If non-violence is good enough for #OccupyChicago, why isn't it good enough for AdBusters?
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Submitted by lambert on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 7:54pm
I think the message AdBusters is sending here is pretty clear. Here's the response from a member of OccupyChicago.
What's fascinating to me is that there's no strategy suggested or even implied in the AdBusters post. Check the last sentence of the AdBusters piece:
What is different is that we’re being forced to acknowledge that autonomy is a core principle of the movement, for better or worse.
Note the lack of agency! Why are we doing any of this? Fee fees? Ego?
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I am too angry for analysis
its like Adbusters can sit there from the comfort of Canada and issue some ukase. Obviously they are stirring up trouble. I wish I could go to Chicago and assist them. There are people who can train demonstrators how to recognize trouble makers within your ranks and defuse trouble before it gets started.
Wow, I am just shaking with anger. Like Occupy doesn't have enough trouble without armchair activists encouraging violence.
There's a certain style to the discourse....
.... that I have yet to get my head around. Lack of agency is part of it, because violence advocates rarely call directly for violence.
the convoluted grammar
the difficult to follow sentences, a sure sign that the writer is up to no good.
Can you give me an example?
I mean, I iike to think I'm up to good, at least on some days, and my sentences are long and complex. So, what do you mean, "convoluted"?
its like Adbusters can sit
its like Adbusters can sit there from the comfort of Canada and issue some ukase.
welllll................
from the wikipedia bio of
from the wikipedia bio of kalle lasn:
Well, they certainly seem to be jamming non-violence
And I wonder if the style shows that. I bet it does (because still shows everything....).
I'm looking for tells in the discourse; I wish to be able to dispose of great swaths of trollery in a single move...
I wish to be able to dispose
I wish to be able to dispose of great swaths of trollery in a single move...
i'm 100% with you on that. but given that the original #ows appears to have been the result of an adbusters ukase, that's going to be difficult to do [cf the nycga v spokescouncil dustup, for instance].