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I mean, after live blogging AL Jazeera on the air, tracking their live blogs and tweets in real time, and doing the same for the BBC, Reuters, CNN, and the Times, for what? 18 days? during my waking hours, all when the story is a successful and non-violent revolution in the heart of 7000-year-old civilization in the Middle East... Well, coming back to the Sunday Bobbleheads of this world seems just a little.... Well, stale. Provincial. Insular. Like watching state TV and then phoning it in.

Of course, it's not like American's anything at all like Egypt.

NOTE OK, essentially non-violent. But, except for attacking the Ministry of the Interior and the Ministry of Information -- which no self-respecting revolutionary could avoid doing -- the Egyptian revolutionaries never initiated violence, and IIRC all the deaths in the revolution were on their side, and not the police or the army.

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okanogen's picture

Successful?

I completely agree that the protests were successful at maintaining the discipline of being non-violent. That can't be argued with and is a fantastic achievement. However, the same military regime that was in control before, is in control now. The only thing different is the figurehead is gone, the figleaf parliament is gone, and the former government's laws and constitution are now gone. The revolution certainly was successful at those things however what is in place now is direct military rule.

So whether the revolution itself was successful is far, far, far from clear.

Sorry, I don't fall in love with politicians. I'm not that desperate.....

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It's not over yet

Exactly. Tearing a government down is comparatively easy when it comes to having to build a new one.

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Now, of course,

comes the terrifying waiting.

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The first part

sounds like me during the big eruption after the Irani elections. Shoulda blogged that here instead of tweeting and facebooking it. Next time.

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Well, that's the problem with tweeting and ...

... facebooking (aside from the strong intelligence ties) -- tweets after two months or so, and you can't link into Facebook or find anything on it easily.

So, our corporate masters have invented tools where nothing can be remembered and little can be found. And some people think these are great tools for activism....

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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I have certainly discovered..

that each time I thought I was Mr. CleverBoots, someone else was smarter. That being said:

All men can see the tactics whereby I conquer,
but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory
is evolved.

Facebook's importance to Egypt was because a lot of people read it. It's a centralized point where you can post one piece of information under a general topic which someone has 'liked' and be guaranteed that if they check their Facebook (and they will), it will be seen. What happens after that is up to you (and your readers). It's a starting point and a communication tool, nothing more except one key thing: It has several hundred million users and they provide it with demographic data( for both good and bad reasons). Facebook is attempting to turn a profit with that data and is not shy about sharing it while, at the same time, also having to deal with a hornet's nest of privacy complaints. The complainants will lose. That means that if you're on Facebook under your real name, a lot can be found out about you if you click the 'like' button or play a game.

Lets and I discussed the concept of an 'adaptive database' as an aggregation of objects of interest to people of a political bent. I have an idea in mind for a Facebook game. I've never developed for FB so that might take a little doing to become familiar with the FB API.

But what's the API for the users who will access the objects for whatever purpose they may have in mind(hopefully good)? I've read some of Lets's and Nancy B.'s writing on the subject and it is certainly well thought out but to tie a body of information to a website may be counter-productive if the API is exportable to a broader group of users. What really is the point of IVCS becoming the Facebook of politics?

I have a development platform set up. I make no guarantees but I have some time and I'm willing to give it a try.

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Well it was helpful

in that it got the word out. I know for a fact that a good chunk of the 200 people that started following me following the elections think I'm Iranian (comes with the basic ability to read Farsi and retweeting Farsi tweets on trending topics to help organise protests, etc added to that. I got a lot of support tweets and messages from people telling me to keep on going and that they were with me). So if I could spread the message and rally support then awesome. Same with facebook - I have a lot of people who added me during that time because I was giving updates CONSTANTLY and people were sharing them left and right. I had people telling me that they were glued to their facebooks waiting for my updates, so it wasn't all bad. Plus better me freaking about my friend disappearing off the street (somewhat) privately then all over the internet, because it was a large freakout. I think I must have been updating everything about every 10-20 minutes I was so scared. He eventually turned up in prison, but that was like 2 days later. 2 sleepless days later.

But you're right. Blogging here and importing it to facebook would be better, but you can't tell me twitter is bad. It helped organise so many protests for the Iranis.

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