Well, I'll give them credit- they are learning. We're all talking about religion this month, and I'd like to hear what people are saying about this sort of "attack plan." The video is slick, and if you flit around the rest of the site, it's rather hard to avoid feeling like all those little red targeting dots aren't really meant for you.
Let's not kid ourselves, ok? You moderate folks can spend all day arguing about who is "closer to Christ" and all that good stuff, but there is only one thing that I need to know in this frontline of the culture war: they want to kill me. I don't want to kill them, I'm more than happy to leave them alone in their homes and churches, even as I will fight to keep this nation one with tolerance in the public space and under secular, Constitutional government. But I have no doubt whatsoever what lies at the end of the road to theocracy in America, should we go there- the death of gays, atheists, nonwhites, intellectuals...hey! That's me!
So please don't tell me to show more respect, or to stop talking about my atheism. You won't find me developing fancy video games and website and music videos drenched in militarism and pogrom. That's what they do. I don't forget it, and neither should you. No theocracy ever came to be without the deaths of large numbers of those not sufficiently 'correct with god.'
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Excellent fascist iconography!
Complete with victimization! ("This generation is under attack!")
OTOH, if you look at the detail, the documented audiences are in Tyler, TX, in the hundreds.
Oh, and the music -- Christianist death metal? -- plays automatically as soon as you visit the site -- nice and loud. Typically obnoxious noise pollution of that public square we keep hearing so much about from these clowns.
No authoritarians were tortured in the writing of this post.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Hmm
I've been meaning to infiltrate a right-wing extremist organization for a while now... I might have to cut the 'fro off, though.
But I still believe
And I will rise up with fists!!
But I still believe
And I will rise up with fists!!
If you wear your underwear on the outside, nobody will care!
So, don't lose the 'fro!
No authoritarians were tortured in the writing of this post.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Blessed are the war makers
Gotta love the name "Teen Mania" to describe this Christianist
youth group. "Teen Well-Adjusted" would have been inaccurate.
www.vastleft.com
this stuff terrifies and
this stuff terrifies and infuriates me--and it never causes that reaction in the liberal Christians or ex-Christians i know.
I fear for this country--people would rather speak against outsiders (terrorists, immigrants, etc) than about the real and demonstrated threats here.
They want to kill me! Why
They want to kill me!
Why is everything about you? Please don't flatter yourself.
Plus you're lying. There's not a scintilla of evidence to suggest this movement condones violence of any kind. Indeed, quite the opposite. Aren't you reality-based and all?
Kids standing up against the depraved idiocy all around them. Standing up for positive social change and a better tomorrow.
Good for them.
Anonymous Texan?
No need to wonder.
"Positive Change" is defined in the eyes of the xtian conservative church goer, when I am seen not going to church. The hate (not quest to convert me), the loathing of me as a "unforgivable sinner" right here in the black heart of small or medium town Texass.
I pity the low level of thought process of anyone who can go to a "xmetal" concert and shake their fist together with a bunch of other like music lovers....while they are persecuted for what? Persecuted for an executed -lethally injected-poor 'lil ole human who was born to make mistakes, from a broken home in a trailer house in Texass getting jeered by others of 'faith' while jokes roll off the tongue at family gatherings.....why does anyone even try to communicate with hypocrits like this?
I'm just like the "coalition of the willing" in Iraq........I give up........
standing up? or shouting down?
that's the question, anon. as for evidence- i suppose you missed a previous post i did on "christians" beating the living shit out of a guy in KS who was teaching science instead of creationism. and that you have never heard of gay bashing, or torch burning. the people who do those things are "christians" in many cases.
militarism isn't just for show. propaganda serves a purpose. i'm sorry that you don't understand that, but i do. and the bottom line is that if the christian religion is supposed to come from a man who preached peace, this sort of use of it is obscene and perverted. i really don't think "jesus" would approve.
The sponsors on the site tell us everything, anonymous
Robertson and Falwell.
