I've been a poor blogger so I haven't been part of this swarm. But I'm going to change that today. Please- whatever time you were going to devote to reading about Vick's poor dogs, please instead go to Jill's place and DNA's place for details. Lynching is alive and well in this country, and that should matter at least as much as the inhumane treatment of some dogs. There are 43,000 sigs on the petition and the Feds are finally getting involved, but of course we can't trust them to do the right thing.
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If the people in Jena had hanged a collie
Nobody cares CD they aren't dogs. Just black folk.
We Care, but you are right about not enough people caring
I heard about this only yesterday, on NPR; they did a good job of covering the outrageousness. I was going to post about it this morning...
I accept your juxtaposition of the Vick case and this one, which doeesn't mean that dog fighting is okay, although I personally felt that everyone had been fairly quick to assume that the charges were true.
But that this case hasn't made headlines....
I think I'll go ahead and do a regular post with the link to NPR...I know you might be wary, CD, and Zenophon, but take a listen...the reporter uses a neutral style of reporting, going to both sides, but it's the white folks who bury themselves with what they have to say...and the facts of what happened are devastating...
Here is where it matter whether or not you have a politicized Justice Department
exactly, leah
politicization of justice affects us all, as the law is our only remedy, our only protection. black folk haven't ever really had that, but for a while there, things were headed in the right direction.
one thing i greatly hate bush for is making it possible for all the racists to come back out of the closet, and "soft" racism fashionable again. i would like to think that is changing back, but then i follow this story.
glad to hear npr didn't drop the ball for a change.
This is essential stuff
The lynching, the animal rescue, the fight against torture, even (IMNSHO) ahimsa lest we become what we oppose... It is all the same critique.
This is all wonderful, essential stuff. Thank you.
No time to comment a lot--I hastily erased the comment I was about to write--but Jack and Jill and halfrican are--as I think the argot has it--totally hawt.
I have to say, that as a WASP, and a male, and deeply self-identified in both categories, I tend not to comment on issues or concerns that I regard as being "black." More, I think, out of concern for saying the wrong thing, and certainly because of a lack of expertise. OTOH, maybe the times demand that we all just jump right in, and not worry so much about giving offense according to whichever -ism is wired right to the backbrain and has red lights flashing....
To me, it's all about the exploitation of flesh, human or animal....
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lambert, there's even more to it than what you mention
from toosense's place:
and further complicating the matter:
so what we have here is a subgroup being ignored by a minority group being ignored by a majority group that seemingly cannot be pressured to treat black folk as human beings. my head spins, but still- the jena six vs vick comparison could be a case study in what is wrong with not only our media, but our organizations which are supposed to protect and defend people (NAACP, Justice).
i find this all particularly interesting because of the meta-message these two stories propagate. the jena 6 require 43000 people screaming for some attention and they might see some justice. micheal vick, rich powerful and beautiful, is still just a nigger, when the SCLM
and powers that be decide to sacrifice him as a distraction from the constitutional crisis threatening to boil over into the average person's awareness. both narratives reinforce that you have no real rights in this country, and that the face of powerlessness will always be in blackface, so far as our media is concerned.
too bad most white americans fail to realize that they have been wearing the blackface for some time now. but the way in which these stories have been treated, i suspect that's part of the point- to make oppressed white folks feel better about it, knowing that there will always be black folks even more oppressed.
That's a classic ploy, indeed
Maybe if masking/masques became a societal norm for walking outside -- perhaps when the heat from global warming becomes too much -- we can not give the lizard backbrain the stimulus it so craves.
Is there racism in Second Life, I wonder? And if so, how does it manifest?
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Jena 6
Scholars and Rogues had a great article on this a few weeks ago. I don't have time to go and search for it, but if you do, it's well worth the read. This is morally outrageous. And appalling. They've turned this back to the 1930-1950's again. This is exactly the reason why we've been screaming on the left about why no one should ever politicize main justice.
Jena 6
Speaking to everyone who has voiced his or her concerns in regards to Jena 6.
My mind is constantly wondering and my thoughts have been cloudy for years in regards to racism and discrimination. You see I still have not fully grasped nor do I understand how any “man” could enslave another “man.” I don’t understand how “we” as a race of people can identify with a higher being “God” yet have a heart filled with hatred. Who do we serve? Today’s society is shaped by our ideas, knowledge, experiences, morales, etc., people of color are not trying to relive nor desire to revisit history. Unfortunately, some of White America never let go of the history that was created by their forefathers. This is sad!
