Republican National Convention

Open thread on the Republican National Convention -- tonight being Sarah Palin's night (and I have to say that any move by McCain that sucks all the oxygen out of the room except for "Sarah Palin!?!" has to be smart, right?*)

Gimme a glazed!

Also, I have yet to see any of the staunch defenders of McCain step forward. Yet surely this is the perfect context?

And last night, I mistakenly placed the convention in Minneapolis, not St. Paul. I guess all the commenters were Minnesota nice, because not one called me on it. Oopsie.

NOTE * It's like the old saying about how a project becomes late: One day at a time. Well, 4 days of the 67, is it, have gone to Sarah Palin. Well done, all.

UPDATE 9:15PM EDT Seamus's owner!

But early. This, sadly or not, is the first time I've seen the long-playing version of the Mittster. "America cannot lead the family of nations if we fail the families here at home." As clear a statement of the relation between patriarchy and the empire would be hard to find. And his hair is terrible. He reminds me of a bad motivational speaker. Oh, wait. He's hitting all the buttons, too. Utterly shameles. "We will never allow America to retreat in the face of evil extremism." "Never been a day when I wasn't proud to be an American." The Mittster throwing red meat is such a bizarre spectacle. He's really no good at it, they're just bullet points like any other to him, but the crowd is fired up!

Governor of Hawaii is making a pretty good speech, but the crowd isn't doing its job with the cheering at all: It's thin.

It's very generous of CSPAN to just glance at the empty seats, as opposed to focusing on them.

10:15PM EDT Rudy! I think I'll have a glass of wine to get ready. "I'm sorry Barack Obama doesn't feel her home town is [pause] cosmopolitan enough." Ouch.

11:00 PM EDT Sarah Palin!! Crowd goes nuts. (And the camera keeps focusing on the same cute family. Who the heck are they? The Palins? ) Wow. Barracuda is right. "Bristol, Willow, Piper." Class markers, I'm tellin ya. And now the baby boy. Jeebus. "Our family has the same challenges and the same joys." "You will have an advocate in the White House" -- to families with special needs children. "5 years later, he's still my guy."

She's killing 'em. Watch out, Joe Biden.

Now the Republicans are waving signs to Sly and the Family Stone's Everyday People. Just shoot me. Not that the distinction between C and R matters any more in a post-partisan era.

Comments

tonight is a night to watch--

for the insane commentary alone--let alone her speech.

I wonder if she'll attack at all?

Hey Amberglow

Did I used to see you on talkleft?
It has turned into yet another sight I feel icky visiting.
Where else do you visit? Do you have a blog?

Hillary Clinton, The Man of My Dreams

nope--i only read TL

never a member there--no active blog at all--i'm too lazy to regularly post anywhere anymore...

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Palin has at least one good line tonight--

"... In an unmistakable jab at Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, she said, "I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a `community organizer,' except that you have actual responsibilities." ..." -- http://www.newser.com/article/d92vhqi02/...

She Also Attacks the Media

"Here's little news flash for all those reporters and commentators: I'm not going to Washington to seek their good opinion _ I'm going to Washington to serve the people of this country."

That's smart. I think Americans hate the media as much if not more than they hate Congress, the President and Washington.

Speaking of media, what is with these AP reports that are written as if she's already spoken when she hasn't? They did the same thing last week.

Campaigns release advance copy/excerpts of a speech

so AP can write it up and get it distributed to their subscriber papers before deadline. The past tense is used so it will make temporal sense when read in tomorrow morning's edition.

That I Get

but it's weird when they post it on the internet where it's available before she speaks and is written in the past tense.

she just said it--it's a hit.

she'll be using that on the trail.

Fiorina really wanted to be VP, i think--

or head of the Fed maybe?

(she was a lousy HP head tho)

Mittens is up now

he's such a car salesman--and his hair is greasy.

"It's liberals!"

[cheers]

"Sarah Palin is a slut!"

[cheers, hurling Cheetohs]

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all red meat to wake them up--

and this stuff was old when Reagan was spouting it.

"Drill Baby Drill"

Damn, the Maryland delegation went complete bat-shit crazy with chants when Michael Steele hit the stage. The convention crowd was the most excited I've seen it when he got done. He had them chanting "Drill, Baby. Drill." It was bizarre.

Mitt is all over the place.

Oh, My God. They Are Chanting "USA!", Again.

