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I think the single-payer movement should try to make a push in certain states

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States that have shown signs of certain strains of leftism, states that seem to welcome an expanded welfare state.

Looking over how everything went down last night, I find a surprising degree of comfort in ballot initiatives that passed and didn't pass. Minnesota didn't ban gay marriage. Washington and Maryland and Maine all legalized it. Massachusetts permitted medical marijuana. Washington and Colorado legalized marijuana outright, putting them to the left of the Netherlands on drug policy. When was the last time a part of the US was to the left of anywhere else, on anything?

The point to take from all this, from my perspective, is that at least in parts of the country the common people are enough to the left that they would probably welcome real universal health care. Places like Massachusetts- wouldn't it be great to pass single-payer in the state where the Romneycare/Obamacare mess got started? Places like Vermont- where Peter Shumlin of sort-of-single-payer fame won reelection. Places like Washington, Oregon, Maine, Maryland.

Obamacare throws a spanner in the works, true, but I feel like this is something worth pushing for anyway. It's like the marijuana legalizations: the federal government may say you can't do it, but common decency says you should, and at our state levels we should fight for common decency above all else.

Just my perspective.

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Submitted by Alexa on

care is much more complicated. There indeed is a moral dimension to the health care issue, but IMO Democrats forfeited the high ground on that issue, when they designed a health care package that leaves over 30 million folks uninsured from the get-go.

And I'd venture to say that many of the American People consider it to be an economic issue, since it take's such a 'huge chunk of change' to afford coverage.

To say that the ACA throws a wrench in things, is a bit of an understatement, don't you think? No one would like to see that atrocious piece of legislation overturned more than I, but respectfully, I think that dealing with this issue (at this time) would be a major distraction.

I'm listening to House Speaker John Boehner (as I type) agreeing to try to strike a Grand Bargain, saying "we're ready to be led, and find common ground."

So, no offense, jumpjet, the Fiscal Cliff and the evisceration of the Social Safety Net (what little is left) is what we need to be concerned about now.

[When that fight's finished, I'll be there right behind you, pushing for "Medicare For All." :) ]

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Submitted by jumpjet on

I think, and drug policy is as much an economic issue as a social issue. Or wasn't part of the motivation for passing marijuana legalization about making and saving money for the states?

More to the point, people have asked me how I would fight the Grand Bargain. I think this is one way to fight it- by pressing forward. I'm tired of fighting rearguard actions, of battling away challenges to the social safety net, challenges that always leave that net a little more frayed and torn. I would very much like to strike a blow for something new, an expansion of social welfare, rather than a defense of something that already exists.

Let's strike while the iron is hot. Let's rock some motherfuckers back on their heels. If not now, when?

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Submitted by Alexa on

not only did the ACA make it difficult to transition to a national "Medicare-For-All" system, the co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) had this to say after the SCOTUS ruled on the ACA:

"WASHINGTON -- Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) said Thursday that the Supreme Court's decision to uphold the constitutionality of President Barack Obama's health care law means progressive lawmakers won't be pushing for a single-payer option anymore, though the concept will live on in their minds.

The idea of a single-payer option, such as a Medicare-for-all approach to health care, will continue to be "a fundamental political point that we all support," said Grijalva, co-chairman of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. "But the reality of what just happened today probably puts the emphasis on making the law work as opposed to trying to get a new plan."

Here's the link to the piece at HuffPo.

Actually, that's one reason that I was trying to steer you in a different direction.

Without a doubt, however, we're all probably our most productive when we're working on something that's personally meaningful.

So best of luck to you!