A long piece, in Rolling Stone. I won't try to, ahem, summarize him here, the work is very dense and any attempt to condense it I fear would leave out something important. Go and read, please.
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A long piece, in Rolling Stone. I won't try to, ahem, summarize him here, the work is very dense and any attempt to condense it I fear would leave out something important. Go and read, please.
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Per capita health care spending (2007):
United States: $7290
Switzerland: $4417
France: $3601
United Kingdom: $2992
Average of OECD developed nations: $2964
Italy: $2686
Japan: $2581
-- Bob Somerby
The text of HR676 (Medicare For All) as PDF (30 pages). The FAQ. Compare HR3200 with HR676.
Medicare for All would save $350 billion a year (study in New England Journal of Medicine).
In 2003, a young Illinois state senator named Barack Obama told an AFL-CIO meeting, "I am a proponent of a single-payer universal healthcare program*." -- Bill Moyers.
* Medicare For All.
A right-winger. Usage: Tom DéLay—winger extraordinaire.
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dear beloved professor dr krugman:
[sticks fingers in ears] lalalalala! we're not listening! please stop parroting the lies of the lying liars.
sincerely,
your otherwise-adoring fans,
hipparchia et al
what hipparchia said
more single payer defeatism
who wrote it
Klienman has some doubts as to who really wrote that.
that crazy Krugman!
Talking political realities, telling the truth about how things stand; what could he have been thinking?!?
My take was different, as to his meaning, but then in every particular Krugman's sense of how things stand is the same as mine. It seems to me that he was making it perfectly clear to one and all that this is the way things are as a warning, as a caution, and that unless the people who want these things sooner rather than later can find a way to drive the decision-making process then this is the way it will be.
Single payer would be a lot more feasible...
... if Krugman just hadn't kicked its advocates in the teeth.
Where is this "politically achievable" to be found? Who decides it? Does it descend from the mountain bearing stone tablets?
Purely a Village
construct. And a classic self-fulfilling prophecy. Where Krugman had a chance to reframe the debate, he muffed it. Where's the "conscience" in that?
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
You could also say it this way
"Obama and the Democrats will move in seriously Progressive directions when and only when Progressives force the issues properly framed to the top of public discussion and drive them to it. Perhaps you can cite an instance in our history when it has happened any other way?"
Agreed.
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I'm not such a bad guy once you get to know me.
Of all days to ask this question
lambert: "Where is this "politically achievable" to be found?"
It is found on a bridge in Selma, Alabama. It is found on a bus seat, at a lunch counter, in a public restroom and at a public drinking fountain. It is found in a rented hall in Jackson, Mississippi and on campuses where students face drawn guns and teargas and in streets filled with working people and the poor who are fed up and not willing to take it any more, and on the front porches of a thousand thousand doors where everyday people look other everyday people in the eyes and ask them to do the right thing.
Before Martin Luther King became the institution MLK he was a softspoken pastor at a church few have heard of, Dexter Avenue Baptist in Montgomery, and the quiet but well-regarded member of the Executive Committee of the NAACP. He was a volunteer activist, and never sought nor held an elected public office in his life. Most of the leadership and the entire cadre in the civil rights struggle came from simple roots, and few of them ever pursued an electoral route to power. A new political reality was achieved then, forced into being, by dint of numbers, by a groundswell of support from people literally in the streets, powerful enough to compel elected officials to not just accept it but embrace it.
In my view, it is extremely unlikely that those who have come to power through establishment-sanctioned pathways, whose power rests on the continuing goodwill of the establishment, are going to do things that actually challenge the hegemony of that same establishment. It may happen, but it is rare. Far more common, in our own history exclusively so, is for the people themselves to organize and rebel, in myriad ways, so forcefully that the establishment and its leadership recognize that continuing on their preferred path will result their own destruction.
Then, and only then, will the change we seek occur and that is the great lesson to be reflected upon today.
To repeat: Krugman is no fool, nor is he an establishment tool, and he certainly hasn't kicked anyone in the teeth. He has sounded a warning and made a call to arms, couched in the language of an academic speaking under cover of a pretense at comity; whosoever hath ears, let them hear.
[In anticipation of recent incorrect assertions being repeated, I absolutely make no disparagement of those who write as their preferred form of activism, or of blogs such as this one where liberal voices of many stripes can speak with freedom. Such activism is highly valuable, truly essential, and much to be admired and praised. I am, in fact, writing in advocacy at this blog; in so doing, can I also be disparaging of that which I do myself? Absurd.]
krugman:
let's be frank: krugman has drunk the herndon alliance koolaid.
i don't know if pk has been innocently led astray by his ostensible allies -- celinda lake is considered a top democratic party strategist, and by all accounts she does appear to be a smart cookie -- or if he knows that the public really does want single payer and he is instead 'going along to get along' here, by putting the blame on the public instead of where it truly belongs: on the pundits and politicians whose careers and incomes depend on keeping the insurance industry in business, sick and dying people be damned.
agree with you that those of us who want single payer NOW NOW NOW need to find a way to squash this stupid americans are afraid of change lie. it would be a big help if we had a smart, likable nobel laureate on our side, helping us get the message out.
Hip, please leave your thoughts in comments at Krugman's blog,
if you can.
He sometimes responds to to readers' comments/questions/criticisms.
There's lots of pressure to just support Obama, so let him know there are numbers who support doing what's the best thing, not just the political thing.
All the UHC bloggers here should make their thoughts known--with links to greatest hits posts...or something like that.
I'm heading over now to see where a comment might work.
well done
and thank you.
i do
frequently. and always politely.
only a few times has anything i've said there made it out of moderation, and none of what i've said about single payer or hr 676 has ever been published there. this hasn't kept me from continuing to try, but it's my understanding that krugman isn't doing the moderating, that the nyt hires lackeys to do that part, so probably he never even sees the message.
i've also sent him emails in the past, asking him to support single payer, and describing why i think it's a good idea [mostly i parrot what i find at pnhp] but haven't done so recently. i've considered hunting down a phone number or two and calling him, but haven't actually tried that one yet.
but sure, no problemo, i'll go leave another comment or two and dig up an email address or two and try again. doesn't cost me anything.
[oops, meant to reply directly to jawbone]
I didn't realize moderation worked that way at Krugman's-and
thank you so much for what you write, for what you do. Muchas, muchas, muchas gracias.
Anyone have a home address for the good professor? Not to be posted, but shared to our great UHC folks?
krugman's contact information
at princeton