I applaud your principles of health care reform, Mr. President. I know you're aware that the average American is under an unsustainable burden. I know you've read the letters and emails and heard the accounts told in the town halls of the horrible things our current system imposes on our citizens.
Finally, our health care system is placing an unsustainable burden on taxpayers. When health care costs grow at the rate they have, it puts greater pressure on programs like Medicare and Medicaid. If we do nothing to slow these skyrocketing costs, we will eventually be spending more on Medicare and Medicaid than every other government program combined. Put simply, our health care problem is our deficit problem. Nothing else even comes close. Nothing else. (Applause.)
I don't even have a quarrel with this:
Then there's the problem of rising cost. We spend one and a half times more per person on health care than any other country, but we aren't any healthier for it. This is one of the reasons that insurance premiums have gone up three times faster than wages. It's why so many employers -- especially small businesses -- are forcing their employees to pay more for insurance, or are dropping their coverage entirely. It's why so many aspiring entrepreneurs cannot afford to open a business in the first place, and why American businesses that compete internationally -- like our automakers -- are at a huge disadvantage. And it's why those of us with health insurance are also paying a hidden and growing tax for those without it -- about $1,000 per year that pays for somebody else's emergency room and charitable care.
But I want proof of this claim, and I want it documented.
Second, we've estimated that most of this plan can be paid for by finding savings within the existing health care system, a system that is currently full of waste and abuse. Right now, too much of the hard-earned savings and tax dollars we spend on health care don't make us any healthier. That's not my judgment -- it's the judgment of medical professionals across this country. And this is also true when it comes to Medicare and Medicaid.
There is much in this speech that indicts Medicare in its present form as unsustainable, and since this President has said elsewhere that Medicare and Social Security reform are tasks he feels he must undertake, and since we know the Republican party remains dedicated, despite its mouthings to the contrary, to the destruction of those programs because they are the working example of the US safety net (aka the hated "entitlements" and "liberal giveaways") I want to be assured, sir, that you are not stealthily helping that indefatigable Republican policy, that you will not fall victim to that cause nor let those in their golden years, to borrow your phrase, or looking forward to them, be bereft of that inestimable gift of security arising out of the work of such laudable presidents as had your bully pulpit in the past.
The only thing this plan would eliminate is the hundreds of billions of dollars in waste and fraud, as well as unwarranted subsidies in Medicare that go to insurance companies -- subsidies that do everything to pad their profits but don't improve the care of seniors. And we will also create an independent commission of doctors and medical experts charged with identifying more waste in the years ahead
Show me the money, Mister President.
Hundreds of billions of dollars in waste and fraud in Medicare? What waste? What fraud? Which experts? Experts like these?
Or perhaps esteemed colleagues of yours such as these?

Somebody like the Republican rebuttal speaker last night, the Louisiana heart surgeon who's been sued three times for malpractice? If he were a competent surgeon, even in Louisiana he could make more money than the salary of a Congressmember. Is he then one of those friends among the Republicans on whose judgment about waste and fraud you will depend? I hope not, Mr. President. Because if he is, or if his cohorts among the Republicans furnish you with those experts, then this statement
Now, these steps will ensure that you -- America's seniors -- get the benefits you've been promised. They will ensure that Medicare is there for future generations. And we can use some of the savings to fill the gap in coverage that forces too many seniors to pay thousands of dollars a year out of their own pockets for prescription drugs. (Applause.) That's what this plan will do for you. So don't pay attention to those scary stories about how your benefits will be cut, especially since some of the same folks who are spreading these tall tales have fought against Medicare in the past and just this year supported a budget that would essentially have turned Medicare into a privatized voucher program. That will not happen on my watch. I will protect Medicare.
Last night you delivered that line to a standing ovation in the Joint Session of Congress convened to hear you speak.
I am sure I am not the only American prepared to hold you accountable for that promise.
is so many pretty and meaningless words. In light of what came after it, in light of what you provided as context for it, Mr. President, I want to know why, if your administration is aware of hundreds of billions of dollars in waste and fraud in Medicare as it currently stands, you are not prosecuting the fraudulent claimants.
I want to know why your administration has not undertaken anti-trust prosecutions against monopolies -- you said last night yourself that in many states these monopolies exist.
Your Republican friends contend that if you opened interstate commerce to health insurance companies, as was done with banks and with savings-and-loans and investment banking institutions thanks to the work of such outstanding deregulation champions as Jim Leach, Phil Gramm, and Thomas Bliley, we would all be better off. Insurance companies, such as those U.S. Representative the Honorable Dennis Kucinich last night told us will receive the gift of a bailout under your plan, could then behave just like the banks: they could be "too big to fail" and expect direct gifts of taxpayer dollars to reward their failed business models and improper practices.