They are asking me to vote for Barack Obama. How could anyone even make a case that these nuts derserve any elected office?

Really, they don't deserve McCain, to be honest.

Now, Huckabee's up next, and he will almost surely out-crazy Romney.

The Dems wrap themselves in patriotism too

There are plenty of reasons to get angry at the RNC convention, I'm sure (not watching myself), but patriotism is an equal opportunity offender. Been to many Dem events where Patriosterone (testosteronated patriotism)is a bit over the top. I don't mind people having pride in their country, but Parties--both of 'em--substitute the word "patriotism" for strong policies.

hahahaha Mitt the mortgage crisis was

LIBERALS!!!! Give Mitt an academy award for keeping a straight face on that one.

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Huckabee

he's always good.

media tackier than costume change

at a Madonna concert

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that lava soap thing was good too

he needs a talkshow or something.

Equate

The fact of the matter is that the chanting of "USA" is about as base as you can get. That the Dems do it, too, is not an excuse for how much more of it they do in the Republican Party. I'm a proud American, but unlike many Republicans, my patriotism doesn't spring forth from an underlying current of nativism.

Chanting "USA"

has driven me NUTS since it started showing up at the Olympics.

Can anybody explain to me WHY the people of this country are so fucking defensive?

Huck

Huck hit an interesting line:

"I'm not a Republican because I grew up rich. I'm a Republican because I didn't want to be for the rest of my life waiting for the government to rescue me."

EDIT: "Sarah Palin got more votes running for the mayor of Wasila, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for President of the United States."

BURN

oo--good dig at Biden

very good!

this is why he'd have been a good vp choice--

he tells a good folksy anecdote like no one else.

I like Huck

...I can't help it. ;) I think he should've been a democrat. I also think the GOP treats him like an ugly stepchild because he's the real deal and couldn't shake his lower class roots if he tried -- just like Bubba in that regard.

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me too--but

way too much religion in his views and actions.

Oh definitely but I'm kinda

...inoculated to that. I think Huck's much less likely to implement things than most ppl think. Baptists are weird and Huck seems to come from the older school (they declared a firm separation of church and state years ago). For many Baptists, instituting anything that remotely seems like a religious law would be offensive in the extreme. So while I think Huck panders to the RRs I don't think it's what it seems. JMO. He's still a republican though.

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all the ones i see on tv and in Congress

aren't into separation at all.

noun-verb-9/11 is next

my ex-mayor----ugh!

lol

Any bets on the number of times he'll say it?

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including variations?

i say 5-10 times.

I'll go

3-5 but only cuz you called the good ones. As long as no one makes it a drinking game we should be fine.

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i'm including things like

"that fateful day in September" and stuff like that.

Rudy relishes being an asshole

--it's his natural state.

he's not gonna say it at all

boo!

Gotcha!

Psyche!

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oops--said it once

is that it?

Does Al Q count?

...it's a stretch but he's not done.

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nope--has to include

either the date or mention the attacks directly.

:( We're both gonna lose

Rudy's pwned us. lol.

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yup--no biggie--

he makes millions giving speeches and "Security advice" every day so he says it more than enough anyway.

CNN just flashed on our skyline--asses!

that's just nasty.

D'Amato and his puppet Pataki

are there too--ugh--all our GOP asses.

Goddamn, aren't they dead or in prison yet?

Why, Lord, WHY?

Hawaii Governor Lingle

Has the crowd chanting "Zero" as to the amount of executive experience Joe Biden and Barack Obama, has. The GOP sure loves to chant.

Lingle keeps tearing at Joe Biden like crazy. It almost seems personal. lol

Biden is a tool

--i don't think anyone likes him anywhere--only media bookers for Meet the Press.

oh-- Bristol and Levi--

america's new sweethearts?

; >

On Spoting the Michigan Delegation in the Audience

Look for the red, white, and blue hockey jerseys in support of Palin as a hockey mom. It's a very creative (if even cheezy) choice to get spotted.

Also, when Palin comes on they'll be chanting, "Let's Go, Palin." A play on "Let's Go, Red Wings."

Hey, it's not as tacky as the Texas delegations cowboy hates. ;)

i think TX is dressing the same every day too--

i hate it--

i had an aunt and uncle who wore matching outfits--it was disgusting.

