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Rs plan to turn Medicare into ObamaCare

It's almost like both legacy parties are working together toward the same goals, or sumpin. Dan Milbank on the Senate R plan:

All the details aren’t out, but Paul says his plan would cut funding of Medicare by $1?trillion over 10 years and reduce Medicare’s liabilities by $16 trillion. It would do that by enrolling Medicare recipients in the health plan now used by federal workers. The government would pay 75 percent of the insurance premium on average but 30 percent or less for those who earned more than $100,000 a year. The eligibility age would gradually be raised to 70 from 65. If seniors can’t afford their share of the premium, they can apply for Medicaid, the health program for the poor. ...

At Thursday’s news conference, Jonathan Weisman of the New York Times pointed out that the lawmakers were proposing to do with Medicare almost exactly what President Obama’s reforms do for non-retirees: Direct them into private insurance with a subsidy for those who need it most.

Well, that lets the cat out of the bag, doesn't it?

Paul was flummoxed. “Uh, anybody want to comment on that?” he asked, producing laughter in the Senate TV studio.

DeMint gave it a try. “Medicare’s already set up as a government program, so we’re beginning to privatize with this idea,” he said. He said his plan takes Medicare recipients “out from under that manipulative umbrella of the Democratic Party.”

With each answer, the senators seemed in danger of sparking an all-out Mediscare in the populace. No, seniors could not opt to keep Medicare as it now exists. Yes, this would sharply increase insurance costs for federal workers.

DeMint’s justification: Medicare will soon be dead anyway. “It is not going to be there in five or 10 years if we don’t do anything,” he reasoned.

True, Medicare is in trouble. But is killing it before it dies the best solution? “Trust me, it’s a good deal,” Graham assured the public. “We designed it. I can assure you, you will like it.”

Oh, sure. I trust Graham exactly as much as I trust Obama. ObamaCare was written by the Heritage Foundation and first enacted by Mitt Romney. Now it sounds like the same Heritage Foundation plan is going to kill a bunch of old people so the health insurance companies can stay alive. Yay!

NOTE Hat tip Truth Partisan.

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Submitted by DCblogger on

that rather than a first step to Medicare for All the health whatever reform was the first step to Medicare for none. Thanks progressives.

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Submitted by coyotecreek on

And you don't have any control over the premiums - which, I assume will still be the case when they privatize it. Every month you will just get your premium deducted from your SS check - and if there's nothing left, too bad.

(As I've noted many times before, my husband and I are currently paying $600/month in Medicare premiums plus another $300 for a supplemental plan - so please, don't think these premiums are insignificant...that total is more than we paid for a family of 4 under a private plans when our kids were still at home. Under the new plan I guess we can expect that number to double if they subsidize 30% or less on gross incomes over $100,000.)

Yes siree. It's a great country we live in.

Submitted by jawbone on

If seniors can’t afford their share of the premium, they can apply for Medicaid, the health program for the poor. ...

Currently, getting any assitance means being extremely poor. This will not end well.

Seniors will just die, because they won't be able to afford the co-pays, the deductibles, even if they can pay the premiums.

This is the Hurry Up and Die solution to medical costs for the elderly.

Screw Obama and the Dems he rolled and co-opted.

But it will begin to depopulate the US. Who needs those mooching elderly anyway? And Medicaid? Oh, yeah, that'll work. Witness how messed up it's getting now under Obama and the RepubliDems, all influenced by the Kleptocratic Corporatists.

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Submitted by twig on

timers who won't be around to collect their Social Security! It would be much more humane to just take us out somewhere and let a firing squad do it. But clearly the PTB aren't concerned about anyone's suffering, as long as it's not them.

Medicaid is a fucking joke. My niece has been on Medicaid. The doctor has a strict rule -- you cannot ask more than two questions. If you try to ask more, he leaves the room. Seriously. Okay, that's not fair because some docs are probably much better. But if you're stuck in a small town with one or two docs who accept Medicaid and you need some information, what do you do?

Plus, as I've mentioned before, her eligibility keeps changing (for unknown reasons), so she'll start a treatment and then they take away Medicaid and she has to stop. She's in her 30s, with a long list of health issues that are not being addressed, all because she has no money. I will be astounded if she makes it to 50.

Submitted by jawbone on

That is a very scary thought. Should Obama be reelected, which this Ryan/Wyden scary plan may actually help happen, he then has not only no reelection to temper his actions, but he is given even more space to more rightward and move the Overton window that way and nail it in place.

With this Ryan?/Wyden shit in the political air, Obama can claim that he's being a good steward by just raising the age for Medicare, increasing costs to recipients, and lowering coverage allowed under supplemental plans. All to force the elderly to ration their health care for themselves, as most insurance co-pays, deductibles force those under 65 who have insurance (unless they get the CEO-type coverage) to ration their care.

Currently, I'm getting physical therapy as an attempt to avoid surgery on my back. I could not afford PT on my insurance as I could not possibly cover $90 per week of co-pays.

That is one objective of the Ryan/Wyden planL: lower use of health care by not only the elderly, but everyone.

The other is to, obviously, kill Medicare dead. Then Medicaid will have ever more applicants, the states will be unable to cover all of them, and, finally, depopulation! Whoohoooo!

Where, oh where, are the ice floes when we really need them?

Where are the Soylent Green factories when we will need them?

Like 2015?