
Howard Fineman reminds Obama that the only good Democrat is a Republicrat.
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Howard Fineman reminds Obama that the only good Democrat is a Republicrat.
Do we have a "Department of Gilding the Lily"?
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they're all constructing the 1" x 1" box he'll be in--
and he and Congress have been helping them all along too.
Also, they're (unnecessarily this time with him, in my view) threatening him--if he listens and acts in ways other than demanded by the Village
, he'll get the Clinton treatment. They do it to all Democrats--and never Republicans--but Obama is too new for them to be really sure he won't step outside the box (they're sure about Biden and Pelosi/Reed/others tho). Republicans are supported no matter how extreme or horrible or damaging their actions are, and are praised for acting out--Obama won't be, and they're making that crystal-clear every single day.
And they've invested way too much in pushing him and selling him as their dream president (much more than Dubya pre-9/11 for sure)--they made him, and they will break him if he tries anything they don't want.
"They've all oversubscribed"
a good take on the investment they've made in him --
-- "... But if Obama wins, these scribes know that they'll be facing the toughest assignment of their careers. They've all oversubscribed to the notion that Obama's candidacy is momentous, without parallel, and earth-shattering, so they can't file garden-variety pieces about the "winds of change" blowing through Washington. They're convinced that not only the whole world will be reading but that historians will be drawing on their words. Will what I write be worthy of this moment in time? they're asking themselves.
... So they're not as much in love with Obama as they're in love with the idea of Obama, of the "meaning" of his run for the presidency, of the redemption he offers a sinful nation that scratched slavery into its liberty-loving Constitution. ..."
-- Countdown to the Obama Rapture: Watch as the press corps battles its performance anxiety! -- http://www.slate.com/id/2203193/
(which will make the "knocking off the pedestal" part to come all the more nasty, i think)
Post-Partisan People...
...Are the best kind of people, right?
The Village
always knew that it was harder to cajole Hillary into playing by their rules than it was for Obama. They knew that they were the ones that manufactured his character and held his popularity in their hands. What I've always wondered is if Obama realizes this symbotic relationship, or if he's stupid enough to believe that he controls them? Because, they are warning him by the day that they will destroy him if he veers from Village Rules. And, unlike Bill, Obama has nowhere near the strength to salvage his image after the Village goes on a rampage against him. Everyone knows that the minute the Village checks out of the Obama campaign, the house of cards falls.
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...
Obama may be many things
But stupid isn't one of them.
Does he show any signs whatsoever of not deeply understanding his symbiotic relationship with The Village
?
None whatsoever.
And since that is so obviously the case, an even more pertinent question might be, does he show any signs whatsoever of not loving every second of it?
"You'd better get this straight. Wise up before it's too late." -- Sister Sledge
JFK has been shot, we miss him a lot
He always knew what to do
-- Philly Cream
Hubris-induced stupidity
can strike anyone, no matter how well they did getting into Ivy League universities or deliver teleprompter speeches.
Yes: The Reverend Wright Debacle
There was some reporting (maybe, I'll try to find it) that said he was genuinely shocked by the presses reaction to Reverend Wright, something he shouldn't have been. Perhaps, the question isn't so much a two-sided "does he understand the relationship, or not" but rather "how well does he understand the situation?" It's my opinion that he understands it pretty well, but given how closely he's tied to them (closer than any president in awhile) he'd better understand even better about the relationship than he already does.
He's setting himself up for a showdown, with them. My question is whether or not he realizes just how ugly their first fight will be, and how readily and forcefully the Village
will remove their blessing from him if he crosses them too greatly?
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...
he thought they would ignore it, like
they did with so many other things about him, and still do (and always did for Bush and Reagan, etc)--but there was video, and then fresh video of the guy himself.
That's why at first he had his non-"conversation on race", which the media all raved over--which was before Wright fought back, and then had to dump Wright after explicitly saying he wouldn't and couldn't ever possibly do that.
His whole campaign has been tailored for the media--and he's responded every single time when they've demanded he do something, i'd say. Governing like that will be a nightmare for the rest of us--if it's even possible.
"He’s setting himself up for a showdown, with them."
Sez who?
Might not be the kind of showdown we'd like
See here:
I would expect a lot more of that. I don't think we'll see a showdown in the form of, oh, reinstating the Fairness Doctrine, or reversing media consolidation.
[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi
It's inevitable
No one in that office can please the Village
100% of the time; no one. And, those that try set themselves up to please them fail 100% of the time. In other words, it's a relationship he should have never entered into in the first place. They complete him because he allows them to do so.
Please understand that I'm being ultra-meta with this one.
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...
yup-give them an inch...
and all that.
they're demanding more than ever--even tho they have less and less real access to him, and the campaign treats them like dirt (which is very Dubya/Rove--catapulting the propaganda and all that).
Maybe Obama will throw them away like he throws everyone he uses away once he gets his goal? (That they won't stand for.)
Yeah, The Showdown Could Go Either Way
It may be opposing the Village
over actual progressive issues, but even more likely than that, it will be some petty procedural showdown with the Village. You know, one won't like the others' tone towards them or some other kind of petty bullshit like that.
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...
they've made it impossible--
on one hand, he's supposed to be transformational (which presumes great things and action, etc), etc--and on the other he's supposed to be post-partisan (which means that great things can't actually happen in reality) -- he and the media have both built those things up to be defining.
Drew Westen--the newest person "helping" Dems--
A Psychologist Helps Repackage Democrats’ Message -- http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/30/us/pol... --
"... Several Democratic consultants say it is the first systematic, data-driven effort to mold the language of the left to fit the sensibilities of the center.
Dr. Westen’s advice can be heard when Alisha Thomas Morgan, running for re-election to the Georgia House in a conservative suburb of Atlanta, uses the word “leadership” in place of “government” and speaks about the middle class instead of the poor.
Or when Andrew Gillum, a city commissioner in Tallahassee, Fla., who is fighting a ballot initiative against same-sex marriage, tells members of his predominantly black church of the human desire for dignity and respect instead of lecturing them on the evils of discrimination.
Democrats of higher office who have heard Dr. Westen have also shifted their rhetoric, as when Senator Mary L. Landrieu of Louisiana, fending off a Republican challenger, not only says that “health care is a right for every citizen” but pointedly adds, “Particularly citizens who are working hard every day.”
Dr. Westen advises jettisoning wonkish 12-point plans in favor of direct emotional appeals that can compete with those evoked by Republicans using terms like “family values” and “the war on terror.” ..."
Westen differs from Lakoff how?
[Serious
question.]
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We can't afford not to have single-payer!
We can't afford not to have single-payer!
did Lakoff tell pols to ignore
the role of govt in our lives, and whole segments of the population, and valued Democratic strengths--like civil rights?
I thought Lakoff just wanted everything re-worded--not ignored altogether. Westen seems to be telling politicians to throw issues/populations/programs, etc--and the role of government entirely as a force that realistically and practically acts for us--under the bus. Talking about "leadership" is intentionally not saying that government should act. Talking about "respect" is intentionally not saying that government has a role to stop injustice and inequality. ...
see this part, too--
"... Instead of using euphemisms like “pro-choice” and “reproductive health,” his handbook suggests, liberal candidates might insist that it is un-American for the government to tell men and women when to start a family or what religious beliefs to follow, arguments that test well in focus groups with conservatives and independents. ..."
That's telling voters that government has no role or function in ensuring our rights or the constitution or even existing laws--let alone creating new laws that protect and help us.
Agreed
I've loved Lakoff since reading Where Mathematics Comes From, [warning: I'm a mathematician.]
He had the first analysis to mathematical language that made sense to me, in ages. That gets him a whole lotta credit, but nobody gets a free ride.
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We can't afford not to have single-payer!
We can't afford not to have single-payer!
when the GOP/right does it,
we know what their goals are--and the people they're trying to reach know too, no matter how it's worded. See this on CA's marriage amendment, for instance -- http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?i...
we don't know what the pols using Westen's wording really believe or will make a priority--are they intentionally misleading and soothing conservative and independents to get in office? what's their goal beyond getting elected? -- especially in terms of these issues that they are advised to speak that way about and be vague/libertarian on.