Baptist Scare Me To No End

And, if I'm going to be honest, I don't trust them. Hope I'm not offending. The fundamentalists are definitely seperatists, but they are the same ones you can most expect to try and change government to fit Biblical rules, too, when they are elected to public office. It's something you don't have to worry about with say, Catholics. Maybe it's a cultural thing. Being from up north, the Baptist plurality pretty much stops when it hits the Ohio River, and I'd like to keep it that way.

Southern white ones scare me--

they're the ones who do change our laws and schools and stuff--all the time.

hehe I don't blame you

...but there are over 100+ varieties of Baptist. A lot more diversity than most ppl realize. Fundies scare me too but not all Baptists are creepy fundies.

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Southern Baptists

It's a real denominational difference, as I understand it, not just a regional name.

Ordinary Baptists such as I've met up north are just garden variety Protestants with good hymns. :-)

I don't buy any of it, but the Southern Baptist Convention, or whatever it's called, is the bunch that's caused most of the trouble politically.

I welcome correction from people who know more, but that's how I've understood it.

Absolutely denominational differences

...and I wasn't kidding about the over 100+ denominations of Baptists. Not only is there a difference between Southern Baptists (as in those that are a part of the Southern Baptist Convention or SBC) and Northern Baptists but also between "Southern" Baptists (denominations in the South) and Southern Baptists (SBC). Also, Baptists have a doctrine that pretty much puts everything on the believer. IOW, you as a Baptist are the absolute arbiter of what you believe to be sin and/or wrong.

Another thing is that even within the SBC each individual Church is autonomous and can do as it pleases. It really doesn't matter what anyone claiming to be a 'representative' says. They're completely full of it and have no authority over churches and churches have no authority over believers. Most of the TV talking heads aren't even Baptists but Evangelicals or Pentecostals. Pat Robertson and Falwell (IIRC) were Pentecostals then switched and switched again. Robertson isn't Baptist but I think Falwell may have stayed with the claim.

For a while, the Evangelicals systematically tried to take over as many Baptist Churches as they could and there are some newer preachers who are trying to bind the denominations closer together but the truth is that you almost have to judge Baptists at the individual church level because there is that much structural freedom within each variety of Baptist and diversity of opinion. Any given Baptist church can change focus drastically with the change of ministers.

What the 'representatives' of the religious right have done is convinced the media that they speak for a multitude when they don't. That preachers won't usually criticize other preachers unless it is a very direct matter gives them cover to exaggerate their sway.

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oo--that was good

get that vp thing in writing!

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Zing!

Biden better get the VP in writing!

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"cling" too

Rudy's good at attacking--that and being a little dictator.

I had no idea

...he was such a hitman. He's throwing them out. He just wooed. lol.

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he totally is--

we lived thru it here for years--for way way too long.

Judi (the 3rd Mrs. Giuliani so far) is drunk or something--

she's not even paying attention.

the Palin kids are all goodlooking--

the Edwards kids were too.

"Call John McCain"

Guiliani's jack-assery is warming on me.

he's absolutely right about the questions--

1000% right.

BTW, Hillary would beat Palin in a theoretical match-up

Woman President: Clinton vs. Palin 52% to 41%

EDIT: I can't believe that Giuliani is left sticking up for women: "How dare they."

you know it's all insane when he's the feminist--

truly.

The man who annulled his first wife's marriage (since they were

cousins, of course), and didn't let his second wife know he was divorcing her until the press made him, who took pizza and van lapdances from his press secretary and has now settled down with a dog stapler -- HE'S THE FEMINIST?

Not even in drag do I believe him.

the husband's hot--

totally.

No kidding!!

So's the boyfriend-- er, fiance.

I simply cannot tolerate the sight of Giuliani.

I've said on more than one occasion that I'm sorry Giuliani left the race as early as he did because I relished the pure entertainment value when "America's Mayor" showed himself to be the sputtering, lisping, red-faced bully that he is. I couldn't wait for him to be asked questions he didn't want to answer by the national press, have him respond by questioning the intelligence of the questioner, and then watch the resulting blow-up be played over and over again for a national audience.

It is proving impossible, however, for me to watch more than 15 seconds of his speech. I just can't. And Mitt Romney looks like a giant puppet. There is an unreality to him that makes him look like one of those animated movies with real actors digitally altered to look as though it was created using CGI. He's just creepy. (And in the ghoul-fest that is the RNC, that's saying something.)

