Sat, 11/01/2008 - 3:21pm — vastleft
There's nothing like faith-based initiatives:
MOGADISHU, Somalia - A 13-year-old girl who said she had been raped was stoned to death in Somalia after being accused of adultery by Islamic militants, a human rights group said.
Dozens of men stoned Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow to death Oct. 27 in a stadium packed with 1,000 spectators in the southern port city of Kismayo, Amnesty International and Somali media reported, citing witnesses. The Islamic militia in charge of Kismayo had accused her of adultery after she reported that three men had raped her, the rights group said.
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Key to this: "Militants"
the real tragedy is they've terrified everyone who might have come forward on behalf of, or rescued, the girl.
Why did her father not intervene?
1 John 4:18
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18
please, explain this one to me, Men. why shouldn't i hate
all of you?
sorry, knee jerking and all that. but seriously: why? why was this necessary? what good did it do? yes, yes, i know women were in the stadium cheering this on. but i know why the women were there.
my question is: why were the men?
if you're a patriarch, if you hate and want to control women, what does this serve? i'd think you'd want to keep raping her, and not stone her to death. the better to invade her uterus, or something. color me confused when it comes to this sort of thing. i just don't get it.
she was seen as 100% damaged goods, cd--
Here's my take--
no one would marry her now, and she brought shame on the whole community because it all came out in public at the court--she dared to accuse a man of rape in public instead of relying on the men in her family to do something about it privately which is how it's supposed to go.
--the no-longer-a-virgin-and-everyone-and-their-brother-knows-it thing was bad enough, but who would want someone like that in their family who violates all the cultural/religious norms that demand women be private and silent, and totally reliant on the men in the family (who effectively own their wives and daughters, and restrict and control their whole lives and often hide them away from the public entirely before passing them off to some guy they probably picked)?
on control--she demonstrated that she wasn't controllable or submissive.
also--the public stoning warns
all the other women watching and who hear of it to behave, i'd say.
bingo
very definitely a warning to all women that they are allowed to live only so long as men decide they can.
there's probably even more to it than that, but i'd have to go bleach my brain if i thought about any of it.
anglachel's post sprang to my mind
right away too--and the posts here--on public/private.
the girl made 2 big private things public--the violation of her, and the absolute freedom/ability/power of men to do what they like with/to women.
Pour encourager les autres
That was the "good" of it, CD.
Assuming Jesus to have been a historical figure, John 8 is directly on point. "And they all went away, beginning with the eldest."
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Somalia, the libertarian paradise
'Nuff said...
...for the rest of us
...for the rest of us
So True
When was the last time any government held the whole of the country? That said, Saudi Arabia, just on the other side of the sea, has a terribly strong government and tons of modern infrastructure, and it easily ranks with Somalia as one of the most backwards regimes on the planet.
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...
In a stadium with a thousand spectators
I once stood in the Roman Coliseum, thinking: although such horrors do not happen today, I must remember this place always and remember that humans still have the same capacity for evil today.
But I never dreamed there could be, in my lifetime, an even worse horror in a large stadium.
Each time I think I've come to grips with man's capacity for evil, I find again I've underestimated it.
This stadium atrocity has always haunted me
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.ht...
Another reason to remember September 11th (1973):
In the days after the American-supported coup, about 10,000 people were rounded up and brought to the soccer stadium, which has a stunning view of the Andes as a backdrop. There they were beaten and tortured by soldiers, with some even being executed on the field with machine guns as the remaining detainees watched from the stands.