We talk about a justice system but that system has been flawed for centuries. Not only for Black America but for mankind period. When white mothers can kill their innocent children, blame a black face just to avoid shame,and then serve minimal jail time if any - what type of justice do we call that? When white women (teachers) can have sexual relationships with their students (black or white) and the exception is given to some based on upper class status - what type of justice is this? When white men rape, commit incest, and torture little boys and girls (black or white), some are given harsh sentences but others (e.g., priest, principles, politicians) receive a slap on the wrist - what kind of system would do such? All of these are examples based on how the justice system responds to White America but when it responds to Black America - you best believe that regardless of the crime he or she will do the time.
This exist today! I now understand why other countries despise and resent the United States. How can we win a war when we’re still in battle against racism, prejudiceness, and discrimination. Women and men (black and white) serving this country and dying on the battle field in Iraq - for what? I understand why the fire burns continously for the people in Iraq, Africa, Sudan, Korea, China, etc., these people would rather die defending their country, to remain detached from our “democracy.” What democracy? The United States is trapped within itself and until it releases hatred, racism, prejudiceness, and discrimination - acts such as Jena 6 will continue to exist and equality will continue to disintegrate.
This is our opportunity as a race of people to unite and denounce what is taking place in Jena Louisiana. Because if we fail to do “anything” - history will not be repeated because people in today’s society will not “stand” for enslavement. This will lead to nothing but chaos. Other rural towns will mimic this incident and the cycle will continue until the justice system has been liberated for “all” of mankind.
What day, week, month, year, decade or century will this happen?
Posted by Lekeytha Thornton | Friday, August 24th, 2007 at 1:08 AM
Here is the Scholars and Rogues link
Here.
(Parenthetically, I didn't know Doug Marlette had died. Sad.)
No authoritarians were tortured in the writing of this post.
I find this whole jena 6
I find this whole jena 6 thing horrible. First off black racists blame the white student who was severely beaten, as if HE were the ones hanging the nooses. Secondly, if 6 white teenagers beat the living hell out of a black student nearly killing him, would the NAACP still appeal for the white students' equal rights because they are minors? Im betting the Naacp would be wanting the DEATH Penalty if this happened in reverse.
This whole fiasco says one thing to people like the Jena 6, if you're black and nearly kill a white student, we will throw money at you. I find it disgusting how many blacks feel white people "owe them something" for slavery. That sort of attitude is what perpetuates this hatred. I wasnt alive during slavery, i myself am a slave to corporate america.
The naacp is no different than the KKK or the Nazis, hate with a different name brand and label. They are a LEGAL racist group, out to many money, they like the Klan and the Nazis, dont give a damn about "their race" or their people, they care about money and power. They use FEAR and RACISM to perpetuate this.
You can say how i don t know what im talking about, but im "white" so to say, i grew up in the ghetto, ive been the victim of anti white racism my whole life. In june 2005 i was beaten badly, nearly to death? WHY? Because im a FUCKING CRACKER MOTHERFUCKER, so to say. I used to be a liberal before that, i even helped groups like the naacp before my eyes were opened quite violently to the fact that it is OK for whites to be beaten. Its ok to say CRACKER, just dont say nigger. My case was filed as "assault" DO i see the NAACP rallying to MY civil rights, NO.
Could you just imagine if i had beaten a black man and called him a nigger while doing so? Yes you guessed it AL Charlatan and his race hustling poverty pimps would be holding a rally in my city.
Two weeks ago my cousin was robbed at gunpoint and pistol whipped by two black assailants, they tried to take his life because he appeared white. His crime? he was merely trying to deliver pizzas, when the criminals who phones in, gave a phony address, and set him up in an ambush. Where is the NAACP to rally for HIS civil rights? Oh thats right they only care about civil rights when it benefits them.
Whats even funnier is even though i appear "white" my ethnicity is Native American. If anyone has the right to whine and cry about how their race was wronged, MY ancestors were forced off onto reservations while our government perpetuated a massive land grab. Many of us didnt survive that "corralling" That many of you now know as "the trail of tears"
By attacking innocent whites, you are forcing them right into the arms of extremists, youre turning liberal allies, into "Nazified" enemies. Whats even worse is the "white people" youre attacking may not be white, but native american, or paler skinned blacks. The revenge you seek is foolish, and counterproductive. The people who enslaved the black race centuries ago are now rotting in the cold earth, isnt that enough for you, or must you spill more blood of the innocent to appease your twisted vision of "civil rights" and "equality"