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Claim we're getting too much of it, especially the old and disabled people.
That must be why our health outcomes are lagging behind most other industrialized nations. Too much of a good thing!
... keep the heat on!
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Per capita health care spending (2007):
United States: $7290
Switzerland: $4417
France: $3601
United Kingdom: $2992
Average of OECD developed nations: $2964
Italy: $2686
Japan: $2581
-- Bob Somerby
The text of HR676 (Medicare For All) as PDF (30 pages). The FAQ. Compare HR3200 with HR676.
Medicare for All would save $350 billion a year (study in New England Journal of Medicine).
In 2003, a young Illinois state senator named Barack Obama told an AFL-CIO meeting, "I am a proponent of a single-payer universal healthcare program*." -- Bill Moyers.
* Medicare For All.
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The origin of the term is obscure; everyone talks about the duck pit, but nobody ever says where it is, what it is, or how the people destined for it will get there. Believed to be a Babylon 5 reference, however. Usage example: Aux duck pits, citoyens I found this at Orcinus: "Some liberal commenters, for instance, on certain threads I read have devised, satirically, a "duck pit" into which all conservative minions will be cast on the day of liberal reckoning, there to be nibbled to death by a thousand hungry ducks." If I remember correctly, it originated in comments at Atrios, as a response to violent threats by Right Wing trolls. Sometimes sillines and absurdity are are a good antidote for hatred.
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I will never understand this attitude
The idea is that people would rather go get medical treatment than, say, play golf or go to the speedway. That's the moral hazard, here. Do you know anybody who wants to spend more time in the doctor's office or the hospital than necessary? I don't. See this New Yorker article, by "nudge" maven Malcolm Gladwell, of all people.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
He doesn't actually believe that; he just thinks voters will
Nobody really believes it. But it works as a cover for denying funding and care to the poor, which---basically---he hates. He's a creepy guy and has been for a long time.
Elliot Lake
They do believe it
"Let them eat cakes" is where Samuelson took his ideas from. Once they get theirs, we should live a frugal life. The increase in cost of health is, of course, you and me requiring chemotherapy when we need it. It's the result of all those poor people who couldn't afford radicchio and arugula and therefore got hypertension.
The insurance companies and their CEOs who make $200,000 to $500,000 a day are just doing their job.
Samuelson, "moderate democrats" and the GOP funny farm are trying to train the horse not to eat, unfortunately, the horse and the patient die. But that is just an unfortunate development.
KoshemBos
That one never gets old.
because it really has nothing to do with how hospitals and doctors are paid by insurance companies or anything... oh wait, it totally does.
I also like the "negotiate with your doctor on cost" approach. Yeah, anyone tried that in the real world? Your doctor will never know what the cost associated with your treatment is because it is different for every insurance company. And will ALWAYS tell you not to worry about the cost, to worry about getting better.
I would have thought when
I would have thought when people saw Sicko it would have been an eye opener into our health care system but the problem is there are to many people who have it that can care less about anyone who doesn't. Thankfully I don't get sick often and try and stay healthy exercise etc. Even more so since NY has a program called Healthy NY for people who meet the requirements and aren't covered through their jobs I can pay and get health care at an affordable price through a local HMO. The state does what it can for us they have HEAP where you can apply and get your oil bill paid once a year and a weatherization program to have your house insulated etc. It seems the closer you get to local government the more in touch it is with it's people. I know quite a few people from NYC who needed depression counseling after the WTC's went down and they were fortunate to have that covered by yet again NYS.