
which I didn't see, being at a meeting in my town. But reading the transcript:
1. I'm glad, glad, glad that asshole Bush isn't President any more (assuming, for the sake of the argument, that he was ever legitimately elected in the first place).
2. If that little scut Favreau wrote the speech, he did a good job. None of the anaphora, none of the soaring rhetoric, and a sober sense that, who knew, people might really be hurting. [Lesson learned: Pushback works, if only little by little.]
3. Interestingly, the word "bipartisan" doesn't appear in the speech -- although it's tagged that way in the version I read, at the Times.
Missing:
4. Who's accountable? Why are we in the situation we're in? The closest I've heard him come is "theories," which is certainly an advance, in that it attacks the Conservatives, but is there any recognition that actual people made policy decisions or business that had the effect that they did? If restoring trust in the markets is key, then isn't it essential to expose and weed out the untrustworthy?
5. Where's the money? Two trillion to Hank Paulson's golfing buddies and we don't know where it went or what was done with it. That's the elephant in the policy room, and it's a mighty big elephant.
5. Back to accountability, Obama on TARP:
It means that we correct some of the mistakes with TARP [Troubled Asset Relief Program] that were made earlier, the lack of consistency, the lack of clarity, in terms of how the program was going to move forward.
Well, where were you when the bill was written, for pity's sake? The lack of clarity and transparency happened because of legislation the Democrats wrote and passed, and that you whipped for.
6. The bottom line on the economy:
My bottom line is to make sure that we are saving or creating 4 million jobs, we are making sure that the financial system is working again, that homeowners are getting some relief.
Then you need to support HOLC for the homeowners, and single payer both for the workers, and to get the employers out of the insurance business. (Hey, we might even make Detroit competitive with Canada!) And I'd also like to see "working" defined a little bit better for the financial industry. Why not turn the banks into regulated public utilities?
7. On Iran, good!
And my expectation is, in the coming months, we will be looking for openings that can be created where we can start sitting across the table, face-to-face diplomatic overtures, that will allow us to move our policy in a new direction.
8. A critique of Republican language. Good!
But what I've -- what I've been concerned about is some of the language that's been used suggesting that this is full of pork and this is wasteful government spending, so on and so forth.
First of all, when I hear that from folks who presided over a doubling of the national debt, then, you know, I just want them to not engage in some revisionist history. I inherited the deficit that we have right now and the economic crisis that we have right now. ...
But when they start characterizing this as pork, without acknowledging that there are no earmarks in this package -- something, again, that was pretty rare over the last eight years -- then you get a feeling that maybe we're playing politics instead of actually trying to solve problems for the American people.
And, incidentially, the "no earmarks" is a shout out to Pelosi, for those who can hear it.
9. The banksters and TARP Now we get some accountability:
What got us into this mess initially were banks taking exorbitant, wild risks with other people's monies based on shaky assets and because of the enormous leverage, where they had $1 worth of assets and they were betting $30 on that $1, what we had was a crisis in the financial system.
Double-edged sword, though. Why wasn't that obvious back when TARP was passed, and if it was obvious, then why was TARP passed so that it could be turned into a totally opaque giveaway?
And again:
We averted catastrophe by passing the TARP legislation. But, as I said before, because of a lack of clarity and consistency in how it was applied, a lack of oversight in -- in how the money went out, we didn't get as big of a bang for the buck as we should have.
On averted catastrophe: No evidence on offer. Nor is it clear that averting catastrophe and passing TARP as drafted are the same thing. Notice, as so often in this story, the lack of agency in the language: "how it was applied..." Well, who applied it? "how the money went out" Well, who sent it out, and where did it go? And so forth. Beyond questions of policy, that language gives me no confidence at all that Obama's got a grip on the financial crisis from a systemic standpoint. Especially since Geither and Summers are part of the financial class that created the crisis to begin with. Can't we get some DFHs in there? You know, because they were right, when everbody in power now was wrong, and in many cases personally profited from the disaster?
10. Say HOLC! Say it! Say it!
We are going to have to work with the banks in an effective way to clean up their balance sheets so that some trust is restored within the marketplace, because right now part of the problem is that nobody really knows what's on the bank's books. Any given bank, they're not sure what kinds of losses are there. We've got to open things up and restore some trust.
We also have to deal with the housing issue in a clear and consistent way.
The banks balance sheets and the housing issue are two sides of the same coin, since the banks are the lenders, and the homeowners are the debtors. To clean up the housing issue is to clean up the banks balance sheets, modulo the creators of toxic derivatives, who should fail and be punished, hopefully with jail time, as part of creative destruction. And the way to clean up both crises, contra Lord Eschaton, is not by onesies and twosies in bankruptcy court, but as Nouriel Roubini suggests, by a twenty-first century Homeowners Loan Corporation, which has two great merits: It's been proven to work under FDR, and it actually returned a profit to the government by the end of its program life.