Which one of them--I've suppressed it--said on TV, on 9/12, that 9/11 was God's punishment for harboring gay people and the ACLU?
Sounds a lot like "depraved idiocy" to me. In fact, ever since your guy--I assume--stole Florida 2000, I've had about as much "depraved idiocy" shoved down my throat as I can handle.
No authoritarians were tortured in the writing of this post.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Jeebus would.....
I am sure tell us that the music sucked. As to the violence Ol' anonymous, xtian code for coward, is either a shill or an idiot.
Go on over to Orcinus and check out what the xtians really want to do to CD and anyone who doesn't 'Love Jeebus'.
It's called eliminationism Mr. Anonymous Tool.
Gregory K. Davis, How do I
Gregory K. Davis,
How do I respond to this?
Don't worry, I still love you? This is what Jesus would have said.
Please, you need to go back and read what I wrote again. Perhaps your perception will be removed and you will understand what is being said as opposed to what you 'feel'.
I never said idiot or moron or fool regarding a christian and I never would persecute a faith in such a way.......... apparently, quite unlike someone like yourself does to me below.
I challenge you to show where I say those words.
You don't even know what being a christian is.
I am a christian but you are not and you can't even see that because you have bought into the archetypes that will eventually lead to the destruction of our world.
Jesus wasn't a christian, his religion was the JEWISH faith. Why aren't you a Jew? Why do you keep saying you are a christian? Did Jesus make a mistake when he chose a religion?
You are brainwashed by your fake fox news channel and your dope headed Rush, Hannity, Savage, Ingram, Coulter right wing talk radio.
Kill your fellow man, turn your back on the poor, deride people for drugs while partaking of them yourself, ostracize those who aren't in the herd mentality as 'bad'.......is that what being a christian is these days? If so, you can just let me off at the next stop.
You smoked too much pot when you were younger, and that is why you are so conservative and into religious literalism now. Unfortunately, it is also the reason you tried to kill yourself, because you bought into societal bullshit like you have again with this "born-again" stuff. You felt you didn't make the grade. Well, guess what you did. You were and are a wonderful person. You are much smarter than I am. The only difference between us is the exposure that I've received to literature.
Would I say you were an idiot for that? No, because I love you and human love is all there is. There is no religion, it is an oppressive opiate to some while being a wonderful opiate escape from truth/reality to others.
You need to free yourself and understand that monotheism is the cause of human sorrow, not "atheism" or "ungodliness" or whatever it is in your head that causes you to classify someone and JUDGE them based on what you think you know.
If you actually believe that the bible is true, tell me what happened to all the millions of poor souls who lived and died before christ was born? Answer the question.
Are they in hell? Tell me almighty decider of who is and who isn't 'thinking properly'??
You have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about and due to this small flaw in your logic (no facts just rhetorical emotion) the literature of Nag Hammadi Library, the Egyptian Book of the Dead, the Penguin History of the World, etc. will never be read by you. You will not absorb any more info for the rest of your life, but instead will spew the "you are going to hell" crap that I just read, while smugly defining in your own little world what you think the "right/christian/godly" way to be is for those of us who think for ourselves.
How typical of someone who hypocritically thinks they are living a "holy life" , perhaps you like saying you are a christian and then wanting to kill Iraqis, Iranians, and why don't you just make more jokes about 'ragheads' so the rest of the NotSees around you can bomb your fellowman like the good american evangelical christians you are. The key word being "evangelical" which means we can't make enough excuses for the crap in the old testament so we blow that off and preach about our new one.
I've read the bible.
I don't believe you have. I believe you've attended bible classes or study groups or some other sort of pre-biased look at it, without a thought about critical thinking or the big picture.
200 million americans must be right to be christian while 4 billion others (the unwashed, the dirty, ragheads, niggers, spics, europeans, icelandics, gays, jews, {insert wing-nut slur} are most assuredly the people that must be smitten, killed, tortured, enslaved or just shit on any way we can because WASPs are the 'chosen'.