Ectoplasmic?

Is that the word for Romney?

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

Romney looks like Thunderbirds

--i think.

Giuliani's just a bully--but he bites as much as he barks--a very dangerous guy in reality.

if he was the GOP nominee they would have already been totally racist against Obama--no question.

Giuliani is Nosferatu--

very nightmare-giving.

Well, Palin Got That Out of the Way.

She just accepted the nomination right up front, dispelling the silly rumor she'd drop right out before being nominated.

her army kid is cute too-

-they're a camera-ready family.

Piper, The youngest daughter...

Is a real ham, you can tell. The other children are all visibly uncomfortable. Piper's eating it up.

totally--

but it's cute on tv : >

oh-very good--the special needs thing

excellent.

he's gonna be a househusband

i hear.

oo--another good one-

the hockey mom/pitbull lipstick line.

Barracuda

Watch out, Ds.

No matter what we say on policy, she's going to overwhelm it. Watch out. And that, children, is why the haka on the A list. It's not that she's bad. It's that she's good. Duh.

"What's the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull?"

"Lipstick."

"I guess a small town mayor is sort of like a community organizer... Except you have actual responsbilities." And now, "bitter cling to." Burn!

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

she's excellent--

Biden better watch himself.

This is what populism sounds like

Too bad Obama never figured that out; this is better, rhetorically, than Obama's speech.

Of course, she is a loon. There is that.

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

But so was Huey Long, but he was a hell of a populist.

A populist at the right time but with the wrong priorities can rule a nation.

That's why they destroyed Bill's mandate as much as they could; that's why Gore was so stiff about claiming it; that's why Hillary didn't get it until she embraced it.

And now Obama just let Palin take it.

I can't curse him, because I'm just too sad. Will he pay attention *now* to what red meat Dems need? We're anemic, out here, throw us a fricking bone....

why is she a loon?

this whole primary/election thing has turned my world upside down. everything i thought was true and awkwardlly right with the best of intentions is now shouting crazy hate. cheerleading and screaming arguments that are rabid and hypocrital. i don't know where to go.
i watched Sarah Palin and liked her fight. But I still feel lost.
I miss Hillary.

Hillary Clinton, The Man of My Dreams

She's Killing

She's loving this WAY too much. Watch out, Dems. Yeah, for serious and for true.

no! did she really put the jet on ebay?

really?

Yes, she did

And now got rid of the governor's personal chef.

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

"That Luxury Jet?"

"Yeah, over the top. *pause* I put that on Ebay."

Commenting on Alaska's governor's jet. The timing and phrasing? Perfect.

BTW, she really needs to quit with the "I was against the Bridge to Nowhere." Yeah, she was for it before she was against it. That's one of the easier myths to debunk, and she'd be stupid to keep on with that one.

i'm ready to vote Hillary/Sarah

at this point.

It's better than the options we have now.

This speech is a great litmus test for tomorrows coverage

Anybody who says that rhetorically it's bad is just FITH, consumed by the need to spin, and to be trusted as much as the rest of the press.

Although, she is a loon. (She's loose with the facts on the bridge to nowhere though -- IIRC Somerby called her on it.)

She just made drilling seem plausible...

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

i wonder--

will they still trash her, or change their collective take altogether?

They'll turn the knobs up to 11

because that's what Obama wants.

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I don't think she is a loon

She's somebody who holds a whole lot of views I don't agree with, but that doesn't make her a loon.

I was amazed she used the "Bridge to nowhere" line again tonight, and it makes me wonder what her defense of it is, something I'm sure we'll get to hear in her first interview. She's presumably at this point prepared to defend her characterization of it, and I'll be very interested to hear her defense of her statements.

But she's just not a loon. We're not used to people with her views *not* going on crusades to impose them on the rest of us, which she simply hasn't done, as far as I've been able to find out.

Most of the scary quotes that keep getting repeated come from brief written answers to a single questionnaire she filled out when she ran for governor, the stuff about creationism and abortion. But as far as I can find out, she's never crusaded on those issues at all, never mind taken any action to have legislation introduced or anything of the sort.

For now, at least, she simply doesn't fit the mold of what we're used to, so she's hard to figure out.

did you see that button?

"hoosiers for the hot chick--mccain/palin"

cnn just flashed on it.

On Sarah and ANWAR

If McCain/Palin wins, ANWR is done for. She's crazy-serious when she talks about drilling it.

it's done for no matter who wins--

you think Congress would stop any drilling? They already caved.

oo-the styrofoam greek columns!

lol!

very good.

Ouch! Ouch! Ouch!

"... when those styrofom Greek columns are hauled back to some studio lot..."

Who the heck wrote the speech? Not Nooners -- which is probably why Nooners was dissing her.

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

Rove? Huckabee?

someone good with comebacks--clearly.

*flashing to Angela Lansbury, yo*

... the most stirring speech ever written....

(No Palin Golf, please, she considers that decadent)

um, she just lost me at

"Al Qaeda terrorists are plotting to attack America . . . and he's worried that someone won't read them their rights."

Hey Sarah - that's so that we have a leg to stand on when our soldiers are tortured.

But she certainly is going strong. . . .

She never had me

But that doens't mean the speech isn't brilliant.

Barracuda. And poor Intranets thinks a YouTube of talking heads dissing her is going to do anything but make his guy look dumb and the OFB look even dumber.

And the worst is, that Obama can't crank up the populism because he's not any good at it. Biden better start hitting hard and fast. And not at her, but at what the Republicans in general have done -- because her policies, not in sight here, really are lunatic.

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

The Brilliance of the Palin Pick

She can pummel Obama all she wants, he can't fight back without people realizing he's attacking a vice presidential appointee. Any time he takes her head on, you bring an unflattering comparison of the bottom of the GOP ticket, and the top of the Dem ticket.

BTW, on the superficial, her accent is so much like here in Michigan. Feels like home.

yup--an attack pitbull in lipstick w/family in tow--

it's very very effective.

oh--she's running long now--past 11--

are all the local stations staying with her?

I actually do like the simplicity of the Repub stage setting--

Design choice? Or cost containment?

they didn't know who would be nominee

so didn't make it specific, i heard.

McCain's like the grandpa

of all of them--it works.

Matthews-She's a torpedo/an alternative to the Obamas

--a cultural alternative--

they're not raving at all, and Olbermann is being a jerk.

but then-women don't give Matthews "shivers up the leg"

like Dubya and Obama do.

ugh.

"norma rae by way of tracy flick" -- olbermann

ugh, again...i'm changing the channel.

CNN has no commentary at all yet?

wtf?

ah--Blitzer-"a star has been born"

surprising.

Thing is Kos and the attack dogs

...are the ones that made her a star. They should've treated her the way McCain did Biden but no...

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Blitzer-"grandslam"

--he's loving her. i think the attacks on the media got to him.

oh--Gergen says like Ann Richards

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"not your daddy's culture war" --that Castellanos jerk

on CNN.

They should have treated her like Hillary did

Hillary's statement:

“We should all be proud of Governor Sarah Palin's historic nomination, and I congratulate her and Senator McCain," Clinton, the first woman to win a presidential primary, said in the statement. "While their policies would take America in the wrong direction, Governor Palin will add an important new voice to the debate.”

Very polite and calm. And then, at some point in the not too distant future, the Mama Barracuda would have eviscerated the cute little baby Barracuda.

Instead, we the boiz demanding a womb inspection for a 17-year-old girl.

Unbelievable.

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they're not that smart--

as we see tonight--picking Palin was smart.

Hillary is smart.

Obama/Biden/supporters screaming = not smart.

Very true

All the way around. I can't believe how ashamed some of the boiz have made me of the party.

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Dems misunderestimate her

at their peril.

Brilliant speech, very appealing. Batshit insane, policy wise. But she's very, very appealing. And funny too.

Dayam her digs at Obama were good.

Loved the littlest daughter licking her palm to smooth the hair on baby Trig's head.

i know--that hair thing, like it was a dolly.

just adorable : >

Wow, better than I thought

...and I'm glad she didn't fold like they thought. It's bad for Obama (that she's good) but good for women in politics.

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the GOP will put forward a woman pres way before us--

i've always thought so.

after the treatment of Hillary, there isn't even anyone who will want to run now.

Maybe but I'm looking forward

...to Clinton v. Palin. I think Hil' would whip her but what a race it would be! No matter what, our country would be forever changed for the good. IMO our country learns to accept women and/or minorities by *seeing* them do the job. Before seeing it, we limit our imaginations and ridicule the thought.

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they won't ever let Hillary have it--

swear to God. They never ever ever will--whether they win or lose this time.

