Wed, 09/09/2009 - 10:41pm — lambert
Just got the post O-gasmic bulk email from FDL. It ends:
P.S. If you don't think it's imperative to pass a public option, consider this: without a public option, individuals without health insurance will be fined $3800 for not paying up to the insurance companies. If that won't be an issue in 2010, nothing will.
Huh?
The $3800 is a feature of the Baucus bill. But all the bills have mandates, and therefore all the bills -- with the exception of the single payer bills (HR676 and S703) -- criminalize the uninsured; that's what's essential, not the precise amount of the fine.
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"Reform"
I'm too sick of Pibbers and prog/Dem strategists to actually read the entire Democracy Corps email, but they claim that Obama's speech moved people to support "reform".
Reform could be good or bad, but there is usually little discussion on the good or the bad. Makes me wanna scream.
I should note, I have no interest in hearing or reading the bestest speech in the history of the universe. Words are cheap as the shit sandwiches we keep on getting. What I learned from Bush was that anytime the Village
wants to sell us shit sandwiches, they have an awesome speech, occassionally there are bulging codpieces.
Nothing has changed.
Only tyrants rig elections.
Tax on people living on the edge
I wonder if ANYONE in Washington understands that many uninsured people are living on the edge, barely making it.
MEDICARE/SINGLE-PAYER TYPE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL NOW!
The Congress is back in session and doing the dirty work for the Medical Industrial Complex.
mcconnell $3.3M, hatch $2.9M, baucus $2.8M, grassley $2.7M,
lieberman $2.6M, burr $2.4M, ensign $2.4M, cornyn $2.2M, kyl $2.1M,
conrad $2.1M, cantor $1.8M boehner $1.7M, coburn $1.2M were
paid by the Medical Industrial Complex to kill Health Care Reform.
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Call Congress and demand, Single-Payer Health Care for All!
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Don't let the Medical Industrial Complex steal your Health Care from you and your family by donating huge sums of money to Crooked Politicians in order to maintain the Status Quo. Keep up the good fight.
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"Veni Vidi Vici"
Here's what Dennis the K Said:
This corresponds pretty closely to how I felt at the end of the part of the speech I heard. Admittedly, when the name of Ted Kennedy was invoked to cover this “plan,” I turned off the TV until I read via a liveblog that the GOP response was starting.
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18
Kucinich...
I could have used more red meat
and less sweet reasonableness.
Maybe there's no audience for that sort of thing Versailles
, and so the left never gets to practice.
First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Kill Them With Kindness
I think it's hard to deliver red meat when the guy you're opposing is the de facto leader of your own party. Much better and more effective to be sweet. It makes it harder for people who would otherwise agree with you - but have a knee-jerk need to defend Obama - to hear what you're saying.
"Do what you feel in your heart to be right -- for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. " - Eleanor Roosevelt
Fair enough...
Perhaps I shouldn't have used the words "red meat" -- what I really meant was not honed or concise. He took an awful long time getting around to the bailout point, though it was well made when he got there.
First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi
People are concerned about a $1500 fine for not feeding the
Big Insurance Parasites (BIPs), so hearing about a $3800 fine? Scares the hell out of me!
BTW, anyone know when the various bills say people have to open their veins to the BIPs? Is it prior to there being any possible "public option"? When do folks get pushed into the "high risk" pool? (Who chose those felicitous words?)?
(Damn, but I miss internet info--it's really scary being out here without ready access to solid information, analysis. The MCM (Mainstream Corporate Media) is almost impossible to believe. All day prior to BO's Big Speech of the Month, the MCMers were saying the public option was out, that WH people were telling them it was a goner. Afterwords, they said roughly the same thing, that BO had given the Blue Dogs and senators a green light to drop the public option, weak or robust.
There apparently was inside the Beltway talk that whatever he's saying about the benefits of a public option is really just the ol' rope-a-dope. Bamboozle is Obama stuff... Let the little people and those "liberal bleeding hearts" think he's fighting with them, when he's really fighting against them.
But, talking to a tech from HP? He's still strong on Obama, talked about all the benefits of the vaunted "public option"! Talking to the woman who made my appt. for my ultrasound imaging I got the opposite reaction. She knows the horrors of BIPs only too well, and she felt BO was too concerned about their well-being and not about that of the health care provides and their patients.
I've decided the icon Doonesbury should use for Obama is an inkblot--he's our Rorschach prsident. What people see in him is more about them than about what he really things or stands for. )