OH NO! Canada's going to be run by socialists, separatists, and uh, Liberals(?)

BRING IT HARPER. BRING IT!

To those of you who don't pay attention to Canadian politics, you really should right now. This is one of the most interesting times in Canadian political history. Right now 2 of the national parties, the NDP and the Liberal Party have forged a coalition deal that would, when the confidence vote fails (it's only a matter of time Harper, just deal with it) create a coalition government led by the Liberals. (You can read the accord here.) The Bloc Québécois is not formally part of this coalition, but has pledged their support for the next 18 months. (If only we could have Gilles as PM. *sigh*). Not only that, but Green Party leader Elizabeth May has also lent her support to the coalition. That means that 4 of the 5 major parties are UNITED behind this effort. And they have all made concessions. (As one does when one makes alliances like this. And also as one does to actually get shit done in government.)

Let me take a step back. Besides being evil, or as Gilles Duceppe likes to do let's just say that Harper is the Canadian Bush, Harper did a few things to bring this on. He did what every politician does and said that he would make an effort to work with the other parties, then he calls an election (which he said he would not call, btw) and the first thing he does is spit on the other parties. (Well, more accurately poke at them with a sharp stick.)

This is in no particular order, but has a common theme.

1) Proposes to take away public subsidies of political parties. As it stands now, each vote earns the party $1.95.

But because the Conservatives have such a strong fundraising base, their subsidy represents only 37 per cent of the party's total revenues.

By comparison, the subsidy amounts to 63 per cent of the Liberals' funding, 86 per cent of the Bloc's, 57 per cent of the NDP's and 65 per cent of the Greens'.

So who gets hurt? Every single party in opposition to the Conservatives.

Well there are several points in this one link so here's the link and here are the points:

2) Cutting public service pay

3) Suspending the right to strike for federal employees

4) (My favourite) PAY EQUITY! Who needs it!

And he would put a crimp in pay equity – a program that requires Ottawa to pay women equal wages for work of equal value – although there is no evidence that the current system is either iniquitous or expensive.

And then there's the Tories taping a private caucus call of the NDP. (Hello, ever hear of Watergate?)

The Prime Minister's Office handed out copies of the recording to reporters on Sunday, claiming it showed the NDP and the Bloc Québécois had long conspired to topple the Conservative government.

And there's also that whole thing where Harper and the Tories like to insult the Bloc at every opportunity. (Because they're evil and THEY HATE CANADA AND ARE TRYING TO DESTROY THE COUNTRY! HIDE YOUR CHILDREN! THE QUÉBÉCOIS ARE COMING!)

One poke too far? Did he seriously think that a *larger* minority in Commons would somehow make the opposition go against the Charter of Rights? That they would let you bulldoze through them doing whatever the hell you wanted? Yet he continues to show that he thinks that getting several more seats for the Tories makes him able to do whatever he wants without the confidence of the Commons. There was supposed to be a confidence vote that Harper put off until the 8th trying to stave off the inevitable. What happens now is up to the Governor-General. She has several (historic) options: If Mr Harper asks her to prorogue (all bills, motions, etc are expunged and the parliament is in recess), her likely response is to ask him to prove that he has the confidence of the House. He can’t do that, so he’ll either have to ask for an election or resign. If he asks for an election, she can’t really grant it to him given that she has a letter from the coalition - according to convention she pretty much has to allow the coalition an opportunity to demonstrate that they can govern. An election will be the last resort. This is what I'm hoping for and this is what historically happens. But we shall see, not won't we.

To see *exactly* what's been happening may I suggest CPAC (It's the Canadian CSPAN). December 1st's Question Period (I hope this works as a direct link to the video if not just search) is rather good and December 2nd's is even better. It was all over the news as this is a rather historic time in politics and times like these have never been seen in Canadian Parliament. (At least not broadcast.)

BRING IT HARPER!

Of course they want the prorogue, because it would give them more time to spread their lies. They're calling the opposition alliance and possible unseating of the Tory government an undemocratic, illegal coup. As one expert said Harper either doesn't know parliamentary politics or he's lying. I know which one my money's on. They're also saying that the separatists are going to be running the nation. Um, well, no, the Bloc is not part of the coalition and Duceppe already said that he pledged to support and do what's best for CANADA during the next 18 months under the coalition government. Again I say OH NOES! THE SEPARATISTS ARE RUNNING THE COUNTRY! OMG CANADA IS DOOMED! During the 12/1 Question Period session Harper kept saying that they refused to sign the Coalition Accord in front of a Canadian flag when there's a lot of footage of them IN FRONT of a Canadian flag. The guy just can't stop lying. Here's to a new government and soon.

But for some brevity (and common sense) in this situation may I suggest Canadian Cynic and Bloodless Coup!.

As a footnote can I just say that I know Dion would be in charge of the coalition for the next few months until his party chooses a new leader, btu I really think he hasn't been given a fair shake and has been blamed for a lot of things that had nothing to do with him. I'm far left of him, but he really impressed me during the debate and of all the recent Liberal leaders he's the only one that I actually could get behind. (Kind of like Hillary and the Democrats.) *sigh* Maybe this will give him a chance to prove that he's a good leader, but I think no matter what happens he will step down in the spring.

