Fri, 09/26/2008 - 5:42pm — lambert
[UPDATE CNN live feed via Calculated Risk, who also has a great take on the current... crisis and Emperor Paulson's plan. -- lambert]
UPDATE Could the CNN announcer's red dress be any more low cut? --lambert]
And while you wait for the festivities to begin, here's the Princeton Economics Department on... the crisis (a term that I hate to use, since it buys into the shock doctrine frame, but I don't have a better one). Krugman, Blinder, et al.
Meanwhile, Hecate has some helpful advice for Obama.
NOTE Video via Krugman.
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Think I'll Clean the Bathtub Instead
McCain is a crazy, lying crackpot who uses "my friends" way too much. Obama is a center-right politician with lousy negotiating skills who would rather reach a shitty deal than look partisan and who, when he talks about policy at all, speaks in word fogs. Neither is capable of leading us through this mess. Neither leads at all.
I don't need to watch Village
Theatre to know any of that. And my prediction is that, like the rest of this incredibly shallow campaign, nobody learns anything about either of these two guys (can't bring myself to call them men) they didn't already know before.
Speaking of cleaning the bathtub, does anyone know how to get the old appliques off. Finally got the drain to the tub fixed (hasn't worked in years, I have a separate shower) and it's time to clean off the icky appliques left over from the last owner.
"Do what you feel in your heart to be right -- for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. " - Eleanor Roosevelt
You might try Isopropyl ( rubbing ) Alcohol or even
Acetone, although I'd suggest you try it on a small out of the way spot to make sure it doesn't react with anything that might still be on the tub's surface.
My wife suggest using mineral oil and then scraping -gently!- with fine steel wool to help get it off. Remember to wash it afterwords, because you really don't want to stand in an oily tub.
p.s. I'm assuming they're in the inside, however the same tricks should work on the outside.
HISTORY, n. An account mostly false, of events mostly unimportant, which are brought about by rulers mostly knaves, and soldiers mostly fools.
(The Devil's Dictionary.com)
Don't try aceton
if the applique is plastic, it will melt it.
Try these links:
http://www.thriftyfun.com/tf001111.tip.html
http://www.friendlyplumber.com/plumbing1...
True, and what I also forgot to mention is when using
chemicals ALWAYS make sure the area is properly ventilated.
HISTORY, n. An account mostly false, of events mostly unimportant, which are brought about by rulers mostly knaves, and soldiers mostly fools.
(The Devil's Dictionary.com)
Although if it's not
it might make watching the rest of the election season easier.
Thanks for the Helpful Advice
I'll let you know what works (because something is going to, this stuff is coming off).
"Do what you feel in your heart to be right -- for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. " - Eleanor Roosevelt
removing appliques from a porcelain tub.
When I moved into this house 18 years ago I faced the same problem. Look on the back of a packet of appliques. There are, or were, instructions for removing them. It involved some very smelly and lethal liquid. You had to make sure the window was open and there was adequate ventilation to use said potion. It was something like carbon tetrachloride. The appliques came right off. And, a few thousand brain cells died.
Hope this helps.
Try vinegar!
I googled vinegar dissolve glue applique and sure enough...
[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Balsamic or a Nice Red Wine Vinegar?
More seriously, thanks to everyone for the tips. I was going to do it tonight, but got sidetracked doing other things. But I will have an applique-free tub by the end of the weekend.
"Do what you feel in your heart to be right -- for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. " - Eleanor Roosevelt
i don't wanna watch either--
got laidoff today--ugh (but got a good severance pkg)
I wonder if they'll talk about Meredith and the riots there?
That sucks amberglow
Although good to hear that you got a somewhat padded landing.
What riots? (I've been tied up all day with workmen)
"Do what you feel in your heart to be right -- for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. " - Eleanor Roosevelt
in 62--Meredith was 1st AA guy to attend and
people died--& Ole Miss is infamous for still being racist--only 20% of the school is minority even today--
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/polit...
i'm surprised about the job thing, but it's a blessing for me really--i really hate being permanent/staff, and prefer being freelance...i've been slowly getting more and more depressed and feeling stuck there lately.
From what I understand there was a full scale riot
facilitated by the local elected authorities and the local media. For days, lawless white mobs with the open sanction of local authorities and local newspapers and radio stations chased, beat and shot at any black person who showed his face, along with whites they deemed sympathetic. They burned and bombed a few businesses and more than a few cars, and even shot at white cops. Sixty federal marshals were injured and President Kennedy had to send in troops.
Trent Lott was a student on that campus then, and I don't have the references now, but I believe he has bragged about taking part in the disturbances a few times over the years.
Bruce Dixon
www.blackagendareport.com
Bruce Dixon
www.blackagendareport.com
totally--
they're trying to use this -- and Obama -- to show how much they've progressed...ugh.
and i've read Obama's people didn't want to have it there at all because they thought it would become about race and racial issues -- and they don't want to have that "conversation" -- unless it's to accuse, of course.
BBCA News had an interview
with an AA student who was there late 60s (he's now a lecturer there) and he said that the white students weren't overtly nasty at that point, but that most of them had little confederate flags they'd pull out and wave whenever they saw and walked by.
Meredith ended up a Repub & worked briefly w/Jesse Helms--
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/talkingameric...
"...After surviving an assassination attempt in 1966, however, he drifted further from the orthodoxy of the civil rights movement. He joined the Republican Party, made several attempts to enter congress and briefly worked for the ultra-conservative Senator Jesse Helms. ..."
Oh, Those Riots
I hadn't made the Ole Miss connection (I've paid very little attention to the debate debate) and I thought you were talking about something in the news. What with the economic crap, I fully expect riots any day. And, yes, I feel stupid.
"Do what you feel in your heart to be right -- for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. " - Eleanor Roosevelt
I'm sorry, amberglow
Bummer.
[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
yeah, but not terrible--
as long as i get a good regular freelance gig within 2 months i'm fine.
it's the kick in the pants i needed in a lot of ways.
I got important stuff to do this evening too.
There's a youngster in jail whom I visit every Friday evening from 9 to 10. That's way more important than anything either of those guys are going to say.
Tell me what candidate is going to address the issue of mass incarceration, and they'll get my vote. I know it won't be brutha O or that clown McCain.
Bruce Dixon
www.blackagendareport.com
Bruce Dixon
www.blackagendareport.com
Excellent Use of Your Time
Although I do think Joe Biden would probably be willing to address mass incarceration. He's for it.
Change you can believe in. (Mental note to self, must figure out who this mythical "you" is and try to knock some sense into him/her.)
"Do what you feel in your heart to be right -- for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. " - Eleanor Roosevelt
cool--my grandpa
visited and gave legal & other help regularly for free to the county prisoners down in FL after he retired--for years and years.
: >
Drinking Game Proposals
A few ideas for those
masochisticbrave souls who are going to watch this thing:1) Drink any time either of them say "tax cut" and you should feel no pain even if this is supposed to be about foreign policy;
2) Drink any time McCain mentions he's a POW (but not when he says "my friends" for fear of alcohol poisoning)
3) Drink any time Barack Obama claims to barely know Ayers and Rezko or to be shocked by the well-known beliefs of long-time friends.
4) Drink any time anyone mentions God, faith, or Jesus Christ.
"Do what you feel in your heart to be right -- for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. " - Eleanor Roosevelt
also "terrorists" , "bin Laden", "victory",
"war on terror", etc ...
it's supposed to be all foreign policy.
My plan is to take a drink everytime
Obama mentions been a Democrat or Democratic party itself or gives any credit to Clinton administration. I will be completely sober by the end of the evening.
you'll be 100% dehydrated by the end--
i bet Obama doesn't mention any of that even once.
I don't mean to kill anyone but...
Take a swig at every mention of partisan gridlock or change.
You are evil!
If anybody plans on doing that, I suggest to have an ambulance on stand by.
already "bipartisan" a few times--
in just the first minutes..
they both suck.
To kill the glue under those appliques, you need lab-grade alco-
hol.
You can get it in the paint remover section of good hardware stores. Failing that try a pharmacy; get 91% isopropyl alcohol, and pour it on from uphill. It may take 2 or 3 applications.
Lab grade alcohol will kill anything. We used it to sterilize our equipment doing IAQ work (and yes, we liberally washed our hands in it at the end of a job. Don't do that if you have open wounds and there's anybody around you don't want to swear in front of.)
We can admit that we're killers ... but we're not going to kill today. That's all it takes! Knowing that we're not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18
I cannot watch these two
just reading. :-)
Uh-Oh
Barry's losing his cool...and he's sound very whiney. I'm a bit surprised, as it was what I expected McCain to do and sound like.
Oh, yeah. McCain looks like a smiley little treasure troll when Obama's speaking. It's hilarious.
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...
Obama's flustered already--
they really both suck.
Classic novice debaters mistake
A slow intro, then you have to rush through the solution. Now he's rushing his numbered points.
Obama needs to use fewer words, not speak more rapidly.
[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Hillary would have kicked ass.
This is beyond boring.
He said (yawn).
He said (yawn).
Thanks for nothing.
A friend just texted me:
John Kerry v. Bob Dole: The Debate.
Edit for spelling.
McCain....
... starts with Kennedy!
If I didn't know McCain has the soul and brain of a lizard, I'd think he seemed genuine, unaffected, and a leader.
[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
How in the hell?
How in the hell is Obama on the defensive on the issue of the economy? This is crazy.
McCain is grinning like a Chesire cat. He obviously loves getting people angry and flustered.
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...
neither of them are good on the economy-
at all.
oo-- the Cheney energy bill!
McCain went there.
McCain's mindf*ck with Obama all week threw Obama off, i bet...and making it so Obama had to go to DC even tho he didn't want to.
enough with numbered lists taken from a stump speech--
he needs to answer the questions.
Lehrer pulls it back
Do they favor the plan?
Obama: "I am optimistic about our ability to come up with a plan."
Now Obama is filibustering about his record!
McCain: "A lot of us saw this train wreck coming." Again, McCain is on top of his weird game. Echoing Churchill, doing that AZ man of the people thing. If only I didn't know he was a shithead.
[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Obama practiced for this debate.
Oh, my poor haid.
ooo-another hit -- on ethanol
hysterical!
Talking Style, here, amberglow.
Not substance. McCain has Obama on the defensive or at least off balanced.
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...
i'm talking style--McCain's getting tons of jabs in--
--it's very stylish, and happens to be on the issues as well.
; >
if Obama really rehearsed for this, he's hopeless.
Flustered much?
Obama just called John Tom.
Obama responds ages after he gets hit--
ages ago he was called the most liberal by McCain, so only now he pulls Coburn out of his ass? it took him that long?
sad.
Lehrer's annoyed with them both already.
Lehrer wants them to talk to each other!!!
Let's you and him fight!
And now McCain is saying the problem is big government..
[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
"Spending Freeze"
Obama had a good comeback on the spending freeze idea by McCain (i.e. hatchet vs. scalpel). Very true.
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...