You didn't live 2 thousand years ago and neither did I. Science, did. I am a scientist so I know that recorded human history goes back 10,000 years.
This also means that the world is not flat, although I would have been told I was "going to hell" if I did not believe it was flat less than 515 years ago.
The bible is a collection of stories both real and metaphorical that were accumulated over the past 10,000 years......NOT 2000!!!!
This is why I can tell you the story of noah for example is a rip-off from the character(s) from Babylonian culture and Mesopotamian before that where "Utnapishtim" and his wife saved the planet, with the ying and yang of dual spirituality being represented by two of everything. These stories are told in many different cultures thousands of years before it was translated from arabic by a king in england who never visited the middle east (it was tough to do that back then) and never lived in their culture.
While you're quoting the bible, why not quote Ezekial 23:20-21 or Genesis 29? Does the homo-erotic detail indicate the "Divine Inspiration" of the paradigm in your mind?
If I say something to someone on a website it is the expression of a point of view regarding how people express themselves anonymously so that I can explore their true feelings.
I also visit "freerepublic.com" to see how people who think like you do express themselves. Have you looked me up there? I don't gravitate toward those people because they are mean and want to kill all those who they consider Malthusian collateral damage. You are a freerepublic.com person. I can handle that. This is why I responded to your statements. I know you are a "true-believer" and you mean well. That is why I love you cousin Greg, and why I read your writings as those of someone who has compassion in the heart. Why have you been led away from reality? Why not do what so many of those who condescend as you have done in your ranting below like to say, "GROW UP" and realize that there are no tooth fairy, cloud creatures, mythological demons or the like? I'll pray for you.
ps Why do you care about what I think, you weren't going to come to my wedding anyway.
On May 9, 2006, at 4:41 PM, Gregory K. Davis wrote:
I am very sad.
When I looked up your e-mail address/web-site information I saw your postings on the “Smirking Chimp”.
Steve, the things that you wrote and the language you used were very shocking to me. I never realized
how far you have fallen away from God (let humanity be your God?) and His Son Jesus Christ. I really
didn’t realize how deeply brainwashed you are by the leftmedia and the rantings and ravings of the immature
and lunatic fringe of the left in America today. Your writings and the writings of others on that web-site
appeared to me to be on the level of adolescent teenagers.
I read how you questioned the faith of a believer in Jesus Christ and basically called Christians, reading between the lines, morons, idiots and fools. Thanks, Steve, that makes me, a born-again, Bible believing Christian feel really good.
Steve, because I fear for your life, your sanity and your life after death I must say this: You are the fool!
You are a fool not because I think you are, but because the Bible, which has more wisdom and intelligence
than anything you have ever read or will read says so.
“The fool has said in his heart there is no God…Psalm 14:1. Equating humanity to Jehovah is saying there
is no God. If you truly believe that then………
It hurts my heart very much to tell you this, Steve. It hurts my heart to see that you are headed straight
to hell. (“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” John 14:6) You do not believe in Jesus or worship Him. You will go to hell. Again, not my words or what I want, but the Bible’s words and what it says will happen.
I tell you these things with a heavy heart, but I say them with a clear consience and all the conviction in my heart, soul and mind. And because of this, I am very sad for you.
However, I am joyful and very happy for myself, my wife, my family and all my brothers and sisters in Christ. Because no matter what you or anyone in this world says, we have Christ as our Savior and we know that He will be with us for the rest of our lives and eternity. I have never been happier!
I will tell your Mother and Nanny “hello” for you when I see them. I know, unless you repent and turn back
to Christ, you will never see them again. For that matter, you won’t ever see any loved ones again once we all cross over the Jordan. How very sad for you!
You say, “I AM” in describing how you are. Be very careful equating yourself to God, Steve. “And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.” Exodus 3:14. I AM is God’s name, Steve, it will never be yours. You are just a man, that is all.
I do hope you have a happy and life fulfilling marriage. I will pray for your marriage’s success and for your and your wife’s health an happiness.
I will pray for your salvation, Steve. God have mercy on you!