I sincerely hope you're wrong

Next time, there won't be supers to take it away. I think women will make sure of that. Too many Clinton supporters were caught off guard but never again.

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i hope too, but if the DC Dems don't want someone,

that person doesn't get it...it's always been the case.

Bingo!

Bingo, bingo, bingo!

Gotta see if first before you can imagine it.

I never had any aspirations to be a professional athlete when I was a kid because it never even occurred to me it was in any kind of realm of possibility.

That's what so many people don't get about Affirmative Action programs, Title IX, etc.

And it's the only good thing to come of Obama's nomination, IMHO.

dare I?

Take a trip to Cheetoh-ville, and see what the OFB is screeching about now?

On the one hand, I'm worried about this election, tonight more than ever. On the other, I feel a sense of Schadenfreude. Which I guess is German for joie de vivre, or something.

Dare, by all means!

Bring back screen shots!

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

don't give him the hits--

seriously.

That's why screen shots

Evidence for the record, but no hits. Or a link with a DCOW next to it.

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This Woman Is Dangerous

that's my take away. I had earlier speculated she was Quayle, the last right-wing "future of the party" VP nominee, only with the brains and toughness to back it up. She's wrong on everything and awful, but boy was she confident and good as she lied to the American public and tried to gloss over her dangerous ideas.

The GOP base clearly loves her. They were energetic and happy in that hall. That's a first this week from what I've read.

Forget WWTSBQ, if she keeps bringing this game, we're going to be seeing a helluva lot more of Sarah Palin. Unfortunately.

Although I still need to see what she does in a debate or at press conferences to be sure about her being the next big right-wing menace to America. You can give great speeches, but still suck at answering questions. Obama proves that.

Having said all of that about her, let me express my hatred for David Brooks, who actually called Palin's speech "wonky" on Iran and oil. No wonder they fucking hate Hillary Clinton, she actually is wonky and these guys think a deep policy discussion is two lines in a convention speech. They hate Hillary because she's smarter than they are. By a lot.

they always trashed Bill's speeches--always--

they're fools, and are not listened to but reacted against nowadays for the most part.

David Brooks?!

Got a link on that? There have to be other gems in that statement.

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No Link (I Was Watching) and Brooks Didn't Trash the Speech

He loved it. Not only did he praise it, but he was smiling.

Mark Shields needs to retire, btw. While he at least called Palin out on her bridge to nowhere bullshit, he doesn't have much fight in him. He said that her comments about being mayor vs. community organizer were belittling to Obama. Well, duh, Mark that's what political opponents do to one another. A much better comeback, as my BF pointed out, would've been to say she was belittling the work a lot of people do all across America. She was belittling Americans. That's bad, Mark. Belittling her opponent, kind of expected.

Bah. What can I say, the only part of her speech I agreed with was when she said the Village only likes people from the Village. Then she had to go and ruin it by claiming McCain isn't part of the Village.

She loses me on the batshit Repub policy

but when Palin was talking about her family, and interacting with them, it was pretty spectacular political tv.

They come across as real people. Unrehearsed, spontaneous. It was killing me to see her hunky hubby holding the baby, and when he lifted up his tiny hand so he could "wave" at the audience, I nearly lost it.

Mike Gravel is right--there's something powerful about Palin. If only she weren't spewing all the Repub red meat.

was it the Reagan ppl who

always said that what they said never mattered--it was the pictures on tv that spoke the most?

if so, they win.

Yup

they said that about a critical article when the reporter tried to apologize for it being hard on Reagan.

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they *are* real people

unlike almost anybody else mccain could have picked.

The Daughter Playing With The Baby's Hair?

Adorable. She has a very nice looking family and I thought the teenagers looked just uncomfortable enough, but not like they were being exploited, to be charming. The little girl is a ham.

Too bad their mother is to the right of Attila the Hun (to paraphrase Echidne).

oh! Campbell Brown likes her now!

after going off all week, too.

Saw that

WTF?

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smacking the media always works--for a while

at least--it's like a bad puppy--you hit them and for a while they behave.

Campbell Brown is so onboard now w/Palin--

she was smacked by the GOP the hardest, and made CNN lose McCain--he canceled Larry King because of her.

OMG Toobin's doing a 180 too

He's saying it was better than Biden's! lol.

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he's right about factchecking too--