12. Calling Doctor Freud?
One of my bottom lines is whether or not credit is flowing to the people who need it. Is it flowing to banks -- excuse me. Is it flowing to businesses, large and small? Is it flowing to consumers? Are they able to operate in ways that translate into jobs and economic growth on Main Street?
13. Utter crap on Leahy's proposal for a Truth and Reconciliation Commission:
So I will take a look at Sen. Leahy's proposal, but my general orientation is to say let's get it right moving forward.
Yeah, why can't you get over it?
14. Even utterer crap on entitlements:
Having said that, I think there are a lot of Republicans who are sincere in recognizing that, unless we deal with entitlements in a serious way, the problems we have with this year's deficit and next year's deficit pale in comparison to what we're going to be seeing 10 or 15 years or 20 years down the road.
Good to know that Big Money isn't entitled to two trillion dollars of our money with no transparency and no accountability. Oh, wait. Those aren't the kind of entitlements he's talking about?
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Well, I'm not going to let Bush throw the curve off; so just because Bush would get an F doesn't mean that Obama gets an A.
I was going to give Obama a B- because, Jeebus, at least he's doing the homework and thinking, for pity's sake. He's not insane!
But the pure Village
slop on the Truth and Reconcilation Act -- which should be hailed as an act of courage, not denigrated as backward looking -- and reinforcing The Big Wienie on the coming theft of Social Security force me to knock him down to slightly better than average. And I find the general lack of willingness to hold people and institutions accountable, both in the language and the policy choices, disturbing. It's what Versailles
wants, and it's in every line of this presser.
Could do better!
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Could be worse
As every single one of my Scandanavian relatives have told me over and over again.
I have different take on the dance around BushCo investigations and prosecutions. Obama does not want to take it on himself; this is, I think, a correct decision for a number of reasons. One, he will be swamped under it, and every other thing he tries to do will be held hostage. As we've seen from the stimulus bill, doing anything very responsible is already tough; if Obama appears as anything but remote he will be made to pay by having everything he tries tied up with demands that he back off.
Additionally, what ever investigations take place must have at least the appearance of dispassionate inquiry. They will be challenged and lied about regardless, but I believe an independent commission is probably the best way to start. What emerges that has the taint of criminal activity will have to be investigated, and Obama has said that criminals will be prosecuted. It is, I think, the right course to let the process drive events at a remove from Obama himself.
We will have to see what is actually done, but Obama has promised to be much more open with document releases. If he follows through, the commission will have as much as it needs to decide who did what, when, where and how.
The outcome of this investigation will be most powerful by assigning actions and openly discussing the lies and misdirections. It will be enormously valuable simply to discredit and shame those involved, and permanently stain their reputations beyond the ability of their apologists to bleach. With their perfidity permanently on display as a result of an independent asessment, no one will be able to defend any of the conspirators.
Lastly, any prosecutions that result will have strong public support and be free of the taint of political revenge. Those are both key elements, if convictions are to have any meaning and not result in creating martyrs. If Obama shows anything other than reluctance, none of this will be achieved.
I think - OK, maybe I believe - that this political need to show reluctance is at least part of why Obama chooses the kind of non-assignment of agency that he doggedly employs when "everybody knows" these monsters are guilty as sin. It could, I will allow, also just be a studied lawyerly vagueness, a formalized reluctance to assign judgement without a trial, or indeed an actual unwillingness to engage in order to protect the guilty; I can't read his mind. Regardless, it is I think the better course in support of the ends I seek - actual criminal prosecutions.
Speech
Lambert, I noticed the exact same things about the positives. It was good to see someone able to string together a few sentences, for once, and someone with a bigger vocabulary give voice to concerns. That was the first thing that struck me. I was also glad to see him portraying the Republicans as insane, if only even in the most gentle manner. The fault in all of this is that he should have gave this speech coming out of the gate, on this thing. In fact, I said not that long ago that he should have given this address at the start of this thing to take control of, and focus, the stimulus debate.
As for the negatives, that's quite a bit too many words for me to read, at this moment, but I'll get back to you.
BTW, anyone else think Helen Thomas asked a strange question?
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...
Is it now standard DC mode to use the passive forms?
I was thinking how different the Declaration of Indepence would be if written in this manner. Avoiding saying who did all the grievous actions that the colonists were rebelling against, no mention of King George, etc.
The Helen Thomas question was code for:
"Will you at least acknowledge the reason we have a special relationship with Israel is because they out of all the other Middle East states have nuclear weapons?"
http://tinyurl.com/d6strd
Like the Truth & Reconciliation issue (which the way Dodd frames it, is ass -- no Reconciliation will come without testimonial immunity, and unlike SA apartheid, those bastards violated US law and the Geneva Convention), the Middle East nuclear issue is about whether this Administration will change the previous policy, which of course, being so soon in the game, they won't really. Too partisan.
Thanks, cg.eye
I can't believe her question went right over my head, like that, but it's probably because my mind lapsed back to the media propoganda that "Middle East" equals "Arab". I actually feel very embarrassed to even admit that, but it's exactly why I missed where she was going with the question about whether Obama new a Middle Eastern nation with nukes. Oy!
