1. Those bastards attacked us on 9/11, so not nearly enough
2. When God gave them the purple-thumbed gift of freedom, he didn't say they wouldn't get their hair mussed
3. I dunno, a few thousand. Whatever.
4. Why don't you ask how many of our American boys and girls have been killed? On second thought...

Well we know we had to order all that ammo.. So, let's just say that if lead or titanium get's expensive, then Baghdad is the new mining gold rush town.

"We don't really do body counts."

I just thought, since we're paying for this (or our grandkids are paying for it), we could ask this question over and over again. Our leaders are party to death and destruction of biblical proportions, and still they are unwilling to tell us what exactly our money has bought. Even an amoral neocon high on bug powder could be persuaded that the client (us) has a right to know what the hiree (them) has achieved. Yes, death of Iraqis is an achievement, is it not? But how many deaths exactly? Oh, please give us the details--you naughty boys! What a harvest! What a Christian triumph! What a century!

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Note: I updated this comment--I mistakenly wrote "billion" where I should have written trillion. A thousand pardons dancing on the head of a pin...

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Whose names we know because they are bad people.

Yunno, like Tom Freidman isn't a bad person, even though he's famous.

The decision not to do body counts is a deliberate one on the part of the administration; might remind people of Vietnam.

I actually think the Lancet study was close, and it's been a horrifying number, but the rightwing attack on the study, which continues, worked to undermine its findings. But then, what the hell, what you don't know can't hurt you, right?

I don't think you could get Ahmed Chalabi out of his sedan chair for less than a couple of $Bs.

It has such data (or estimates) updated in real time.

http://icasualties.org/oif/default.aspx

Also here: http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

P.S. Thanks for the link on "the profile."

limit, no price is too great. no moral boundary is too high, no future too precious to mortgage, no humanitarian ideal too sacrosanct to violate.

i thought you understood that, mjs. "brown" isn't really the definitive word, except how it relates to our times. but there is a reason why we have vampire mythology, and others. i can't think of any other way to explain the essential nature of those who live to profit from the death of others.

Now, how many have died?

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