdelegates that made up the difference. I expect Donna Brazile will be announcing her resignation any day now:
Insert eye roll here.
suspended--an explanation--
from 2000, about Bradley-- http://www.slate.com/id/1004841/
"... Bill Bradley may say he is retaining his delegates, but in the Democratic Party an official withdrawal severely weakens a candidate's power at the convention. Since he has withdrawn, Bradley will not be able to appoint supporters to the all-important convention committees, which determine the rules and the platform for the convention.
In addition, he will lose a significant number of the delegates already placed in his column by news organizations. In the Democratic primary process, one group of delegates from every state--the at-large delegates--is officially allocated late in the primary season. If a candidate drops out of the race, party rules dictate that his at-large delegates are to be distributed among the remaining candidates. In New York, for example, MSNBC News reported that Bradley earned 87 delegates. At the convention, this number will drop to roughly 70.
As a result, Democratic candidates, unlike their Republican counterparts, have a real incentive to "suspend" their campaigns, as opposed to ending them. In recent history, a number of Democrats have chosen to suspend their presidential candidacies, including Al Gore in 1988. ...
Accordingly, he(McCain) will be eligible for the same funds that are available to Bradley and any other major candidate who withdraws: money to help retire his campaign's debt and close his campaign's offices. ..."
(if you "withdraw" or "quit", money comes into play--not "suspension" for Democrats, i don't think.)
Obama isn't going to waste his time
Trying to get Clinton's 18 million white and latino Democrat voters. They aren't nearly as good as those white Republican and Independent voters. I mean the old independents of course, not the new ones formed the last weeks.
That is because white and latino working class Democrats who don't vote for Obama are racist, whereas white and latino Republicans and Independents are not.
Since he isn't going to waste time trying to get Clinton's Democratic voters back, maybe they should ALL become Independents, then he will show them the love?
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Good night and good riddance!
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Around these parts we call cucumber slices circle bites
he has to at least appear to pander to Hispanics if
not just to white men tho--McCain will get both groups otherwise, and Richardson is a (kinda white) man and also Hispanic--altho he won't help.
"Personally, I wish she’d listened to bringiton"
If I had a nickel for every time I've said that myself....
This is Clinton's path to walk. I don't know what she knows, and I don't know what she's being told by others. For certain though, she now knows that many people she thought were her friends and supporters are not. For certain, she knows that some people whose judgment she trusted are incompetent. For certain, she knows she and Bill both made some big mistakes early. For certain, she is exhausted. That’s a lot to process.
What isn’t certain, for anyone but her, is what exactly she thinks she can do next. The notion that this campaign is “over” for her, as the MSM and BlogBoyz would have it, is absurd. It hasn’t even begun to wind down. As close as the race is now between McCain and Obama, Clinton is the make-or-break power. All of the other Democratic big power people can count, and all of them can clearly see the Electoral College numbers.
If Obama can’t make inroads in the constituencies that went for Clinton, he and the Party are in big trouble. They’re betting he can, but the only way they win that bet is if she is with them. They can’t afford for her say the hell with it and withdraw; the hard math of the Electoral College process dictates that. They, all of them, need her support; she has a lot of power now, and I expect her to use it.
The summer ahead is more than long enough for big change to occur. By suspending her campaign, which is what she will do, she keeps her finger in the game. She plays the role of loyal partisan in public, and waits. Quietly, behind the scenes, Harold Ickes plots. Just keeping in touch, Bill makes phone calls. Being supportive, Hillary works her ass off helping downticket candidates and raising money for the Party, insistently speaking out on what have traditionally been core Democratic issues to the Left of what Obama has been saying, all of it shoring up her cred.
John McCain and his 527s are going to lunge at the target – they should wait but it appears that they can’t help themselves – and start ripping and clawing and stripping the meat off of Obama’s bones. Obama, for the first time ever, will have a real gutter fight on his hands; in a bar brawl, cool and aloof gets your butt kicked. This is only the beginning of June; the nomination process is not over, not yet.
agree with you, lambert, orion, and bringiton.
I'm feeling pretty heartsick right now.
I find it a bitter, and yet also utterly fitting, outcome that our party--the same one that’s failed us in so many ways for the past 7.5 years; that’s apparently all too willing to betray our core values and our platform; that never lifted a finger this season to defend Clinton against the unending disrespect and insults and was only too happy to let her be a convenient scapegoat--is now shoving her out of the race. And without even so much as a feeble attempt to show her as much decency and respect as has our purported adversary, McCain.
No apologies for all the harm they’ve caused; not even so much as a thought to whether maybe, just maybe, it’s they--rather than she--that is the problem. Instead, they kill the candidacy that’s been incredibly popular despite all their efforts to defeat her--and then expect her to right everything that's wrong about this season because of them, to boot.
All I feel right now for the Dem party is contempt and disgust.
yeah, kangaroo
with the adventuresome lads we have in politics these days (tom delay, newt gingrich, barack obama, karl rove, david axelrod)
it's always
full speed ahead to the next disaster,
aka, radical political action or policy.
examples?
1) invade and occupy iraq.
2) convert social security to a private enterprise basis.
right or left, it's just more radical political chic.