Obama is elected

Then what?

There's got to be a morning after.

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Mmm.

Hold Feet to Fire.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

Reporter to Mahatma Gandhi: What do you think of Western Civilization?
Gandhi to reporter: I think it would be a good idea.

Well, some of us aren't waiting to do that

And why should we?

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi

Alas, almost no one held his feet to the fire...

... when he didn't "ask for" our votes.

I was justly criticized for it when I clung to the idea that he was 2% less evil than McCain, and ever since the party insiders anointed him, he's done nothing but sell us out.

And that's before he has the job. In what way can and will we hold his feet to the fire once he bodily ascends to the White House?

If he wins big, I expect him to be fireproof-he may be fireproof

anyway, given that most Dems will be unable to oppose anything he proposes/demands. They would fear being labeled racist for not "working with" and fully "supporting" the country's first black president.

Hillary said she is going to work to get HOLC in place and work as hard as she can for Universal Health Care.

Care to place any bets on how many Dems will work with her? Given that Obama is advertising that his plan passes the Goldilock's soup tasting test?

Two Extremes-- One side wants government run health care with higher taxes; the other, insurance companies w/out rules, denying covererage. Obama's plan is just right, workers keeps their employer paid for health insurance and Obama will, well, hold the insurers' feet to the fire (can't deny preexisting conditions, he'll bring down costs--no "how."). Ha.

Sounds like more of the same.

Obama says the two extremes are wrong. Wow. One is something which does not exist; the other is the status quo. And what he seems to support is tweaking the status quo.

Of course, many more workers will not get employer paid health insurance--they'll get...?

$700B to a $Trillion or more to bail out Wall Street and the Merry Banksters. What will he not do to afford this flyer? And the next bailouts?

He's got his readymade excuse for doing nothing on all sorts of programs.

I expect lots of hortatory oratory, given with teleprompters.

Yes, I have not see the light and yes, I am depressed by our presdiential prospects.

Department of Bingo!

"Obama says the two extremes are wrong. Wow. One is something which does not exist; the other is the status quo. And what he seems to support is tweaking the status quo."

Mindreader.

He’s got his readymade excuse for doing nothing on all sorts of programs.

I said this to my husband this morning. All his ads here now are all about Wall Street. And it means Congress doesn't have to do anything either. We certainly won't get any help from republicans.

I'm sure he'll take care of our concerns "in his second term."

Disgusting.

We'll need to get the handcuffs off

See McClatchy here.

Of course, many many Villagers like being handcuffed. Especially if the handcuffs are made of gold, say.

Meanwhile, I'd rank an outcome where Obama has a percieved mandate as worse than an outcome where he doesn't, exactly because there'll be no way to put pressure on him at all, if he has a mandate. If I felt he reflected my values and interests, I'd be a lot less concerned, but since I'm under the bus, yes, I'm concerned.

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi

There's NEVER been any way to put pressure on him.

Not one time, not ever since the day he entered politics.

Prove me wrong, anyone.

Something is VERY wrong here.

"You'd better get this straight. Wise up before it's too late." -- Sister Sledge

JFK has been shot, we miss him a lot
He always knew what to do

-- Philly Cream

GW Bush never had the votes to claim a mandate

But he claimed one anyway. What makes you think Obama won't adopt that tactic? It would go so nicely with all the other tactics he has collected so far and then he would have a full set!

Given that Axelrod took the Rove campaign to elect BushBoy as

a model for electing a Very Modern Democrat, I'm sure he will view any win as a mandate.

The object of having power is using power. How they will use that power is not being shared with the voters (imho), nor what they will actually do.

So, we're left with Hope for good Change. And the shiney new politician has decided to simply let himself reflect whatever his observers hope to see.

When Clinton campaigned as The Man from Hope, he was saying his election would give people hope. But he also detailed, to the amusement of many in the MCM, what he would do to help people achieve their hopes. Obama? Not so much.

Oh, Lambert, that's an easy one

The campaign for Obama 2012 begins!

I'd try to play dumb, but I'm not that smart.

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Love it Blogtopus.

I love this job!

I love this job!

I'm waiting to see what kind of campaign

Republicans run against Obama. It seems to me that they are pulling their punches. McCain's celebrity ads drew blood and then mysteriously disappeared. The 527 ads are coming up supposedly. If they aren't as tough as the SBVT ads, then I'm going to be quite confident that the GOP has decided it's easier to take potshots at a putz for the net four year, than it is to have the White House.

"Someone needs to point out that elephants produce infinitely more shit than donkeys." Brad Mays

The Man and the Challenge(s)

(extra points - or else you're just old - if you recognize the 1950s TeeVee reference).

In 1932 we had a crisis, we elected FDR, and he dealt with it (I wouldn't go so far as to say he fixed it, but he did pretty good).

In 1952 we were bogged down in a quagmire in Korea, we elected Ike, and he got us out.

Obama might (if he's really lucky) be as good a President as Ike. It's unlikely he measures up to FDR, but there's no way he's FDR + Ike, and that's ignoring that global warming, energy/oil and health care are additional crises he needs to handle at the same time. A super-competent leader (Washington, Lincoln, FDR, LBJ) wouldn't stand much of a chance - with Obama, we're probably fucked.

Alternative scenarios:
1) "But the leadership in Congress will deal with those things"

2) "It's not Obama, but his advisors who'll rise to the task"

3) "Aliens (the outer space kind, that is) will land and solve all of our problems"

Of those, (3) is the only one remotely possible, and I'm not betting on it.

I vote for (3)

as well.

And the great Chicago machine will rejoice

Daley, Blagojevich and the cronies will breath a sigh of relief and start selling Olympics contracts to the highest bidder. Prosecutor Fitzgerald will be magically reassigned to something more important. Birds wills chirp, woodland creatures will frolic, and seniors and poor will continue to freeze in winter and succumb to heat strokes in summer.

Then What?

As has been mentioned, Obama's 2012 reelection campaign, of course.

Oh, and please brace yourselfs, folks, for Obama to do another World Tour after his election, and I'm talkng about an even more extensive one than he's pre-presidential victory lap. He will not be able to not do one.

The best possible outcome I envision is him picking excellent Secretaries, but that's about it, and even that seems to be a distant hope.

But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...

I'm afraid that "excellent secretaries" is

a synonym for "best and brightest," with Pakistan or Iran or North Korea... and certainly Afghanistan as their Vietnam.

VL for the win.

Bingo.

But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...

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