Now we're talking oppo; it turns out that the Anchorage Daily News is a McClatchy paper. Have at it, kidz.
Although probably not the Dominionist stuff, which is the real killer, I would think.
UPDATE McClatchy's the best of 'em. They got Iraq right where Pravda on the Potomac and Izvestia on the Hudson got it wrong. Not perfect, but the best.
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Skimming the titles, I don't see anything that isn't already out there, and little not already on her Wikipedia page.
A lot of what's out there
came from the Anchorage Daily News.
Anchorage Daily News
I'd wish I'd did a little research to see who owned them. This kind of explains everything, huh?
Lambert you are not alone
They did run this cartoon:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/215/gallery/4...
So what's the theory here about McClatchy?
What happened
to the:
http://www.correntewire.com/palin_says_n...
post?
I’m not sure but I
I'm not sure but I don't think this one is in there.
It also mentions the woman whose email to friends about Palin has been making the rounds, Anne Kilkenny.
The Daily Journal of Kankakee talked to Kilkenny:
CNN has more here:
UPDATE:
NPR did an interview with Kilkenny here
Fwiw Palin didn't actually try to have any books
removed from the library, even after the librarian in question resigned. The City of Wasilla keeps records.
Also, Kilkenny's letter, except for where she's talking about events that can be independently verified through public documents, sounds like she really, really doesn't like Sarah Palin, and not quite so much like the brave crusader who spoke out just because she's a person who "looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to say anything because they were somehow vulnerable."
[Palin? Or the plot from Mean Girls?]
[predatory ruthlessness as a point guard?]
Read the the whole letter and judge for yourself.
As someone who grew up in a small town, I can tell you politics become quite personal and vicious. I'm a little wary of someone who paints themselves as just a concerned citizen and the other person as evil incarnate. Not that evil incarnate doesn't exist, or that Palin couldn't be it, but considering the feelings of the source here, I'm a bit skeptical.
"Small town" does amplify perfectly in the Village though
As it would be expected to do. I agree with Valhalla here:
Am there, doing that.
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don't believe it
Now I'm sure the truth lies somewhere in the middle, but I just don't believe that this mayor of Wasilla document about book banning is the whole truth.
Explain to me why three people threatened or did resign related to the library. Explain to me why there was almost a recall effort because of this?
I'll dig more, but I just don't believe that never had anything to do with the library when she have stuff to do with other village offices.
"Explain to you....
Because small towns get that way, OK? It's like the old joke about [insert out group of choice] Alzheimers: "I've forgotten everything but my grudges..."
Dig away, but I'd be very surprised if there was any part of any story that didn't have another side, with somebody to support it.
It's the economy, stupid. But what would I know? I'm a racist.
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seems to be half/half
The basic story is that police chief wiggam and the un-sexy librarian supported the old mayor's campaign, and Palin was cleaning house and fired them.
ADN: Wasilla keeps librarian, but police chief is out (2/1/1997)
ADN: Foes back off their push to recall mayor (2/11/1997)
But some quotes about book banning still remain.
http://www.libraryjournal.com/blog/10100...
And the modern coverage from ADN (9/4/2008) definately makes the case for book banning
They also state in that article that Kilkenny ( the infamous email author) was at city council meeting where book removal was discussed.
I'm overwhelmingly swayed that this story goes beyond bitter local who has vendetta. There is a lot of historical sourcing on the request to remove books.
Was an official request made?
And did anything come of it?
Again, in a small town, that's what matters, when push comes to shove.
IIRC, the books are on the shelves.
Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac go tits up, and this is what we're talking about. God, this sucks.
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No request was made, no books
were removed. One of those ADN articles even quotes the librarian as saying she had no idea which books Palin might be concerned about.
More spooge from the OFB
Yawn. There's really too much to clean up.
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More spooge
Want another one?
According to an article in the NYTimes this AM about Palin's religious beliefs (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/06/us/pol...), the talking point that she said the Iraq war is a "task that's from God" turns out to be a lie created by very cleverly removing the first part of her sentence, which was, quoting the Times:
The Times piece includes a link to a Youtube video of this appearance.
It's really quite stunning.
Of course, I have no evidence the Obama campaign is responsible for the flood of half-truths and outright lies about Palin that seemed to hit the blogs and the newspapers at the same time about 24 hours after she was announced, but it's certainly curious.
If it was the Obama campaign that generated this stuff, it certainly means they were very ready for the Palin possibility (and for God's sake, lots of us were aware of it for weeks, so I find it hard to believe they weren't), despite their storyline that it took them by surprise. Certainly seems like somebody was ready. Aren't all these things pretty classic oppo research items?
How about another one?
Turns out the accusation that Palin is opposed to sex education in the schools is also not true. Surprise!
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-...
Here's the key section
Said it before and I'll say it again. If you're interested in actual truth, believe *nothing* being said about her, even in the papers, without well-detailed direct quotes or links to public records.
I can't take it anymore
The distortions are too much. Seriously.
WATCH THE YOUTUBE VIDEO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG1vPYbRB7k (at 3:33)
Pray for our military -- he's going be deployed in September to Iraq. Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right also for this country. That our leaders, that our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God, that’s what we have to make sure we are praying for, that there is a plan, and that plan is God’s plan. So bless them with your prayers, our prayers for protection for the soldiers.How is this not saying that Iraq war is not a "task that is from God". How is that a lie. She said those exact words in your quote and my transcript.
I can't fucking take it anymore.
Jeebus, it is if you can read
This:
is not the same as this:
It's just not.
NOTE * She's got an Obama-like use of anaphora going there: Pray for... Pray for... That... That's why bracketed [Pray].
Two for two, now, is it? This, the library....
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the use a link
Please show me where NO REQUEST WAS MADE.
Sure, I'll give you that no one knows which books because I haven't seen anything about a specific list, but the request was made, if I ask you to do this, will you do it.
That request may well have been made
A formal request to actually remove any books was not. And I repeat what I said above. The librarian is quoted by the ADN as saying she didn't know what books Palin might have had in mind, if any.
Er, Intranets...
"Please show me where NO REQUEST WAS MADE" would be proving a negative, right?
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Gah.
This is pathetic.
I found a list but the
I found a list but the poster of the list said it was unsubstantiated it so I didn't link to it.
Small Town Politics
...I learned more about grudges, viciousness, corruption, and politics in general (good and bad) when I moved to a small town than I ever imagined possible. Every scam imaginable plays out with little or no outside interference and usually with local law enforcement bought off by one side or another and while state and local laws are openly flaunted. D.C. has got nothing on some of the small towns in the US.
PB 2.0 - Supplement the wonk!
intranets
no formal request was made, pls see the link in my comment upthread (to records of the City of Wasilla, which records requests for removing books from their library.)
That's the only documentary evidence on the matter, as far as I can tell.
The statement that Palin asked a generic question about removing books comes from the Librarian who supported her opponent in her mayoral race, and whom Palin tried to get rid of, and Kilkenny, who was part of the campaign fighting the librarian friend's dismissal.
The librarian quit right before Palin started her second term. No requests to remove books by Palin were made of her replacement (who, I'm assuming, was appointed by Palin, although there's no evidence, even hearsay, to support that).
Story here.
Also from the article:
Palin admitted to making 'rhetorical inquiries" about removing books.
My totally unsubstantiatable theory is that Palin cared less about censoring books than finding grounds to dismiss a political opponent's loyalist. Even Emmons (the librarian) says Palin asked "What would your response be if I asked you to remove some books from the collection?"
But political squabbles between opponents don't have nearly the dogwhistle value of being able to say Palin's for censorship.
Yeah, Seems Kind of Straight-Forward, To Me
She clearly states and aspiration. She does not make a affirmation that the troops are on a mission from God, she aspirationally hopes that the troops are on a mission from God.
That said, the bigger killer in that same clip, I believe, is that she does say that God wants the pipeline between Alaska and the Lower 48 completed, if I remember correctly.
Pipelines and wars
I actually think it's rather interesting that her aspiration *seems* to indicate some degree of doubt whether the war is, in fact, God-approved.
As for the pipeline-- gah.
She is speaking to a religious group, I believe, however, and the pipeline would seem to be generally a Good Thing (leaving details of its contruction contract award and construction aside for the moment, about which I know little except that there's been some controversy).
If she'd gone on television as governor and argued for the pipeline because "God wants it," that would be an entirely different matter. But she didn't.
pipelines=jobs, which AK really needs--
it's not like they have a diversified economy like other big states.
Resources under the ground and melting ice and some timber and wildlife are pretty much all they have.
Hobson -- list
There is a list circulating, but it has been largely debunked, according to this site (see #41-43), which purports to separate facts from rumor on Palin.
Some of the items on the overall site are sourced, some not, but seems fairly good overall to me. It's funny, at least, which means nothing as to credibility but means something as to enjoyability. Worth a read.
Following links back further than I really have time to, it seems the original list now circulating was a long list thrown out by a random commenter, sans sourcing, on librarian.net.
It contains several books published after Palin was mayor, and the good folks on librarian.net traced it back not to Palin, but to a list of books commonly banned in the U.S., put out by publishers Adler and Robin. To the credit of commenters on librarian.net, the list was pretty thoroughly denounced/debunked in further comments -- very worried about censorship (of course) but not blinded by rage into advancing falsehoods, or even skimpily sourced materials. Yaay librarians!
Pipelines are not a "good thing"
Anymore than I believe that GM turning out SUV's in my homestate is a "good thing" just because it keeps jobs. I can't believe some are just letting her off the hook. It's more pathological rationalization. She said the crazy thing in church so it must be all right, huh? No.
It's one thing to aspire to understand your god's goal on earth. It's another to speak on it authoritatively like she did on the pipeline. I'll give her the break on the first one about the war, but the pipeline is inexcusable. I would think that a progressive board like this wouldn't excuse someone telling us with authority what her god thinks on a political issue such as the pipeline.