Warren’s church removes anti-gay statements from website. (Think Progress)
On Friday, AmericaBlog’s John Aravosis pointed out that the website for Rev. Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church explicitly said that “someone unwilling to repent for their homosexual lifestylewould not be accepted as a member at Saddleback”:
[Monday], however, Aravosis notes that the anti-gay language has been pulled from the website. View a Google cache of the original page here.
Barney Frank: ‘I’m suffering from post-partisan depression.’ (Think Progress)
On MSNBC [Monday] afternoon, Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) repeated his criticism of President-elect Obama’s decision to invite Rick Warren to deliver the Inaugural invocation, calling Warren’s views on homosexuality “deeply offensive.” Frank said Obama “overestimates his ability” to “charm” conservative opponents to his side, and joked that he missed the days of partisanship: “…But I’ve worked frankly with Newt Gingrich, Tom Delay, and the current Republican leadership. … When [Obama] talks about being post partisan, having seen these people and knowing what they would do in that situation, I suffer from post partisan depression.”
Click through to watch the video.—Caro
Warren On? Party Off. (by Richard Cohen)
Not that he was planning to attend, but Barack Obama should know that my sister's inauguration night party -- the one for which she was preparing Obama Punch -- has been canceled. The notice went out over the weekend, by e-mail and word of mouth, that Obama's choice of Rick Warren to give the inaugural invocation had simply ruined the party. Warren is anti-gay and my sister, not to put too fine a point on it, is not. She's gay…
Warren is an important evangelical leader with whom, Obama said, "…We can disagree without being disagreeable and then focus on those things that we hold in common as Americans." Sounds nice. But what we do not "hold in common" is the dehumanization of homosexuals. What we do not hold in common is the belief that gays are perverts who have chosen their sexual orientation on some sort of whim. What we do not hold in common is the exaltation of ignorance that has led and will lead to discrimination and violence.
Finally, what we do not hold in common is the categorization of a civil rights issue -- the rights of gays to be treated equally -- as some sort of cranky cultural difference. For that we need moral leadership, which, on this occasion, Obama has failed to provide. For some people, that's nothing to celebrate. The party's off.
Warren to be keynote speaker at MLK commemorative service on the day before inauguration. (Think Progress)
Rev. Rick Warren, who is President-elect’s controversial pick to give the invocation at his inauguration on Jan. 20, will be the keynote speaker at Martin Luther King, Jr. Annual Commemorative Service at the historic Ebenezer Baptist Church on the day before the Inauguration, Atlantic Progressive News reports. Before she passed away, King’s wife, Coretta Scott King, declared that gay marriage was a civil rights issue and denounced a proposed constitutional amendment that would ban it.
Obama Will Use Lincoln Bible (Political Wire)
President-elect Obama will take the oath of office using the same Bible upon which President Lincoln was sworn in at his first inauguration, according to the Inaugural Committee. Though there is no constitutional requirement for the use of a Bible during the swearing-in, Presidents have traditionally used Bibles for the ceremony, choosing a volume with personal or historical significance. President-elect Obama will be the first President sworn in using the Lincoln Bible since its initial use in 1861.
Would Lincoln have had a pro-slavery minister give the invocation at his inaugural?—Caro
Welcome to 'Nepotism Nation' (by Froma Harrop)
In New York state, we are told that Caroline Kennedy is the favorite for Hillary Clinton's soon-to-be-vacated Senate seat, and for the usual reasons of celebrity and money… On ABC's "This Week With George Stephanopoulos," Cokie Roberts explains that "her name and all that is going to work for the Democratic Party in New York, and that's the calculation. ... It's not how great a senator she's going to be." And Stephanopoulos adds, "They want someone else on the ballot with that star power who can raise the money."
Would someone please draw a dark line of distinction between what we call a scandal in Illinois and business as usual in New York? Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich is accused of trying to sell a vacant Senate seat, while New York Gov. Paterson is expected to give a Senate seat to the woman whose family can raise lots of money for his benefit…
How many promising Democrats are being locked out of this dance? Makes Obama's rise seem a total miracle.
Nope, not a miracle at all, Froma. Obama managed to worm his way into the Chicago power structure, primarily by getting himself put into positions where he could hand out cash (e.g., via the Chicago Annenberg Challenge) or broker power (e.g., the Illinois Senate Health & Human Services Committee). Oh, and Michelle’s father didn’t JUST work at the city water plant. He was a Democratic precinct captain, which is no small deal in Chicago. He was connected. The Obamas plotted their rise quite carefully, and used each rung of the ladder as a means to climb to the next level.