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...
Left Eye on the News addresses the Helen Thomas question, in
context of what Obama was saying about Iran, that if they had nukes everyone else in the neighborhood would begin an arms race. So she gave him a chance to show he was a member of the reality-based community and admit Israel has oddles of nukes, but, so far, no big arms race of the atomic sort. Obama avoided that, maintaining the polite fiction/poiticaly correct fiction that Israel has no nuclear weapons.
Here's the part where Eli dissects Obama's answers about Iran/Israel (quoting since I can't get into LeftI's links, a weird thing that happens to me every so often over there. Strange.):
P'raps because to have a 'race' you need
more than one participant?
arguably the raid on the Iraq site in the 1980s was an effort to spike competition.
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18
Where is Bill?
Basically, I agree with Lambert. Still, Obama has lengthy answers that Bill Clinton would've put succinctly. Obama's language is mundane and uninspiring while Bill has the whole pallet of expressions he will be using.
Obama talks like a technocrat; he is here to fix the pipes. He doesn't pose the almost-depression as a moral issue, which it is. We, Democrats, find what happened immoral and oppressive. We think that the Republicans are the enemies of the people, kind of terrorists, and what we want to fix is the immorality that is prevalent on Wall Street, CEO compensation and income immense inequality.
KoshemBos
Bill Clinton's answers to questions were little essays--topic
sentence (he would repeat/reword the query to ensure that he understood what the questioner wanted to ask and to let the public know what he was answering. He would summarize his answer, in the beginning, then expand on the answer with details, linking it to other things if appropriate. There might be explanations of policies, discussion of how they applied, some examples from real life, etc. Then he would summarize his whole answer in the closing.
All fairly brief: long enough to be clear, short enough for a listener to follow and understand, even with complicated subjects.
He was a master at making the complicated comprehendable to the lay person.
I really miss that.
Yes, Obama is far better than BushBoy, but he's not close to Bill Clinton in extemporaneous answers.
I tried to boil down complex issues as Clinton did--it's very, very difficult to do. Takes really knowing the subject, inside and out, and having determined what the most important parts are.
So, it's only been 8 years since we had a president who could speak extraordinarily well. He could do Southern preacher, but seldom did. Now, Clinton did not have JFK's grace and wit; Clinton did not do humor all that well. But neither does Obama. Clinton had that ability to talk about important issues in ways the public could follow and understand.
Obama does excellent teleprompter speeches; last night the difference was once again very apparent. He is getting better extemporaneously (so much better than in the primaries, where he often ran out of time before getting to his point), with fewer hems and haws; he will get better as he does it more and learns more about what he's doing as president.
But it would be nice for him to make his points clear to the listeners. In some answers he did that fairly well, but in others? Difficult to follow bcz it wasn't clear where he was going. I imagine reading the transcript makes things more clear.
But, Bill Clinton had had all those terms as governor to hone his speaking skills. Probably learned early on that if people don't get what you're saying they think you don't know what you're talking about. And Clinton did really know what he was talking about, so he wasn't searching for what he was going to say so much during his answers as Obama does.
I only
watched part of it but I would give it a C. He appeared defensive to me. I think trying to defend something that you really don't believe in is hard and that's pretty much what I saw in a nutshell. Other than the fact that the press has been pretty rough on him and he can't seem to handle it.
Viewing may be different than watching
And that may, too, reflect Obama's academic background.
He certainly doesn't read defensive; he states a position, then frames and refutes it. That's called taking a punch. Bush didn't talk or think that way.
The wordiness -- I'm not yet ready to call it filibustering -- I put down to lack of experience. If he's talking this way in six months, we're in trouble.
First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi
defensive
I didn't find the actual speech at the beginning defensive, either, but how he responded to some of the reporter's questions was defensive. And, I also noticed like others did that the speech was smooth, but the answers to the questions, afterwards, were stacco (detached) relative to his speeches which are played legato (strung together). It's just his style.
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...
B- is about right
Good start, easily clearing the low hurdle of being better than Bush. He is not comfortable with press hostility yet; I am hopeful that this will get better as the months unfold. I was troubled by the certainty that the list of questioners was set, implying that this was essentially staged between his staff and the questioners. The Q&A was better than the opening remarks.
As to the substance:
He is right to emphasize job creation as the appropriate measure for every question that touched on the stimulus debate. Jobs are the keystone, which is why the Republicans are searching for a counter argument along the lines that "work is not jobs."
Brinington is right. Bush Administration criminality must be dispassionately addressed, delegated to relatively apolitical prosecutors, and removed from any hint of partisanship. We'll hear this sort of response from Obama for years, and it is only by the actions of his DOJ that we will know what it means. (Has Holder fired Alice Martin yet?)
Bringing up entitlements the way that he did (meaning Social Security modification) is simply inexcusable.