She's just going to scare the old folks to death.
Via Big Tent Democrat:
Really bringing the stupid - the new leader of the idiots - Sarah Palin:
As more Americans delve into the disturbing details of the nationalized health care plan that the current administration is rushing through Congress, our collective jaw is dropping, and we’re saying not just no, but hell no!
. . . The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s “death panel” so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their “level of productivity in society,” whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.
These people have the "collective" brain of a 4 year old. And I bet he was glad to get rid of it.
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This is making the rounds on the Internets
If legitimately sourced, it's the kind of thing I wish criticism of Palin had centered on, her penchant for spreading right wing bullshit.
I wasn't sure, though, whether the Facebook page where the quote is sourced from is legit -- does anyone have corroborating info?
Hmmm...
Not from BTD's page. Hope I didn't jump the gun.
Medicare for All is Civil Rights
My guess is that it's legit, but...
... if an awful quote from someone I like came from a Facebook page, I'd want to make sure. Ideally, we can apply the same standards to those we seek to shame.
Well, should I delete it, until it's been verified?
What do you think?
Medicare for All is Civil Rights
Again, I think it's probably legit
There are almost 700,000 "supporters" of the page, and it has the name "http://www.facebook.com/sarahpalin" -- which probably would have been taken down by now if it weren't legit. My comment is probably enough of a caveat.
And again, assuming it is a real quote...
This penchant of hers for fueling GOP talking points and heinous / stupid politics is where criticism of her should have been all along, instead of the class, gender-based, and simply tribal crap.
And that's it's not new or created by Palin
This fuckery has been a staple of the GOP for decades. Just look at Jindal, another idiot performer, a former Rhodes Scholar no less! Or Steele. Or Rush. It goes on and on. Some may be fooled into believing this shit (Have you seen the townhall crazies?), but everyone needs to understand that it's ultimately designed to help out the corporations who reap the benefits from it. Whether that corporation is in insurance or war profiteering, it's all for them.
Yes, I do think people will buy into this and not
because they're crazy or stupid or low-class or any of those things. But because while it's exploitative and twisted, it is close enough to the truth to be extremely powerful to people who are afraid and feel powerless in light of the economy and the catastrophic consequences of not having access to health care.
I sure wouldn't feel comfortable going in front of any panel constituted under the current form of the Obama's health insurance plan. I don't have any faith that it would not have as its mission to deny care wherever possible, or that it wouldn't be packed with industry knobs with vast experience at saying 'fuck off' to its applicants.
The fact is, Palin's death panels already exist, only they're run in the deep recesses of our private health insurers. No transparency and motivated solely (and keenly) by profit. Every dollar that doesn't go to you goes in their pockets. The question is not, are you frightened to think a bunch of bureaucrats are sitting around making decisions about your access to health care? Of course it's reasonable to be frightened of that. That's the true and valid thing. The falsity comes in Republicans implying that they have some better alternative.
This is what Republicans do, and are amazingly good at (I guess it comes for having 30 years to perfect their game); they associate a true or valid point with a twisted conclusion and hammer it home over and over. After a while no one notices that the conclusion they draw is absolutely bizarre or illogical. Obama et al did the same thing during the campaigns, although they seem to have lost the knack in the interim (think fairy tale = racist Clintons!).
I too, wish this had been the type of Palin-focused discussion during the campaigns. All the sneering panty-sniffing nonsense from "progressives" and wild class condescension just made Palin more popular and more credible among a wide swathe of the country which feels they are constantly looked down upon and no one is ever on their side. The missed opportunity -- to counter the usual twisted populist propaganda with real alternatives is a freakin' crime.
You don’t know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you’ll be awake, you’ll be facing me, and you’ll be armed.
-Malcolm Reynolds, “Serenity”
Whiskey Tango FOXTROT, Over?
This:
just boggles the mind.
Close to WHAT truth? Links, please.
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18
I'm not sure what you want me to provide links for ...
is it:
1) that people are frightened and anxious because of the economy and lack of health care?
2) that people do not trust that some panel of people who they do not know and do not know them will act in their best interests when the lives and health of them or their kids are at stake?
3) that people may have reason to fear an approval board put together by Obama and the insurance company execs he's beholden to?
4) that some folks are likely to get rationed right out of health care when Obama finishes up cutting Medicaid and Medicare and they find that troubling? *
* granted, this one was implied, not stated in my comment.
These are all very legitimate fears, esp. for those who've already lost access to care, are in danger of losing access, or have health insurance and can actually afford it as long as they don't need food, clothes or shelter at the same time.
You don’t know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you’ll be awake, you’ll be facing me, and you’ll be armed.
-Malcolm Reynolds, “Serenity”
two words
dartmouth atlas
And "some" thought she was legitimate
Obviously not you VL.
You can't square a circle, and Sarah Palin is from the bat-shit insane wing of the Republican party. That has nothing to do with her gender or her reproductive choices, and everything to do with quotes like this one.
If she wants to "bring it" this way on health care, then that is a topic which is current, relevant and she is no longer just a distraction.
Sorry, I don't fall in love with politicians. I'm not that desperate.
I agree
Ideally, our progressive media and new media can walk and chew gum this time around and note that both of these things are true:
1) The Democrats are selling us out on health care "reform"
2) The GOP talking points about the Democrats' health care "reform" agenda are insane
Unfortunately, "ideally" left without a forwarding address. So only true story #2 has any hope of getting traction.
Palin and medicaid
Is there any legal way to find out if Palin is drawing Medicaid benefits for her special child?
I mean Ronald and Nancy Reagan drew Social Security as long as they lived in the Whitehouse. Which with his pensions from the Motion Pictures actors guild and the pension from California made a tidy little sum for them.
Sort of Republican tradition.
Self exile
it's highly unlikely
first, medicaid and social security are different. everybody who ever paid social security taxes qualifies for social security.
to qualify for medicaid otoh, you have to be really, really poor, as in very low income and owning almost nothing of value. if palin is getting medicaid help, it could only have come about through out-and-out lying or corruption, which is always possible of course.
on another front, it's unlikely that she even needs help with medical bills for trigg. while some down syndrome babies do have expensive and complex medical issues from the very beginning, most of them do not automatically have huge medical expenses just because they were born with an extra chromosome.
medicaid is typically pretty stingy in what it covers, and anybody who's got money enough to get medical care some other way would be foolish to rely on medicaid. it's far more likely that todd palin is able to get primo insurance through his employment in the oil industry.
I don't know
I know several parents of children with disabilities, and all of them get medicaid, even the ones who have more income and better insurance.
If you qualify for disability, you qualify for medicaid(at least here), so all children with disabilities are covered.
Now, as you said, she may not rely on Medicaid, but I'm certain she would qualify for it.
He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave.
- Sir William Drummond
y'know, while she was Governor that'd've been public record, no?
Now? If she's a private citizen, really ... hmm. Dunno, have my doubts whether it'd be a suitable subject for a FOIA. Even supposing you could write one of those damnable things the right way.
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18