
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama says he probably would have to delay the spending programs he has called for during his campaign in light of the massive government bailout being proposed for the nation's financial industry.
"Although we are potentially providing $700 billion in available money to the Treasury, we don't anticipate that all that money gets spent right away and we don't anticipate that all that money is lost. How we're going to structure that in budget terms still has to be decided," Obama told NBC's "Today" show in an interview aired Tuesday.
"Does that mean I can do everything that I've called for in this campaign right away? Probably not," he said. "I think we're going to have to phase it in."
So, the $700 billion is a done deal, and America can get in line after the bankers and the Wall Street geniuses who sliced and diced their way into this mess.
"Enough"? Enough already, I would say. "Change"? Yes, indeedy. Just not the kind we were sold on. "Yes, we can"? Yes, indeedy. But, as always, the question has been "Yes w can do what?" and that question has been answered with a resounding "Hand over your money!" Well done, all.
So, as I said: The Ds won't give Wall Street a blank check. They'll write in the amount, sign it, date it, and then give Wall Street the check.
I certainly hope I'm wrong. Newberry's plan was a lot better, quelle surprise.
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I understand there won't be change
But now he's caving on hope, too?
We're still getting the ponies, though. Right?
Of course we're getting ponies
Don't worrry. Everything's going to be fine. There's still plenty of hopey-changey for the donors.
[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Ds to Wall Street Fat Cats: Here's Your 700B!
Ds to Rest of America: Fuck
You!
That's where it sounds like this is heading. Where are those pitchforks and torches I'd been setting aside for a rainy day...
"Do what you feel in your heart to be right -- for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. " - Eleanor Roosevelt
stand and deliver
we need a Department of Stand and Deliver
Yeah, your money or
your money.
And your life!
Policy not party!
We will push and push and push until some larger force makes us stop.
Bernhard at Moon of AL notes that now Treasury can purchase
any financial instruments--in his post about The Mother of All Hedge Funds.
Dodd's language broadens the purchasing areas! Altho, it had been in the process of morphing from mortgage related to just about anything, this makes that clearer. Would include the truly scary CDS's (credit default swaps). From the Dodd proposal:
Gotta run--doctor's appt.
I'd love to see what people more knowledgeable than I am about this stuff think of Bernhard's analyses (go read more at his blog--it's hair on fire time.) This may truly be a time when the cure is worse than the disease.
If They Aren't Careful, The Democrats Will Be Fucked
by, once again, their own lack of boldness. Anglachel on the Democrats' problem:
They're doing what they always do, take whatever shit the GOP hands them and try to simply make it less shittier at the margins when what they need is to come up with their own non-shit solution.
Now compare this to how the GOP will react, Patrick Ruffini via Anglachel:
Anglachel again:
The Dems need to quit trying to make Paulson's plan better (it is deeply flawed and dressing it up isn't going to change that) and put forth instead their own plan that will favor Main Street over Wall Street. Otherwise, the Dems are going to pass a deeply unpopular version of the GOP President's plan and then be blamed for it by the GOP candidates.
"Do what you feel in your heart to be right -- for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. " - Eleanor Roosevelt
Hillary?
Hillary advocated we bring in Greenspan and Rubin to to help with this mess.
Not Hillary's finest hour, I agree
It's what happened, in essence. But heck, she really is a centrist! And though I think very highly of her, out-of-box thinking has not been her hallmark (nor of anyone else in our ruling class, except for the thieves, of course).
[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Was This That Summit Idea from the Primaries?
or has she said something more recently? Because it seemed pretty clear to me that her statement during the primaries was designed to bring in big names from across the political spectrum and at the time I didn't think that was an awful idea so long as nobody actually listened to Greenspan. If she suggested Greenspan recently then that would be a different thing because I can't imagine bringing in an arsonist to help put out a fire.
"Do what you feel in your heart to be right -- for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. " - Eleanor Roosevelt
From the primaries
Definitely not recently.
[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Don't know much
about economics, but I read a lot of folks who do.From today's www.nakedcapitalism.com :
"One sign that the credit crisis is accelerating: Nouriel Roubini's forecasts are coming to fruition faster. In the past, Roubini has too often played the role of seemingly mad prophet in the wilderness until he is proven correct. His calls that the housing bubble would collapse in a nasty way, that subprime was most certainly not contained, that Freddie and Fannie would get in trouble, that total credit crunch losses would reach $2 trillion, all sounded apocalyptic and were generally ignored, to the detriment of those who failed to take heed.
The time between Roubini making a dire forecast and it coming to pass has just collapsed. From yesterday's Financial Times:
The next stage will be a run on thousands of highly leveraged hedge funds. After a brief lock-up period, investors in such funds can redeem their investments on a quarterly basis; thus a bank-like run on hedge funds is highly possible. Hundreds of smaller, younger funds that have taken excessive risks with high leverage and are poorly managed may collapse. A massive shake-out of the bloated hedge fund industry is likely in the next two years."
Comments to this post over @ NC suggersted that yesterday's 350 pt Dow drop was due to hedge fund redemptions rather than a response to bailout plan.
Thus far, Krugman has focused on pricing and getting equity warrants. I hope he comments on the inclusion of hedgies.