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McEwan on Kaine
You Have GOT to Be Kidding Me.
"We" don't need Clinton...or party unity for Dems to win...
Kaine's "so much better" than Clinton: he's so much better known as a national politician, not, and he doesn't care about that yucky women own their own body nonsense that has prevented Democrats from being President for so many years. Prevented a Democrat from being a Republican President, maybe...are both the Obama rulz and the Clinton rulz displayed below? Now I will be quiet and send money to Obama....
From the comments at Tom's The Kaine Mutiny (cited above in the post):
"I don't see what Hillary Clinton brings to the ticket as a veep. She's a lightning rod for controversy, whether or not you think it's her fault, and she'll unite Republicans (and others) like no other. Obama will carry New York well enough without her, and if he doesn't...well, then Superman as vice-president wouldn't help. Despite Hillary's efforts to appear as some kind of white, working-class hero, I suspect that she won her victories in Kentucky and West Virginia not because she was overly popular but because she was the only white Democrat on the ballot. If John Edwards had still been in the running, instead of Hillary Clinton, I'll bet he would have done similarly well.
Posted by: Neil M | July 30, 2008 at 01:59 PM
i think its time for the sore losers to get over it. Hillary is the worst possible choice for a number of reasons. A moderate Democrat from Virginia accomplishes many many strategic objectives. Tim Khaine is a very reasonable choice and rightfully belongs on the short list. This persistent "Hillary or death" attitude is disturbing and borderline psychotic. Get over it.
Posted by: dbg | July 30, 2008 at 02:14 PM"
Tom Watson
Wow, Tom Watson completely misses the problem with Tim Kaine. It has absolutely nothing to do with his lack of starpower. But, then again, that seems all the supporters of the presumptive nominee ever seem to care about, so I guess it's not a surprise that he (Watson) swung and missed.
I propose that Senator Obama simply run as the Democratic nominee, and then co-op John McCain position as the presumptive Republican nominee, and run as the nominee of both parties. Better yet, have them both make an agreement that says they'll administer the government of the United States as co-presidents in the ultimate odd couples match-up. It make for some great television.
Seriously, though, Senator Clinton doesn't need to go anywhere near the vice presidency. You don't row back to the Titanic. Senator Obama needs someone that he can completely dominate and use as a prop, someone with the patience of a saint to put up with that ego of his.
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...