Via The Green Parrot's blog I found this link where you can learn your "Walk Score", a livability index based on an address' walking distance to those services you regularly need.
This is a fantastic tool. What if people only valued houses by the upper tier of "walk scores" (Of course some already do....)? What would that do for all of those foreclosed property values, which are typically concentrated in urban areas with high walkability numbers?
If everybody lived with a score of at least 80, and actually like, WALKED, what would that do for global warming? For decreasing our need for wars in the middle east? For our health? For our sanity?
FYI, my residence's score was 91.
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Mine is 42
And even based off that the information is faulty.
Rite Aid as my closest grocery store? Who can shop at Rite Aid for produce? WTF
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There is also a locally owned coffee shop closer than Thorton's Dunkin' Donuts coffee.
It counts a Circle K as a grocery store.
It's a kind of useful tool, but if someone chooses a home because it says there is a Barnes and Noble less than three miles from my house, they are going to be sorely disappointed to discover it is only a college text book store, not a commerical B&N.
The distances are wrong too.
The idea is a great one, and I wished I lived in a more walk friendly place, but I'm a person who likes my space, and enclosed urban living is just not for me.
I know all good liberals hate all things strip mall, but for where I live, it works well, because you can park your car in one lot, and shop at many different places, instead of park, shop, drive; park, shop, drive; ...
He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave.
- Sir William Drummond
That's too bad
It accurately placed every bar, restaurant, grocery store, convenience store, liquor store, pharmacy, coffee shop (including small, non-corporate ones), etc. within a reasonable walking radius.
I had a chance to move to more rural digs, but if you run out of toilet paper (or coffee, or eggs, or orange juice) on a Sunday morning, how nice is it to just put on slippers and trudge 100 yards to the convenience store, rather than getting in the car, driving 10 minutes, parking, lather, rinse, repeat?
Not to be a snob about it, because if I could walk out my backyard and right into hundreds of acres of woods (as I did while growing up), I can see the attraction.
Sorry, I don't fall in love with politicians. I'm not that desperate.
I never had a walk score but
I never had a walk score but I have always chosen my living places based on walkable accessibility to my needs. My grandmother maintained her independence for her whole life because she lived a block from a grocery store and from a bus stop that could take her to her doctor's office or to other shopping areas. She had never learned to drive and never needed to. I always admired that.
I live two short city blocks from Whole Foods and a half mile from a major grocery store - for the times I can't afford Whole Foods. I have a 24 hour Rite Aid less than a half mile away. The post office is a 1.5 miles away but it is a pleasant walk on a cool afternoon. I can also grab a DASH, which is a small local bus that only costs 25 cents to ride, down into the Studio City shopping area where they have book stores, clothing stores, shoe stores and a Trader Joes. My bank is a half mile away as well. These past few months I've been participating in a program at Cedars Sinai, and my husband drives me to the bus stop in Studio City and I take the MTA bus over Laurel Canyon and it drops me off right in front of the hospital. It's much easier and cheaper than driving. Most months, we put fewer than 200 miles on our car - sometimes far fewer.
For a short few years, I had a job I could walk to. Hallelujah, what a treat that was! To walk out the door at the end of the day and stroll the Boulevard home again with the little cafes starting to open up and the actors arriving at the local theatre. I could stop and by some beads to make a new pair of earrings or browse through the vintage clothing racks. We have a wonderful used bookstore along the way as well, and i got a lot of my birthday presents there. None of it would have been nearly as much fun if I had had to stop and find a parking place.
"Someone needs to point out that elephants produce infinitely more shit than donkeys." Brad Mays
It Works for Hong Kong--Sort of
I plugged in my HK address, and got an 89, which is ridiculous. It should be 100. I live in one of the densest commercial areas in the world. Literally. I flop out of the door, walk five steps, and there are a gazillion restaurants, gym, shops selling everything from electrical equipment to egg tarts.
When I checked it out more closely, though, I realized that the engine was not picking up a lot of the small "Mom and Pop" stores--hardware, laundry, fruit sellers, hair salons, etc.
Then I plugged in my address in Brooklyn, New York, and it gave me a 97. Now my neighborhood there (Park Slope) is certainly walker friendly, but I have to drag my groceries a lot further there than I do in HK.
Conclusion: Works pretty good, not 100% accurate.
Not So Hot
The neighborhood listed at 99 as the most walkable in Portland OR is the newish nose bleed high rent "Pearl" district. The Pearl specializes in art galleries, brewpubs, and posh restaurants. Last I checked those folks are still trying to get a grocery store put in...
Meanwhile, in my PDX hood rated at 74 I can walk to 2 full service grocery stores, including one carrying all locally sourced, mostly organic foods, plus 2 banks, a hardware, movie theater, 2 vets, 5 coffee shops, state liquor store, and at least 30 restaurants. I've lived in this neighborhood for well over 30 years because of its marvelous ambience and convenience, which includes service by 3 bus lines, and in another 5-7 years, light rail.
Their algorithm needs some work, IMO.
Algorithm? Or lack of data?
I didn't realize that this would be so contentious.
Of course it is imperfect, that is why they ask for input. Personally, I think it is a great tool, exactly the kind of tool that the internet should have. It will get better with time. It will also get better as people start to realize the value in being able to walk rather than drive. Sweet Chthulu, I didn't think that should be very controversial on a site like Corrente.
I don't live in a "high-rent" area, far from it, and my city isn't even in their list of cities. But this tool pretty accurately portrayed how easy it is to walk and live here. It pretty realistically portrayed other addresses in other ciites that I either lived at or knew intimately. Just because your address gets a "low" score or another gets a "high" score is not some kind of definitive. It's a guideline.
Is it not good that their is a tool like this, even if imperfect in it's beginnings?
Sorry, I don't fall in love with politicians. I'm not that desperate.
it's a terrific idea
but yeah, their algorithm needs work.
some of the things that got counted in my area as schools, bookstores, libraries, grocery stores, etc aren't what a normal person would call schools, bookstores, grocery stores, libraries... fortunately the links let me look up any of the items i was interested in, so it's fairly easy to see if you'fre moving to a neighborhood where the reading room of a local fundie religious center counts as a 'library'.
hmmm, that's not bad actually, now that i think about it... useful information to know, which entities in any given neighborhood count as a schools or libraries.
oh yeah, almost forget, my residence was a 29 or something like that. if we'd only been counting real schools and libraries, i suppose it would have been about a 5.
Well, it got us right . . .
Zero.
We live 7 miles from the closest bus stop and 10 from the closest convenience store/gas station and still further (by quite a few miles) from the closest grocery store, so yeah . . .
Actually when you live in the woods, you wait to go to the store
and then stock up, rather than taking the time to make an extra trip for toilet paper. And too, when you live in the woods, you often have no commute whatsoever--living on the farm, I am at work & don't drive for days at a time, would be only weekly if I weren't caring for an elderly parent in town.
And that site has extinct businesses included for my town, and the mileage wrong. Interesting concept though.
Elliot Lake