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Interesting times is sort of

an understatement. That he wants to take away the right to strike of certain federal workers is so much liike Bush, and the non-unionized Departmet of Homeland Security, which just happens to contain all of the former unionized federal agencies. Could it be that Bush is more subtle than Harper? The amusing part is that he's trying to pull these things off while he's a minority party. Bush is a smooth operator compared to this guy.

No kidding

He keeps throwing around the word mandate like somehow the fact that only 40% of Canadians voted for him somehow means that he can do whatever he likes. Nevermind that the majority of Canadians didn't vote for him, he has a mandate!

- “I do not think that word means what you think it means"

Le Bloc ou le mort!

Having more than one opposition party

obviously can be a good thing, especially when those parties actually oppose.

I caught a bit of this on CBC last night, but I didn't know what all the excitement was about. Thanks for the news. This is interesting and exciting. I'll have to live through you guys vicariously to get an opposition party fix. :)

Excellent!

This is really wonderful news for Canada. Harper is really scary, and yes very comparable to Bush. The NDP are the true progressives in Canadian politics (they were instrumental in us getting national health care back in the 60s) so that they will be in the government will be a very good thing and push the Liberals to the left (our capital-L Liberals are an inherently centrist and sometimes even center-right party but Dion is one of their more progressive members so that's good too).

The BQ is kind of a wild-card of course but they have said they won't actually work for Quebec separation for the time being (most Quebecois people don't support it) so they're really just a regional part right now and not looking to destroy Canada.

And Harper saying this is an undemocratic coup is just total BS as well considering that 62% of Canadians did not vote for his party and he is far to the right of what most Canadians want. The opposition has every right in the world to do this and should have done it a couple of years ago actually in my opinion.

The former GG is behind the coalition

read it here

I agree that they should have done this earlier and so have a lot of people I've been talking to. (Especially before the election.) But better late then never.

- “I do not think that word means what you think it means"

Le Bloc ou le mort!

Harper is a loathsome creature

but he isn't entirely stupid. Been following this in the blogs and newspapers, fascinating to watch the jockeying around. There's some speculation that Harper has deliberately provoked this crisis now, anticipating that without a majority he would lose the House's confidence at some point any way. Canada is headed into tough economic times and some of the problems, especially in the Prairies, are all but intractable. Claim is that Harper and the Cons want out from under the challenge and are more than happy to let the coalition take the blame for not relieving economic tough times. After the coalition falls apart in 18 months, as it may, there will be a new election and the plan is for the Cons to ride the public’s anger then to a true majority.

Make sense?

His crap economic platform

didn't help any. (Aside from the poking, nay stabbing at, with sharp sticks.)

For an economist he sure sucks at helping out the economy. (Like that's new *coughPAULSONcough*

- “I do not think that word means what you think it means"

Le Bloc ou le mort!

I guess Harper thought he was elected President of Canada,

although the last time I checked, you only get to remain Prime Minister so long as you command the confidence of the House of Commons. Demonstrating that right-wingers the world over are strangers to irony, Harper conveniently overlooks the fact that his entire tenure as Prime Minister (both before and after the October general election) has been at the sufferance of the Bloc Québecois, which always could have turfed him out and prompted the Governor General to ask the Leader of the Opposition (Paul Martin, then Stéphane Dion) to form a government. The tacit arrangement between the Bloc and Harper's Tories has been the proverbial elephant in the room ever since Harper became Prime Minister with nowhere near a majority in the Commons, but the Canadian Establishment has studiously ignored it because of its desire to bring the "benefits" of modern conservative rule to Canada and its continuing embarrassment at the ugly reality that the Tories have only been able to form governments in Canada in the past 30 years by cutting deals with Quebec nationalists like Lucien Bouchard.

I'm no Canadian, so if I've gotten it wrong I'd be pleased to be set right -- but if I am correct, it's pretty breathtaking for Harper to be denouncing the Bloc Québecois when they've been the principal prop for his minority government (however publicly aloof) until he brazenly betrayed them. Harper must think that Canadians are as idiotically distracted from political reality as Americans.

Quebec has a general election

coming up on the 8th I believe. Now that will be interesting.

- “I do not think that word means what you think it means"

Le Bloc ou le mort!

bringiton. Yeah, I'm also

bringiton.

Yeah, I'm also worried about the economy tanking and Harper using anger about it to get a majority in the next election but Harper's neocon economic policies will do a lot more harm to the economy in the short-run so I think the opposition can't afford to let him stay in power for another 3 or 4 years and mess things up more. They have to act now and worry abnout the next election later for the sake of the country.

HenryFTP,

Actually the Liberals and NDP could have brought down the Conservatives without the help of the Bloc prior to the last election in October of this year. Their fear was that the governor general would call an election in that case and the Conservatives would gain a majority (the conservatives did in fact pick up a lot of seats in our recent election but, luckily not quite enough for a majority).

The weird thing here is the role of the Governor-general, who is a non-elected symbolic throwback to our days as a British colony. But in these cases the governor-general still has a great deal of power to decide whether the opposition will be allowed to form a coalition government or whether an election will be called. The hope (and likelihood) is that since we just had an election two months ago, the governor general is unlikely to force another one in this case and will allow the opposition coalition to form the government.

Thanks for the clarification

on the balance of forces in the last Parliament, but Jack Layton and Gilles Duceppe did neatly skewer Harper as reported in Le Devoir:

Jack Layton a rappelé que les deux premiers budgets de M. Harper avaient été adoptés grâce à l'appui des bloquistes. «Le premier ministre ne devrait pas en faire une crise d'unité nationale. Il était prêt à travailler avec Gilles Duceppe dans le passé, et son gouvernement a survécu grâce à l'appui de M. Duceppe auparavant et il n'a jamais fait de tels commentaires à ce moment.» M. Duceppe a abondé dans le même sens. «Disons qu'il avait moins peur des méchants séparatistes à l'époque.»

Or in other words, when it was convenient for Mr Harper when he needed to get his budgets through the House of Commons, he was perfectly willing to rely on the support of the "nasty separatists".

It is a bit of a relic that you still have a Governor-General instead of a head-of-state but not head-of-government President like the Germans and Italians. Nonetheless the British have had no say in appointing Governors-General for generations, which is strictly a Canadian Establishment affair, so there is little functional difference between the G-G and a ceremonial President. It makes more sense than deferring as the British do to a hereditary monarch descended from an obscure family of minor German princelings.

I'm watching Question Period from yesterday

and I didn't think I could get any angrier, but can anyone please explain to me why Harper keeps screaming about Dion forging a deal with the separatists when Québéc when voted against succession a few years ago? (And Duceppe pledged to work for Canada for the next 18 months.)

I mean, I KNOW it's a scare tactic, but seriously dude it's making you look like a moron.

Dion's ROCKING IT! "Every member of this parliament received a mandate from the Canadian people to deliver a government that will face the economic crisis. The Prime Minister's failed; the PM doesn't have the support of this House anymore. Will he allow a vote to test if he has really the confidence of this House was [something] in parliamentary democracy."

I really like Dion.

- “I do not think that word means what you think it means"

Le Bloc ou le mort!

The Canadian media,

at least on CBC, is making the American media look like dumbasses.

They're actually citing history here. How refreshing.

You say that

as if it's something new.

- “I do not think that word means what you think it means"

Le Bloc ou le mort!

I'd watch more American news

if it resembled Canadian.

Watching Canadian news only reminds me of the ineptitude of American news. NewsHour used to be worth watching, but it, too, became sullied during the Bush administration tenure.

*sigh*

That's why I stopped watching US News.

If it wasn't for The National (CBC) I wouldn't watch any news at all.

- “I do not think that word means what you think it means"

Le Bloc ou le mort!

Stéphane Dion's

letter to the Governor-General.

(I read the whole thing in his accent. Also cbc.ca has the PM's speech and Duceppe and Dion's reactions to it. Harper's speech is loading. I put down 50-50 odds that I may puke before it's over.)

- “I do not think that word means what you think it means"

Le Bloc ou le mort!

The Bloc

At the current time, exactly where does the Q Bloc settle on the ideological spectrum? Given that they are a kind of reactionary movement (i.e. increased autonomy of Quebec), where do they currently lean on the ideological spectrum under their current leadership? I ask this because I'm wondering if they'll stick to their promise to support the new coalition for the alloted time, and if they do is there any conceivable trouble down the road when the government decides to move the nation back leftward? Their being supportive of the new coalition seems to make all of them kind of strange bedfellows and I'm wondering if perhaps this couldn't blow up in all of their facese? One thing is for sure, Harper ain't going anywhere and he's hardly stupid. Like a few others, I'm feeling a bit foily. Something doesn't seem quite right about this. I'm not implying this is something put together by Harper, but it's almost as if he saw it coming quite a few months back...

But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...

Harper gets permission to

shut down Parliament?! Otherwise, he'd have to resign or face a vote of no confidence on Monday which he'd lose.

Nice.

Are the Canadians screaming? They should be.

everyone i know

is screaming (or breaking things).

- “I do not think that word means what you think it means"

Le Bloc ou le mort!

who exactly is the "undemocraitc" one here?

"They're calling the opposition alliance and possible unseating of the Tory government an undemocratic, illegal coup. " says the leader of the party who has now has used an unelected official to suspend our parliament in a time of economic crisis in order to keep power

It's amazing how often right-wingers seem to project truths about themselves onto their opponents. I'm hoping this backfires and the hypocrisy comes back to bite Harper in the ass in public opinion.

you're not the only one

Good thing we never made a drinking game around Question Period. It would only need one rule. Drink every time a Tory tells a lie. (Or we could just stick to Harper if one's afraid of an alcoholic coma.)

- “I do not think that word means what you think it means"

Le Bloc ou le mort!

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