And let’s not forget that Cokie Roberts’ own prominence is due to nepotism. Her father was Hale Boggs, a New Orleans congressman (Speaker of the House, as a matter of fact) whose plane was lost in Alaska while campaigning for another member of the House. Boggs’ seat was then taken over by his wife, Marie Corinne Morrison Claiborne “Lindy” Boggs, kin to former New Orleans mayor Chep Morrison and a member of the powerful Claiborne family, after whom a major New Orleans street is named. Cokie has led a pampered life among the elites of New Orleans and Washington, D.C. Why would we expect her to demand that anyone earn an office, rather than obtain it through connections?—Caro
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cool! Nadler wants the senate seat too --
NY-SEN: Nadler's Interested
(they won't give it to him, but all of the other contenders need to be more visible and vocal, given the way it's being "arranged" for Caroline)
I'd like a real debate on the NY Senate seat
Whenever the media says NOW NOW NOW, the results haven't been good.
Only tyrants rig elections.
won't happen --
the only thing that will stop Kennedy getting it is if she refuses to disclose her finances and possible conflicts, etc (which she refused to do at Board of Ed as well)
I don't think it's the media saying NOW NOW NOW
this is much too much fun for them -- budgetary problems? Boring.. The monthlong continued disclosure of details about one of the most famously private people in the country? Now you're talking. The intrigue and quiet maneuverings of other powerful people? That's the ticket!
I think Bloomberg's the only one screaming about making a decision now, because he thinks the process is getting "out of control" as he said. I think he's realizing that he and Kevin Sheekey are losing control of their ability to force Paterson's hand.
Other funny thing that Shelly said today -- he called Sheekey, Bloomberg's "Deputy Mayor of Political Aspirations."
like the term limits thing--Bloomberg wants this
arm-twisting, assigning staff to make it happen, and all the behind-the-scenes promises and threats to simply "work".
now all his behind-the-scenes stuff on her behalf is public, which he hates.
There are so many really good people
for the job, that the whole CK things truly boggles the mind.
But...
Did you hear what Shelly Silver had to say today? He basically said that CK would be Bloomberg's senator -- ouch!
My fluctuating, inner sense of the probability of Paterson choosing her has been going down since her "tour" upstate. Since then she has submitted to the press her views in writing -- written by an aide! And then blundered her response about pledging to support a Democrat for mayor, followed by Bloomies panicked insistence that Paterson make a decision now before things get worse for his candidate.
OTOH, every billionaire should have their own senator -- why should it be any different for Bloomie?
it's brilliant of Silver--one benefit of her had been
that it saves Patterson from having to choose between upstate and downstate, and from angering either side.
If this takes hold (i hope it does), then that gets erased a little. She's no longer outside of the usual state groupings, and her appointment would anger the upstate people like another city/downstate one would.
it's still fixed tho--DC is pressuring (and threatening) Patterson heavily--very heavily--and funding is involved.
great -- Rick Warren vs Don Imus: Obama's Inconsistent Positions
(with Wright too)
from Dissenting Justice -- Rick Warren versus Don Imus: Obama's Inconsistent Positions --
that Cohen piece is excellent --
at least one person in the DC Village
gets it -- and how disgusting that most of them still think of themselves as arbiters of morality, whether it's Clinton and Monica, or Bush's massive crimes, etc ...
This needs to be shouted from the rooftops for the next 4 years --
Finally, what we do not hold in common is the categorization of a civil rights issue -- the rights of gays to be treated equally -- as some sort of cranky cultural difference. ...
typical tho -- bec a relative is affected by it--
Digby on it --
But every once in a while you'll find one who takes the liberal side of one of these issues because their lives are somehow touched by an American with a problem. Every once in a while you'll see a hard core right winger who pushes funding for a particular health initiative because his granddaughter happens to get the disease or a mushmouthed centrist type who rails against police state tactics when his nephew is harassed by the cops.
Today we have Richard Cohen with a column about Rick Warren's anti-gay bigotry, which I feel confident he wouldn't have written were it not for the fact that his much loved sister is gay. ...
Pat Robertson “remarkably pleased with Obama.”
no surprise. : <
Today on CNN -- Rev. Pat Robertson: ‘I am remarkably pleased with Obama…
Ha
I walked in as that came on. Don't see any dominionist fear fests about that one, do we?
Only tyrants rig elections.
Paterson, not Patterson
See?
Only tyrants rig elections.
Etheridge is pathetic on Warren --
Melissa Etheridge Writes About Warren
whoever decided she could ever speak for us (questioning candidates earlier, and now this stuff) should rethink that--seriously.
All the damned gall
Rick Warren has been playing himself as the "touchy/feely" pastor for years, and now he's getting validation by no one less than this nation's next president. Obama is empowering all of the wrong people. Is he really so dumb as to believe that the conservatives will not do to him what they did to Clinton?
I really hope that everyone gets, now, that Obama is just as "faith-based" as his predecessor. I can not take our next president serious when he says that he's serious about reason-based science and health care when he's practically spooning with the likes of Warren.
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...
Warrens says it's "Christ-o-phobia" --
ugh!
he released a video today -- Dan Savage on it: gays suffer from "Christ-o-phobia."
And, Jesus wept
Old Jesus must be spinning in his grave right about now.
Ok, I'll stop being cheeky, now. :)
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...
All this confusion can be resolved...
... as soon as you realize that gays are not fully human, and therefore not worthy of receiving Christ's love, assuming Him to have existed. See how easy?
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi