I keep returning to Jon Schwartz’s TinyRevolution:
If The Nazis Could Make It Work, Why Not Us?
This is an unusual rhetorical gambit from Alan Dershowitz:
Marginal Democratic candidates certainly benefit from moving to the left on national security issues, but serious candidates—candidates who want to have any realistic chance of prevailing in the general election—must not allow themselves to be pushed, shoved or even nudged away from a strong commitment to national security.
Consider, for example, the contentious and emotionally laden issue of the use of torture in securing preventive intelligence information about imminent acts of terrorism…
There are some who claim that torture is a nonissue because it never works—it only produces false information. This is simply not true, as evidenced by the many decent members of the French Resistance who, under Nazi torture, disclosed the locations of their closest friends and relatives.
You know, I was on the fence there about torture, until Dershowitz pointed out it really worked well for the Nazis! Color me convinced!
Is it fair to ask if Dershowitz has become the Jewish Limbaugh?
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It worked for the Nazis, alright.
In fact, Nazi Germany is now the sole Superpower in the world today.
No Hell below us
Above us, only sky
Kb:I know yu better than have to admonish you not to confuse
tactics with strategy.
while in the long run it behooved the Nazis not at all to extract information by torture, it ’worked’ for their short-term purposes, viz, to eliminate known threats.
It is precisely this difference that the Bush cabal seems to be either in total ignorance, or utter, purblind, monstrously hubristic denial.
Me? A Quick Study, But A Slow Learner
Bush torture is not about intel but confession
Far be it from me to suggest, however, that Bush would torture his own mother for a single-digit bump in the polls. Because that would be wrong. He’d have a civilian contractor do it. Or a “bad apple.”
We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan