Messages to Hillary....

Hillary asked us to go to hillaryclinton.com and tell her what we thought we should do.

This thread is intended for people who go there and tell her to come back here and paste their letters….

mine is below the break

I haven’t contributed before, because quite frankly, I’m not working, and I have to pay for my own health insurance. But I’m contributing today.

Hillary, this is about the country — I started out over a year ago as “anyone but Hillary”. And when it came down to you and Obama, it was a tough choice — and I decided to support you because this country CANNOT take a risk on someone who we don’t KNOW can fix what Bush has destroyed.

But over the last four months, I have become so imporessed by you, that I now PROUDLY support you. You’re not just “better than the alternative” — you are EXACTLY what this country needs to move forward. You’ve given me…and ALL of us, a POSITIVE argument — which in this day and age is tough to find for a politician.

I do feel that i have to tell you that if Barack Obama is the nominee, I cannot vote for him — he simply is not Presidential material at this point. I won’t vote for McCain… I’ll just sit this out.

I cannot emphasize how important it is for you to fight on — especially after what happened on Saturday at the RBC. Do NOT under any circumstances leave this race until EVERY vote is counted — and counted the way they were cast. Do NOT let party insiders steal this election — I cannot remain in this party if the theft of YOUR delegates is allowed to stand, and if the women, latino voters, jewish voters, older voters and everyone else who gave you a resounding majority in Florida are treated as “half voters”

In America, we have no “half voters” — only corrupt politician who will say “treat these people with less than 100% of the dignity they deserve because they don’t support me.” Fight THAT fight, if you fight for nothing else.

Finally, tHank you, Hillary, for making me see that my cynicism is not always deserved, that politicians can be BETTER than I expect.

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Well done Paul. I'll go on over and chime in.

I love this job!

Dear Hillary,

Thank you for your service, your dedication and your committment. Thank you.

I hope you will stay in this race because it is far from over. I think a lot can happen in two months and in this cycle that’s more likely than not. Definitely do not concede, you lead in the popular vote and are much to close to tieing in delegates. The party is strong enough to withstand a longer campaign season and our country deserves a great president. Please continue to represent all of us.

You have inspired me and I thank you for that.

I love this job!

Here's mine:

Dear Senator: When this campaign began over a year ago, I believed you were the worst candidate for the Presidency. How very wrong I was.

Over these past months, I have read your policy positions, listened to you speak with passion on issues that are near and dear to me — ending the war, universal healthcare, affordable higher education, restoring America’s reputation around the world — and watched you handle the criticisms and misogynistic attacks by the media and opponents with grace, poise, and elegance.

I also learned more about you personally and was impressed to learn that you have always been fighting for the invisibles of society, for people like me.

Thank you.

Thank you for giving my 58-year-old mother hope of seeing a female President in her lifetime. Thank you for giving my daughter a strong, compassionate role model and for teaching her to believe that young women in our country truly can accomplish anything and aspire to any height.

For myself, my mother, and my daughter, I urge you to continue fighting, to continue working for the nomination. We are with you all the way.

I also donated again - my first political donation as an Independent.

Wonderful idea Paul

…and wonderful words by all. I’m still watching and reading coverage but I plan on putting in a letter of my own as well. It’s funny, I’m another person that didn’t start out as a Hillary supporter but now I can see no one else (I can’t vote for Obama — especially after the RBC debacle). After all these months of watching her, I am extremely proud and uplifted by her candidacy — on to Denver.

Hillary's "contribution" button

You do realize this is all about retiring her campaign debt, don’t you?

Here's my comments

Like a lot of you I was one of those ’anybody but Clinton’ people at the beginning of this race. I’d always liked her but felt that she would be the most divisive candidate. But after watching her debate performances, listening to her for hours on XM’s POTUS ’08 town hall meetings expounding on every imaginable issue with remarkable ease and expertise, and just seeing how well she comported herself while facing a hostile media and the most unbelievable drubbing from her own party with their endless, ridiculous, panicky calls for her to drop out, my respect for her increased every day. She was, and is, still definitely the most qualified candidate in my mind.

I donated to her tonight and these were my comments to her.

Senator Clinton:

Thank you, thank you, thank you for fighting for each and every one of us to get the chance to vote! And thank you for keeping going even when every media voice and so many members in your own party were calling on you to quit. Bill was right, you’re a “sticker”!! And that’s why I’m sticking with you!

Please do not concede. A lot of people already seem to have a case of ‘buyer’s remorse’ about their Obama vote. Also, don’t ever, ever consider running as Obama’s VP. Once again, it would be the case of the more qualified woman working for a less-qualified man. For me it’s POTUS only for you.

After the way the Democratic Party has treated you - why in the world would you want to stay in it? I really wish that you would consider running as an Independent. My husband and I are life-long Democrats and are so upset about the disenfranchisement by our own party of their own that we have registered as Independents. I can’t speak for him but I know that I will not vote for Obama as President, even if you run as his VP. I’m serious. I don’t see voting for McCain but I WILL NOT vote for Obama . Period, end of story.

Please, Senator Clinton, I beg of you, stay in this race until all of the votes are counted and the “will of the people” is truly represented! Let’s go on to Denver and show them how a democracy really works!

Congratulations on your record-breaking popular vote, Senator Clinton! I’m very proud to be your faithful supporter!

"Contribution button"

I personally don’t care if she spends it on whiskey and beer shooters. It’s up to her. I’m just showing her my support.

“Jesus and Obama have something in common; I’d like both of them to please save me from their followers.” - Darrow

Nice Idea

I’m going to take the night to let everything kind of marinate and then write something in the morning. Then I’ll kick in $10. Apparently Hillary’s speech sent Olbermann into a fit. She deserves something for that. Heh.

Hillary and contribute button

My thought exactly. The only expense left is paying herself back. I guess thats a good thing.

Unseemly

Hillary constantly talks about how she’s in this for the people who can’t afford health care or rising food and gas prices. Yet here she is, a multimillionaire, still taking money from these same hurting people. And for what? There are no more primaries. How unseemly. But it’s oh so typical of her and her husband, both of whom I’m ashamed to admit I once admired. What a sucker I was. These people have no souls. Even if Obama loses, I thank God these two rotten, soulless people will never be anywhere near the White House again.

Somebody didn't get the unity memo

It ain’t over until we say it’s over.

See you in Denver!

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“Rules are not necessarily sacred, principles are.”
- Franklin D. Roosevelt

We are in her debt

I only wish I could do more.

I already submitted my message.

But basically I said that since Iowa the press has been predicting that Hillary’s campaign has come to its end, and that with each of her successive wins the chorus of voices telling her to get out of the race has grown louder, but so too has the chorus of voters rejecting the media’s efforts grown louder. I asked that the chorus she listens to be that of the 18 million voters who know that she is the only candidate with the intellect, character, experience and sheer will to get in there and start cleaning up the mess that George Bush made. I said that we need her to continue to fight, and that taking it all the way to the convention is a small battle when one considers what’s at stake.

I also donated again, and although I know a lot of people are tapped out, I really do think that that is one of the things that will speak loudest. Not necessarily to her, but to be able to announce that she has raised a large sum of money after we’ve been told Obama is the nominee would certainly send a very strong message.

Give if you can give — now’s a really good time.

Is campaign debt a different legal beast?

You do realize this is all about retiring her campaign debt, don’t you?

Absolutely. Unfortunately, I hit my $2300 max during the primary campaign, so unless retiring campaign debt is a different legal beast, that’s all I can do.

It’s worth every penny to me. The way I see it, for Pennsylvania at least, my home state, is that my $2300 meant that UhUhhBama had to spend $9200, as he outspent her here 4:1.

Unseemly -- lol

I’m sure you think she should be more “ladylike,” too. And no souls? Puhleeze, your melodrama is a bit much — especially given the fact that you’ve no idea what you’re talking about and are relying on some mystical unknown method of assessment to determine the actions and thoughts of others as well as your own emotional projections, and perhaps a few other undisclosed processes (I wouldn’t dare call it logic), in order to reach your nonsubstantive based conclusions regarding the souls, motivations, and actions of both Clintons. The only thing “typical” is the melodramatic whining from the OFB anytime Clinton, her supporters, or anyone else doesn’t do and/or say exactly as you feel we should.

It ain't over till the lady in the pantsuit says so...

Obama has 2119, he needs 2118 to win nomination. For now, he has 2119. For now. Two of those 2119 are hospitalized, Kennedy and Byrd. What then?

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Actually, she has plenty of money earmarked for the general that could be used to retire any campaign debt if she doesn’t get the nomination. I’ve read that many times, so that isn’t an issue. Frankly, I wouldn’t care if it was. But of course, our trolls are out on every Hillary-friendly blog screeching this talking point like the good little mindless bots they are. Somehow it never penetrates their kool-aid eaten brains that they are losing votes for their Messiah every time they open their hate-filled mouths. At this rate, Obama’s November vote is going to be negative numbers.

Stay Classy, Imelda

Is that comment really worthy of your footwear?

What Shystee Said

Ick.

I was just gonna ignore it

like a fart at the dinner table.

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“Rules are not necessarily sacred, principles are.”
- Franklin D. Roosevelt

what an ass....

when I went to hillaryclinton.com, the intro page was all about asking us what we thought she should do.

THE “tell us what you think” part was CENTRAL to the page…the contribution button off to the side — and that takes you to a page where you fill in your information and make the contribution

But if you type in www.barackobama.com…. you are sent to a “secure” site that is about NOTHING but giving him money.

You have to find the “skip donation” button to find out anything about the Obama campaign. Hillary’s page has links to polities, issues, speeches —

and that is the difference between Clinton and Obama. For Clinton this race is about issues. For Obama the race is about the race — and that means that the first order of business is money.

Because she said she’d

Because she said she’d base her decision on what the people have to say, I went over to her website to politely ask her to concede and endorse, for the good of the party and country.

And it says: Stand with Hillary today and send her your message of support. I’m with you, Hillary, and I’m proud of everything we’re fighting for.

I hear you, but only if you tell me what I tell you to say.

Anyway, without really thinking this through I wrote my concede and endorse please spiel, sent it, and now I’m afraid I’m gonna be counted as somebody who asked her not to concede, and I’m also getting more Spam than Hawaii did in 1944.

unlike Obama...

who doesn’t think your vote should be counted unless its a vote for him, Clinton actually listens to people.

And if her supporters were telling her to concede, she would do so.

so, if you gave money to Hillary, or made phone calls on her behalf, or had even signed up on Hillary Clinton.com in the past, she’ll hear you.

But she already knows what the Kool-Aid drinkers want her to do — people like you have been telling her to get back “in her place” since Iowa.

Think of it this way — January was a tie. Super Tuesday was a tie. Obama has two good weeks after ST,(thanks to all four of the state that held primaries in the week after ST having huge percentages of AA voters). Since then, Clinton has had three great months.

If you care about the party, you’d be telling Hillary to press on. As soon as people focussed on the question “Clinton or Obama are your only choices — pick one”, its gone overwhelmingly for Clinton.

On to Demver and then

The message was short.

From memory:

Great speech, great campaign and it’s not over.

Let’s go to Denver and to floor and voice our opinion and represent ourselves: women, blue collar workers, seniors, Hispanics and just many other Democrats.

Denver is where the DNC started the slip downhill. They started by holding the convention in a famously anti union hotel. Then they got to decide on delegate allocation ignoring the voters.

There are many risks still to come, we have to go on fighting.

Senate Majority Please

Dear Senator Clinton;

At the proper time this summer, you should seek the position of Senate Majority Leader. Until then, please endorse Barak Obama and continue speaking out for your causes to the convention, including a full and fair seating of all of the delegates as originally picked in the primaries and caucuses. You have plenty of time to let the dust settle until that time when your political future is determined. Senate Majority Leader is what I believe you should fight for, not Vice President, and certainly not a vague promise of a cabinet position, serving at the whim and pleasure of a President Obama, abandoning your senate seat, and subject to a confirmation hearing. You are not a bureacrat, you are a leader. Even the offer is an insult to your accomplishment in this campaign and the depth and breadth of your national support. You can do more to fight for your goals, on your own terms as Majority Leader, and the position as leader of a co-equal branch of government is reflective of your support. Plus, I believe you will put a spine back into an institution which is currently invertebrate. No matter who is elected president, the senate needs the kind of strong leadership you will surely provide.

As for many others, you were not initially my first choice as a presidential nominee. However, over the course of last fall, I came to see you were the best candidate we had. I was disappointed in much of your early campaigning which lacked any flair or energy and sometimes even purpose, but kept contributing throughout. Then in February you hit your stride, and I have never been more impressed with a Democrat in my adult life. Unfortunately - for reasons I feel were mainly out of your control - it was too late. The fix was in against you, and while not fair, that is politics and a reality.

Your talents would be wasted as the VP candidate and accepting that position would be a major mistake. There is nothing that you can bring to cure Barack Obama’s core deficiency: he simply does not have the requisite experience to be President. It is clear he does not want you on the ticket and should you win, you would be marginalized. You have been bruised enough in this fight and in a general election, the Republicans will unleash all of the negative campaigning on you that they have been storing up all these years. Plainly, neither Obama, nor any of the rest of the Democratic leadership will defend you. Neither you, nor the country deserves that. If you are the Majority Leader, that is neutralized.

In closing, I’ll ask again that you please consider demanding the Majority Leader position, and not seek the Vice Presidency.

Thank you for directly inviting your supporters to voice their views. It is just the kind of classy and inventive move that I have come to admire in you.

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Good night and good riddance!

Last night you wielded us 18 million like a club.

You displayed us real Democrats - our strength. You learned from Obama in this campaign how to utilize the power of the people. And you leveraged our power for the Common Good.

You made it clear that our side of the Democratic Party has now proved that we real Democrats simply can’t be pushed around any more by the media.

Remember when Americans were deterred from voting by such measly criticisms as sighs, earthtones and screams…?

Those days are done.

You showed that they can even call us low info racists, even call our candidate an assassin, and

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING STOPS US.

We have shown the fascist ruling class running this country that nothing can deter us. The days of sighs and screams destroying us are done.

Your 18 million are the pragmatic fine print reading policy wonk side of the Party. We know we need your intelligence, your judgement, your pragmatism and indefatigable determination at the top of the ticket to make change happen. Only you can be the FDR this nation needs now. Your supporters know that bipartisanship is a chimera. There is a difference in the agendas between the parties for a reason.

Theres another 18 million sweet hypefilled dreamers on the other side, and many want the same things, and believe Obama can or truly wants to get it done. They are not bad people, but they are mistaken about that. You cannot cave to Republicans AND get the Democratic platform enacted.

His supporters didn’t happen to live where we need Democrats to, in enough swing states we must have to win the GE. This is too important. We just cannot lose at this moment in history, when we are so close to tipping points on climate.

For all their sakes as well as ours, take us to Denver. We have your back.

Bullshit

The email button is right there in the middle.

You don’t have to go through the contribution link to get there.

More trolls… It never ends…

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

Nice work on the Unity thing, there

It’s comments like this that increasingly convince me that there is no place for people like me in the Democratic Party once the Obama Movement takes it over.

Keep up the good work. The argument will be that I have no place to go. Maybe I should put some energy into creating a place to go?

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

Dealing with Obama Trolls

I’ve almost decided to respond to them by stating that thanks to them I am no longer even open to Obama’s candidacy and then every time a new troll appears explain that I was open to Obama’s pitch, but now will not consider it because of troll 1 and the new troll. And just keep a running list.

So that I keep making the point that far from helping Obama, they are part of the problem I have with Obama. Who knows, maybe if enough of us did that, they’d take it back to Axelrod and he’d do something.

"If only the Czar knew..."

I hate to keep harping on this, but at some point the line gets crossed. The only model that makes sense to me, that accounts for the way the Obama campaign operates, is that (a) control of the party machinery is the have-to-have for them, (b) to that end they are purging or disempowering all those who are not in Obama’s base, and therefore (c) the election is a nice-to-have for them, not a have-to-have.

The reason you feel that you’re being purged is that you are.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

My Message to Sen. Clinton

Senator Clinton,
Keep fighting — all the way to Denver. You are the choice of the people. Our country needs you and our party needs you. A great harm was done to you with the RBC’s decision regarding Michigan but more importantly, the heart and soul of the party was murdered on that day. It is now much bigger than you or your candidacy.

The RBC must not be allowed to usurp democracy, the DNC charter, fair reflection, the party’s own rules and stated principles, and operate outside the scope of its own authority all to the purpose of anointing a preferred candidate and bringing an early end to the process. Unity can’t be gained by forcing those who disagree into submission by brute force and without regard for our own rules. The RBC’s decision was an attempt to create an illegitimate nominee* for the sake of both preference and expediency. Hearing it masked in the rhetoric of unity made the offense all the more sickening.

Voters in Florida are not half voters and they should’ve been seated in full under “safe harbor” provisions. Voters in Michigan were disregarded in full under the language of “fairness.” The reduction of the MI delegation to half votes even after the illegal reallocation was used to mask the fact that the RBC had operated outside of its authority and nullified the will of the voters in MI — in essence tossing out the entire MI primary. These actions cannot be allowed to stand lest the DNC and the nominee lose all claims to legitimacy. What happened at the RBC meeting was a greater offense to democrats than the Supreme Court decision in 2000. In its essence, it was a “corrupt bargain” and one that dissolves our moral authority regarding voting rights and poisons the soul of the party.

We want our party back — the party that receives its authority and legitimacy from the voters not from itself. We want our voices heard and we want you as the nominee.

Sincerely,
**tnjen

Message from Hillary

I just received the email. She will have an event on Saturday in D.C. and will work for Obama in his candidacy.

Very gracious, as always, and on her mother’s 89th birthday I would say that is about as gracious as it gets.

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Good night and good riddance!

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