Now, because Medicare is such a big part of the health care system, making the program more efficient can help usher in changes in the way we deliver health care that can reduce costs for everybody. We have long known that some places -- like the Intermountain Healthcare in Utah or the Geisinger Health System in rural Pennsylvania -- offer high-quality care at costs below average. So the commission can help encourage the adoption of these common-sense best practices by doctors and medical professionals throughout the system -- everything from reducing hospital infection rates to encouraging better coordination between teams of doctors.
Reducing the waste and inefficiency in Medicare and Medicaid will pay for most of this plan. (Applause.) Now, much of the rest would be paid for with revenues from the very same drug and insurance companies that stand to benefit from tens of millions of new customers. And this reform will charge insurance companies a fee for their most expensive policies, which will encourage them to provide greater value for the money -- an idea which has the support of Democratic and Republican experts. And according to these same experts, this modest change could help hold down the cost of health care for all of us in the long run.
I want to know how Americans will be better served, Mr. President, by a plan built on ephemera.
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Evidence?!
We don't need no stee[n]kin evidence!
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Got a bit of that steenkin' evidence we don't need, lambert,
and it includes video.
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18
Well, that's the right end of the spectrum
With the left end being some sort of "entitlement reform" -- kinder, gentler.
Neither outcome is acceptable.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Experts like these?
No, it's the Dartmouth Atlas and the greedy doctors theory.
Making saisageless sauseges
Obama speech drops the public option and suggested nothing to prevent health insurance companies from raising prices as much as they want. Reformless reform.
KoshemBos
Here
is the answer to your question. Here's your waste and fraud.
My Dad is really worried about that...
He goes on Medicare in two years. He's spent his entire career paying in. He wants to know what cuts? I understand cutting subsidies to private insurers(although it is extremely strange to do that in a policy that gives more subsidies to private insurers), but surely some of that money should go to improving and enhancing what Medicare covers, no? It's worrisome.
Medicare for All is Civil Rights
I suspect
it will be much like what will happen in MA. If you're not aware, you're moving to a global payment system -- budgeted payment per patient for all his needs. Some might call it managed care.
Of course, if targeted savings aren't met, a trigger kicks in to "find" more "savings." I'm guessing that's in the Baucus proposal -- it's a core element of Daschle-Baker-Dole and has been endorsed by the SEIU/CAP/Wal-Mart.
Sarah finger paints a smiley face on a turd
Sarah finger paints a smiley face on a turd.
Lumping Medicare Part D with Medicare is a Republican talking point...thanks Barry...thanks Sarah.
Cost are directly related to how unevenly medical care is distributed and accessed. Distribution and access are a result of employer based insurance...and Obama has stated his first priority is to build on what we have. What we have is a employer based insurance system...thanks Barry...thanks Sarah.
I quarrel with both Barry and Sarah's arithmetic. That should be 2.5 times NOT 1.5 the poor arithmetic of Barry and Sarah results in an answer that's 60% off.
HR3200 needs to be spiked like the vampire bill it is. TARP? FISA? & 'Bama Betrayal.
Obama...2nd worst president ever, but trying for the coveted #1 slot...will Crawford's idiot be undone? Stay tuned as Barry's merry band keeps making excuses for him.
A list of the obvious flaws (the kind of flaws...
... that are so obvious they are hard to see (at least I didn't see them)...
Sarah picks out this one on Medicare savings without cuts:
BDBlue picked out another one: Obama wants to use Teddy's legacy, but works through Baucus.
I'm sure there are many other "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" moments, if he look.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Weiner on KO's show now
saying the GOP has offered no ideas of their own.
Speech kind of a (inkblot) test for members of Congress.
I've compromised -- I think we should have Medicare for all Americans. It's simple and it works.
Need to have some kind of a government option. If the President walks away from that I think he will walk away from enough votes to pass (his plan).
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18
Goodness
My Congressman (Olson R-TX 22) looks like he can't remember if he turned the iron off or not.
At least he's not holding some silly damn sign. Or folding his arms across his chest like an 8 yr old who's not getting her dessert as punishment.
Single Payer is a compromise
The three best systems in the US are VA, Mayo Clinic, and Kaiser Permanente. They are all closed systems, and actually smaller versions of the British National Health Service, i.e. the dreaded "socialized medicine", which happens to be the most efficient method of providing health care.
Single payer avoids the "socialized medicine" label by leaving health providers in the private sector. It is a compromise in its own right.
As for numbers from this President, surely you jest. He still believes that tort reform will save money, apparently ignoring the CBO report that "water is wet" and tort reform is irrelevant to reducing the cost of health care.
A close study would reveal that doctors who own testing companies prescribe more tests. It isn't "defensive medicine". it's old fashioned greed.